SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Keeping TT in 17 was a huge mistake. As a member of both TSW & BBMB Creating 10 threads a day is a bit obsessive and frowned upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Steptide said: I'll say the whole "bills fans are the craziest in the NFL" thing. Yes, we definitely have a passionate fan base. However, every teams fan base is rowdy and drinks too much at games and does dumb things. Especially the smaller market teams. I don’t disagree with this to an extent but I’ve taken fans of other teams with me that have frequented their own teams stadium tailgates and that of other teams and each and every single one of them says they’vd Never experienced one like orchard park. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Fred Jackson is not a good person for a roast. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 49 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: The 2017-2018 Bills "backed into the playoffs" and were lucky to get in. Many teams have gotten into the playoffs and even won the Super Bowls thank to fortunate situations. No one goes back and says "yeah the Patriots won the Super Bowl in 2001 but they were lucky because of the tuck rule." I could rattle off countless scenarios. Could have. Should Have. Would Have. Get over it. You're wrong. I bring this up every chance I get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 A new stadium will NEVER be built in the area of Niagara Falls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: I don’t disagree with this to an extent but I’ve taken fans of other teams with me that have frequented their own teams stadium tailgates and that of other teams and each and every single one of them says they’vd Never experienced one like orchard park. Seattle and Dallas at least at Texas Stadium have nothing to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 The bills fans are smarter than the Front Office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 51 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: OK my point is, it seems like when every some fans talk about the Bills season this year they put as asterisk next to it and preface by says "they only got in because of Andy Dalton." You can find asterisks in nearly every NFL season, but most people don't because it's irrelevant So you are saying we should pretend last year's team was better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 36 minutes ago, T&C said: Bills "mafia" is the dumbest thing I've heard lately... I'll just stick to being a Bills fan. Mafia? lol... Well well well. It's @T&C from the Bills Message Board. I feel like Indigo Montaya finally getting to confront the One Arm Man. You treated me and a lot of other good fans like crap over at BBMB - not really a big fan of you 8 minutes ago, gobills1212 said: So you are saying we should pretend last year's team was better? Better than what? I'm just saying you should say they made the playoffs. Period. 20 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Keeping TT in 17 was a huge mistake. As a member of both TSW & BBMB Creating 10 threads a day is a bit obsessive and frowned upon. THE AUDACITY of a member creating a thread in a message board. 21 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Fred Jackson is not a good person for a roast. This was pretty funny.... even though I do agree he was not a good person to roast! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 42 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: Buffalo Bills fans are probably the most loyal fanbase - perhaps in all of professional sports. With that being said, like most fanbases (or most families) it doesn't mean that everyone always agrees. There are several narratives floating around this message board, and conflicting opinions which arise in conversation when talking Bills. I am curious to know, which narratives that are out there, do you not buy. There are several that I can think of off the top of my head, and I'm sure I'll be able to add more. Here's a few: Doug Whaley was a good GM Sorry but it's hard to make this argument. You can say that Doug was good at finding free agent talent and that he did have some circumstances which made his job tough, but at the end of the day he didn't draft well, never knew how to build a team, and left the Bills in salary cap hell. The 2017-2018 Bills "backed into the playoffs" and were lucky to get in. Many teams have gotten into the playoffs and even won the Super Bowls thank to fortunate situations. No one goes back and says "yeah the Patriots won the Super Bowl in 2001 but they were lucky because of the tuck rule." I could rattle off countless scenarios. Could have. Should Have. Would Have. Get over it. Bill Polian Was Overrated as a GM I was quick to point out how often Polian missed in the draft, but that doesn't mean he was a bad GM. He probably is one of the biggest factors in turning around the Bills in the 80's and is well deserving of a Hall of Fame selection. John Butler Rode Bill Polian's Coat Tails Again, completely untrue. Butler was a great GM who often draft well (sans 2000) and made some excellent free agent acquisitions. The Bills team in 1999 was extremely talented and was perhaps on Special Teams play from making a serious run at the Super Bowl. The Bills Never Should Have Traded Sammy Watkins ln hindsight, this was the right move for the team as it is clear they probably never would have resigned Sammy for the $16M a year he received on the open market. By trading him, they received a 2nd round pick, a competent start for one season, and they still made the playoffs. Those are a few - I'd love to hear yours Doug Whaley's Notable draft picks 2017-*Tre White, Zay Jones, *Dion Dawkins, *Matt Millano, Tanner Vallejo 2016-Reggie Ragland, Adolphus Washington, Jonathan Williams, (Shaq Lawson?) 2015-*Ronald Darby, John Miller, Nick O'Leary 2014-Sammy Watkins(Gonna shut a lot of mouths this year), Preston Brown, Ross Cockrell, Seantrel Henderson 2013-I Credit to Nix *A steal for Draft slot Analysis based on slot and whether they had any success accordingly. GMs draft according to player potential if they reach that potential on another team then the GM was right and the coach couldn't get it done. Whaley had issues as a GM that I can't fully argue against but I don't think he got to pick his coach and I think he finally found his QB and got over-ruled. I truely believe we would have been better sooner with Whaley/Lynn/Whisenhunt/Bradly/Trubisky or Watson, but I am happy with the current situation even if it takes an extra year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, formerlyofCtown said: Doug Whaley's Notable draft picks 2017-*Tre White, Zay Jones, *Dion Dawkins, *Matt Millano, Tanner Vallejo 2016-Reggie Ragland, Adolphus Washington, Jonathan Williams, (Shaq Lawson?) 2015-*Ronald Darby, John Miller, Nick O'Leary 2014-Sammy Watkins(Gonna shut a lot of mouths this year), Preston Brown, Ross Cockrell, Seantrel Henderson 2013-I Credit to Nix *A steal for Draft slot Analysis based on slot and whether they had any success accordingly. GMs draft according to player potential if they reach that potential on another team then the GM was right and the coach couldn't get it done. Whaley had issues as a GM that I can't fully argue against but I don't think he got to pick his coach and I think he finally found his QB and got over-ruled. I truely believe we would have been better sooner with Whaley/Lynn/Whisenhunt/Bradly/Trubisky or Watson, but I am happy with the current situation even if it takes an extra year. LOL You can't possibly give Doug credit for the 2017 draft picks. He did not make those selections. In fact, many reported that he loved Trubisky and wanted to trade up for him. McDermott wasn't having it. The rest of that list is not very good at all. His best selection was either Ron Darby in the 2nd or Preston Brown in the 3rd. These are competent NFL starters, but hardly exceptional picks. The rest of the lineup isn't very good. Again - Doug was not good at drafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: LOL You can't possibly give Doug credit for the 2017 draft picks. He did not make those selections. In fact, many reported that he loved Trubisky and wanted to trade up for him. McDermott wasn't having it. The rest of that list is not very good at all. His best selection was either Ron Darby in the 2nd or Preston Brown in the 3rd. These are competent NFL starters, but hardly exceptional picks. The rest of the lineup isn't very good. Again - Doug was not good at drafting No you don't want to give him credit. Those players were scouted well before the draft. Why do you think the entire staff was eliminated. They were Whaley's guys, unless you think McDermott scouted everyone himself. Beane and McDermott even acknowledge it. Whaley's team did the research and graded the players. And 2016, 2015, 2014 If you want to do it like that 2013-Robert Woods, Kiko Alonso, Marquise Goodwin, Dustin Hopkins I stated the bold above so I already know it was a fact as well as the fact he also wanted Watson. Keep your blinders on Bud wouldn't want your opinion to change that might mean you were wrong. Researching this for a second time has me feeling Nix was a better GM than I had felt before. I learned to acknowledge the fact that player development falls on the coach. Edited March 24, 2018 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 There was just a thread about this one: Trent Edwards was good before "the hit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 That Brad Smith wasn't good enough to start... -Psssshhhht. NONSENSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 My favorite: Ralph Wilson was a "cheap" owner. It's the "flat Earth" of Bills fandom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Bills of Boston said: Too many holes to trade up for a franchise qb follow the money This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: Buffalo Bills fans are probably the most loyal fanbase - perhaps in all of professional sports. With that being said, like most fanbases (or most families) it doesn't mean that everyone always agrees. There are several narratives floating around this message board, and conflicting opinions which arise in conversation when talking Bills. I am curious to know, which narratives that are out there, do you not buy. There are several that I can think of off the top of my head, and I'm sure I'll be able to add more. Here's a few: Doug Whaley was a good GM Sorry but it's hard to make this argument. You can say that Doug was good at finding free agent talent and that he did have some circumstances which made his job tough, but at the end of the day he didn't draft well, never knew how to build a team, and left the Bills in salary cap hell. The 2017-2018 Bills "backed into the playoffs" and were lucky to get in. Many teams have gotten into the playoffs and even won the Super Bowls thank to fortunate situations. No one goes back and says "yeah the Patriots won the Super Bowl in 2001 but they were lucky because of the tuck rule." I could rattle off countless scenarios. Could have. Should Have. Would Have. Get over it. Bill Polian Was Overrated as a GM I was quick to point out how often Polian missed in the draft, but that doesn't mean he was a bad GM. He probably is one of the biggest factors in turning around the Bills in the 80's and is well deserving of a Hall of Fame selection. John Butler Rode Bill Polian's Coat Tails Again, completely untrue. Butler was a great GM who often draft well (sans 2000) and made some excellent free agent acquisitions. The Bills team in 1999 was extremely talented and was perhaps on Special Teams play from making a serious run at the Super Bowl. The Bills Never Should Have Traded Sammy Watkins ln hindsight, this was the right move for the team as it is clear they probably never would have resigned Sammy for the $16M a year he received on the open market. By trading him, they received a 2nd round pick, a competent start for one season, and they still made the playoffs. Those are a few - I'd love to hear yours Your first sentence - Buffalo fans are so in love with themselves it's almost embarrassing. They aren't much better or worse than probably 90% of all fanbases. There are a couple bad sports towns, but most are about the same. 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: Well well well. It's @T&C from the Bills Message Board. I feel like Indigo Montaya finally getting to confront the One Arm Man. You treated me and a lot of other good fans like crap over at BBMB - not really a big fan of you Better than what? I'm just saying you should say they made the playoffs. Period. THE AUDACITY of a member creating a thread in a message board. This was pretty funny.... even though I do agree he was not a good person to roast! 6 fingered man. One armed man is from the Fugitive. Edited March 24, 2018 by klos63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: Better than what? I'm just saying you should say they made the playoffs. Period. Ok. I can't disagree, its a fact. That said, what is the point? I figured out where I fall in your senerio. What is the overarching theme that unites and connects the catagories?. What is my takeaway here? I guess that's what I'm trying to figure out. Like those quizzes that used to be in the teeny bopper mags. At least at the end of a quiz you figured out what type of kisser you were - for example. Was the answer key listed on the old Bills message board or something and that's why I'm lost? I just want to know what kind of kisser I am lol Edited March 24, 2018 by gobills1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, klos63 said: 6 fingered man. One armed man is from the Fugitive. The guy that hired the bomb maker that built the bomb that killed Trudy was also a six fingered man in Monk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 hours ago, zonabb said: That TB12 and BB are not the greatest QB and HC ever. They are. Then why do they need to cheat? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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