What ya'll are getting with AJ

[SouthNYfan]

4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Im not throwing stones. I don’t think these things can be over or understated. They are just facts. 

 

The reason it is pertinent here is because an entertainment business  is potentially giving millions and millions of dollars to this individual who has shown poor judgement very recently. Poor judgement off the field, especially if recurring, doesn’t bode well for the success in the pro sports business. 

 

The money, power and acclaim that comes with graduating into the limelight doesn’t have the same sort of acceleration to maturitation that having to earn a living does. Imo

 

 

 

I don't disagree with you.

My statement was not directed at you, but more general, that people act as if Baker has a recurring issue.

It seems to have been an idiotic mistake.

It should be heavily talked about behind closed doors, privately with him, by ANY team who wishes to draft him.

I think it needs to be looked into and addressed by each individual team, but, unless they feel he isn't being sincere and ready to move forward, then there's no reason to not consider him.

[reddogblitz]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

Yeah someone else pointed that out.  Digging deep.

 

Not for me.  I remember Bart Starr very well.  Especially after he got that sneak on the play Jerry Kramer jumped off sides to win the ice Bowl over my beloved Cowboys (until they were ruined by JJ).

[FappyTheClown]

I don't care about what he did in college.

[Mr. WEO]

57 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said:

There was plenty of noise regarding his disrespecting some players as well - particularly those that weren't up to his standards. 

What follows is what I surmise and do not know, but I think I am entirely on point here:

I think Rosen is an extremely intelligent person, one that comes from a liberal left coast upbringing. It is not above him to challenge and question everything around him and take nothing at face value. 

The QB we just brought in is a Christian, first and foremost. He wears a cross in the middle of his chest; he's supported Donald Trump; and he's come to work for a head coach that speaks passionately about acceptance of a process and thanks God at every press conference. The new DLman - and I know nothing about his religion or politics - is likewise cut from a cloth that sounds perfectly aligned with what McDermott has come to represent.

To me? Rosen and McDermott would never, ever co-exist well. I am not trying to say that McD is anti-Semitic, or only wants Christians in his lockerroom. But part of the faith of truly reborn Christians is about submitting the self to the larger organism, to the larger path. For the life of me, I can't see Josh Rosen in that lockerroom. (Not to mention, he came out as a junior and McD has been quite expressive about staying with seniors. And if you think about it, in talking about being a senior he's talking about commitment.)

 

 

 

 

So that leaves Mayfield (as the only senior of the top 5) as the Bills pick.

 

Sweet!!

[Irv]

Why did AJ drop so far in his draft class?  Projected at 2d round drafted late 5th.  So the OP says the man is full of P&V, but can he play?  I'd also like to note that he looks out of shape in a lot of photos.  He can't pull off the double chin like Big Ben.  Maybe the Buffalo brass just likes the dude with "Mc" in his name. 

 

AJ  NFL Draft Profile

[Tisker A Tasker]

46 minutes ago, RollBillsRoll said:

 

 

This past year, Dalton struggled mightily, leading many to call for a changing of the guard at QB. This would have been a perfect time for AJ to toot his horn or throw Dalton under the bus...instead...“He’s our quarterback…Do you think he wants to have tipped balls that turned into interceptions? Has he worked his whole life for that? … I wish people in this city would back him and go with it. He’s our quarterback, stop making it into something else. Ride with him, trust the team, trust the process and trust what we’re trying to do and be a fan of who’s playing,” McCarron said.

 

 

 

YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSsssssss... PROCESSSSSSSSS

[ColoradoBills]

36 minutes ago, RollBillsRoll said:

 

It was beautiful up there! It is hilarious that you mention the concrete. We had dinner with some of Ithaca's staff before the game. I made the comment that some of our players were truly wondering where all the skyscrapers were and how far we were from brooklyn! He laughed and said "don't feel bad, a couple of our guys were convinced that ya'll would show up barefooted and wearing overalls! 

 

What a great country we live in!

 

LOL

Yes sir!

[RollBillsRoll]

1 minute ago, Badthingsman said:

Why did AJ drop so far in his draft class?  Projected at 2d round drafted late 5th.  So the OP says the man is full of P&V, but can he play?  I'd also like to note that he looks out of shape in a lot of photos.  He can't pull off the double chin like Big Ben.  Maybe the Buffalo brass just likes the dude with "Mc" in his name. 

 

AJ  NFL Draft Profile

The rumor around here was that he didn't do well in the interviews. That he told every team that interviewed him that he felt he was the best quarterback in the draft, and that rubbed him the wrong way. Also, from al.com...

McCarron, the Alabama starter the past three seasons, predicted a first- or second-round selection. That "rubbed (teams) the wrong way," ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on the draft broadcast.

His on-field performance is strong, but individual interviews with teams were also an issue.

Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network said he spoke with general managers and scouts throughout the draft process about McCarron. He said there were some "personality issues," in the evaluation process.

"Questions from evaluators: How much do teammates really like him? How much did he really follow him," Rapoport said live on the NFL Network broadcast.

 

There was a quote, after losing to Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl, where AJ said that he felt some of his teammates had not prepared the right way since they were out of the running for the 3 peat national championship...to some that was AJ throwing teammates under the bus.

 

Also, he chose not to participate in the senior bowl, which was in his hometown, btw, because he felt that after starting for three years and 2 national championships he felt that he had enough tape to be evaluated. That didn't go over very well, even down here...

[Mike in Syracuse]

I've been hearing a lot of praise for McCarron lately.   It'd  be great if we found a diamond but only time will tell.   I have a few questions re: McCarron?

1.  Can he see over the line

2.  Will he throw in the middle of the field

3.  Does he get the ball out on time

4.  Will he throw WR's open.

 

If he can do two or more of these he's probably an upgrade over Tyrod.

[Elite Poster]

Oh boy

[TPS]

1 hour ago, NickelCity said:

 

I'm pretty sure I can confidently say EJ is done as a QB in this league. 

Ha! thanks. Let's hope AJ does not = EJ!

[Fadingpain]

I enjoyed the read; I had forgotten the incident with 'Bama's center during the Notre Dame N.C. game! 

 

People were kind of on AJ at the time, but I got it then and I get it now!  Dude is fired up and wants everyone around him working on a high level.  

That attitude has to be welcome in the Bills locker room!
 

 

[reddogblitz]

One knock I've read of him is he doesn't handle pressure well. That could be a problem here.

[Engelwood]

5 hours ago, dorquemada said:

 

Thanks RollBillsRoll, i'm a huge Bama fan (so much that i brought a wife back from there!) and have been calling for AJM for a long time.  I feel like he has 95% of Baker Mayfield's upside with almost none of his downside, and has the fire that the Bills havent had since the days of Jim Kelly

You can not say that Flutie did not have fire. That is what that little quarterback made his career on. 

[Sky Diver]

My son graduated from UA last year. My only personal experience with AJ was at registration my son's freshman year. He was sitting near us in the cafeteria and he was very accommodating in getting pictures taken with him, even though he was trying to eat lunch. I never heard anything negative about him. By all accounts he's a good guy - with the exception that his wife went to Auburn.

 

Edited March 15, 2018 by Sky Diver

[dorquemada]

25 minutes ago, Engelwood said:

You can not say that Flutie did not have fire. That is what that little quarterback made his career on. 

 

i dont know why i forgot Flutie, and you're correct, that was a critical aspect of his game.  

[Engelwood]

1 minute ago, dorquemada said:

 

i dont know why i forgot Flutie, and you're correct, that was a critical aspect of his game.  

It is hard for me to forget him being from Canada and watching him destroy my home team year after year then he went to play for my NFL team. It was weird to cheer for him after so many years of disappointment at his hands.

[Figster]

1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

One knock I've read of him is he doesn't handle pressure well. That could be a problem here.

media and on the field pressure eh, 

 

McCarron handles pressure very well in my opinion, see's everything, always look down field to make a play.

 

I disagree with that knock red

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

With McCarron and Mayfield or Darnold the Bills will be in great shape at the QB position. I prefer Mayfield.

[ndirish1978]

Thanks OP, appreciate you coming here to post that. 

[reddogblitz]

13 minutes ago, Figster said:

media and on the field pressure eh, 

 

McCarron handles pressure very well in my opinion, see's everything, always look down field to make a play.

 

I disagree with that knock red

 

I meant pocket pressure. 

 

It and an alleged weak arm are the only knocks I've read. Of course it wasn't much of an issue at Alabama  with their roided up monster offensive line.   Well see what he does here on the real world.

Edited March 15, 2018 by reddogblitz

[Fan in San Diego]

Championship!!!!

[Augie]

6 hours ago, jr1 said:

Thanks. I hope you keep posting

 

Yeah, come back and congratulate us when AJ is Super Bowl MVP! 

[Figster]

5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I meant pocket pressure. 

 

It and an alleged weak arm are the only knocks I've read. Of course it wasn't much of an issue at Alabama  with their roided up monster offensive line.   Well see what he does here on the real world.

haha, I know what you meant,

 

A J's a good athlete that extends plays and can throw well on the run in my humble opinion.

 

Don't quote me on this , but McCarrons throws were clocked at 53 MPH If I remember correctly,( Peterman by example 49)

 

 

[BuffAlone]

Not to mention that he has won 3 rings in his college career. None of which he possesses.  He gave one to his Dad, one to his Granddad, and one to an uncle. Good quality dude right there!

[Chandler#81]

Welcome aboard, RBR! Keep posting.

[Figster]

I think If coach Saban were to pop in and read a few pages of this thread he would smile.

 

thanks OP 

[3rdand12]

Yep ! good stuff for sure !

 

[RollBillsRoll]

So here are some more tidbits from AJ's time at Bama. Again, I FULLY understand none of this means a hill of beans today in Buffalo, but it might help illustrate why some fans, especially if they are college football fans, seem so high on AJ. Again just wanting to share some stuff about your new QB that may not be found in his scouting report.  Hope you enjoy

 

 

Here is the aforementioned sequence between AJ and  center Barret Jones in the National Championship game. Bears repeating that the game is way out of hand by this point. Also, Barret Jones and AJ are best friends and roommates, so I'm pretty sure AJ knew he wsan't going to get mauled too badly. I love the passion and attention to detail.

 

 

 

Also, this was before his senior season after he attended the Manning passing academy as an instructor.  LINK

 

2) AJ McCarron is as pro-ready as they come at the position. The leader of the two-time national champions has been given the dreaded "game manager" label, thanks to his direction of Alabama's conservative offensive attack. However, a close examination of his overall game and physical tools suggests to me that he has all of the traits teams covet in a franchise signal-caller. After having a few casual conversations with McCarron at the camp, I believe he is a "team-first" quarterback obsessed with capturing rings rather than compiling impressive statistics. He repeatedly discussed doing "whatever it takes" to win as his primary responsibility with the Crimson Tide. He also cited the importance of preparation and work ethic as keys to keeping his team in contention for future championships. As a former scout, I must say that McCarron's words reflect the kind of leadership potential teams are looking for.

From a physical standpoint, McCarron also displayed the tools to be a franchise quarterback at the next level, showing off polished footwork and mechanics as a pocket passer in drills. Most importantly, McCarron demonstrated superb arm strength, rifling balls to all areas of the field with excellent velocity and zip. Additionally, he showed better-than-anticipated range and touch on deep balls, consistently hitting receivers in stride on vertical routes. One of the things I was concerned about after watching him on tape was whether he could thrive in a vertical passing game, but his throwing exhibition at camp dispelled that worry. Of course, going through a series of workouts in shorts and shirts isn't comparable to playing in a game, but he still certainly provided a glimpse of the natural talent that could make him a top prospect in the 2014 NFL Draft.

 

Here is another article from his senior year talking about Mcarron as an obvious Heisman contender. 

 

 The last time that the Alabama quarterback threw an interception, it was a simpler time: Eli Manning only had one ring, LeBron James still had no rings, there was an NBA work stoppage, not an NHL lockout, Dan Marino still held the single-season NFL passing record and Tim Tebow was still a starting quarterback. McCarron's last interception came Nov. 12, 2012 against Mississippi State. Since then, Alabama won a National Championship, McCarron lost his classic Alabama-hairdo, and he's become a legit Heisman contender and NFL draft prospect. ... team trusts him more this year, as well. It's not an offense completely built around the running game, and because of that, McCarron has been able to show off his smarts, his accuracy and his arm. McCarron is one of the smartest QBs in the nation too. He's adept at reading defenses and makes as many audibles at the line as any of the top NCAA signal callers. ..... McCarron's game is reminiscent of Eli Manning especially. .... McCarron is fleeter of foot than either Manning brother, though he's obviously less refined than Eli or Peyton Manning. The biggest question about McCarron is why no one is talking about him. He's completing 68.9 percent of his passes, he has 1684 yards through eight games, 18 touchdowns, zero interceptions and he's led the most famous college football program in the nation to an undefeated record. It's because the "Alabama quarterback" comes with a reputation. Everyone concentrates on the defense, Nick Saban and the history attached to the program, and the team is so talented it can be difficult to single out individual players. But McCarron should be singled out. He has definite NFL tools. He's the most polished quarterback the Crimson Tide has had since at least Croyle, though McCarron looks considerably better than the former Kansas City Chiefs' draft pick. .... McCarron has a short, compact release, he throws on the run very well, he's not a scrambler, but he's mobile and comfortable in the pocket and his arm strength and deep accuracy is improving by the week..... it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities to see McCarron go home with the Heisman, leave for the NFL and get drafted in the first round. ...they'll be riding on McCarron's talented shoulder more than anyone will give him credit for.
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