stevestojan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Apologies if this has already been posted. Start at the 5:58 mark or so for the question and answer. Mods, I don’t follow the board as much as I used to, so if this is already a huge topic here I’d appreciate a slap on the wrist. TL:DR, Tyrod Taylor is very accurate according to Tyrod Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Murray Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Well he is the all time leading Bills passer for completion percentage, so that says something about accuracy (and about previous Bills QBs). Now throws not attempted is another theoretical stat altogether. Generally, I wish everyone would stop being so polorized regarding Taylor. He is a slightly above average starter, and has had a good cap number the past couple years. He isn’t a top 10 QB in the league. It’s pretty straight forward. People treat it like the Devine mystery or something where you have crusaders and atheists both willing to die for their beliefs. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bill Murray said: Well he is the all time leading Bills passer for completion percentage, so that says something about accuracy (and about previous Bills QBs). Now throws not attempted is another theoretical stat altogether. Generally, I wish everyone would stop being so polorized regarding Taylor. He is a slightly above average starter, and has had a good cap number the past couple years. He isn’t a top 10 QB in the league. It’s pretty straight forward. People treat it like the Devine mystery or something where you have crusaders and atheists both willing to die for their beliefs. The reason why he's polarizing is because games like Jacksonville. It was an unbelievably frustrating game that was likely lost because of poor QB play. Tyrod has never been very effective against good defenses that keep him in the pocket. He has a pretty stellar track record of not being able to beat a good defense. He also has a stellar track record of not being able to bring his team back from behind. I like Tyrod, but I don't think unreasonable to think that Bills can't find a QB that can be more productive. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Tyrod loves some Tyrod 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Why not talk about where he wants to improve on his weaknesses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bill Murray said: Well he is the all time leading Bills passer for completion percentage, so that says something about accuracy (and about previous Bills QBs). Now throws not attempted is another theoretical stat altogether. Generally, I wish everyone would stop being so polorized regarding Taylor. He is a slightly above average starter, and has had a good cap number the past couple years. He isn’t a top 10 QB in the league. It’s pretty straight forward. People treat it like the Devine mystery or something where you have crusaders and atheists both willing to die for their beliefs. I dunnno, I think it is easy to understand. Tyrod is hot and cold. Some games he plays very well, some games he is terrible. That leads to controversy. Tyrod is also a statistical wonder. But his stats happen to mislead because of the way they are tabulated. Taking sacks for example doesn't hurt your passer rating. Completing passes when your team is hopelessly behind ("garbage time") doesn't hurt your passer rating. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Tyrod loves some Tyrod 17 minutes ago, Another Fan said: Why not talk about where he wants to improve on his weaknesses? WTF do you guys want? You don't like Tyrod - you want him gone -ideally that means someone will trade for him - so you want him to go on record publically talking up his weaknesses and sounding like he thinks he sucks? Think of it as a little job interview for him, you know, they ask you "what are your weaknesses?" and you say something you phrase as a weakness that's really considered a strength Edited February 8, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worstcaseontario Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I like tyrod i really do but hes a Qb thatll get you 9 wins max in a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 minute ago, BadLandsMeanie said: I dunnno, I think it is easy to understand. Tyrod is hot and cold. Some games he plays very well, some games he is terrible. That leads to controversy. Tyrod is also a statistical wonder. But his stats happen to mislead because of the way they are tabulated. Taking sacks for example doesn't hurt your passer rating. Completing passes when your team is hopelessly behind ("garbage time") doesn't hurt your passer rating. I agree that Tyrod plays very well sometimes, and very badly other times. This whole year was also a notch or two towards the worse. That said, there's a better word for "garbage time": it's called "an unsuccessful comeback". See: 3 January 1993. If there were a certain number of points per remaining time a team could be behind and never be able to come back, the game should just forfeit at that juncture. But there isn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackington Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: I dunnno, I think it is easy to understand. Tyrod is hot and cold. Some games he plays very well, some games he is terrible. That leads to controversy. Tyrod is also a statistical wonder. But his stats happen to mislead because of the way they are tabulated. Taking sacks for example doesn't hurt your passer rating. Completing passes when your team is hopelessly behind ("garbage time") doesn't hurt your passer rating. Then use QBR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, Bill Murray said: Well he is the all time leading Bills passer for completion percentage, so that says something about accuracy (and about previous Bills QBs). Now throws not attempted is another theoretical stat altogether. Generally, I wish everyone would stop being so polorized regarding Taylor. He is a slightly above average starter, and has had a good cap number the past couple years. He isn’t a top 10 QB in the league. It’s pretty straight forward. People treat it like the Devine mystery or something where you have crusaders and atheists both willing to die for their beliefs. What makes you believe he’s slightly above average? I have him in 18-24 best range...slightly to well below average. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Guys, he takes pride in his job. Athletes need to have confidence. And he's speaking publicly. I'm not going to on some stupid panel like that and talk about how I'm a dyslexic lawyer. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Tyrod was also telling everyone to vote him to the Pro Bowl this season. In a season he was benched for a 5th round rookie no less. He has a much higher opinion of himself than anyone else that watches him play. It's part of the reason he will never get better or try throws that real QBs make.......he already believes he is a top 5 QB in the league. The guy has no sense of reality. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I just want to continue being better looking and more wealthy than George Clooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Completion percentage equals passes caught. Accuracy equals ball placement. Glad TT has a decent stat in the former, but he could be a helluva better in the latter. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 When most of your throws are 3 yard check downs to the HB, it's easy to be accurate. Can't wait for this guy to be gone so we don't have to read any more Tyrod threads again. He's like Rasputin. You can't get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: The reason why he's polarizing is because games like Jacksonville. It was an unbelievably frustrating game that was likely lost because of poor QB play. Tyrod has never been very effective against good defenses that keep him in the pocket. He has a pretty stellar track record of not being able to beat a good defense. He also has a stellar track record of not being able to bring his team back from behind. I like Tyrod, but I don't think unreasonable to think that Bills can't find a QB that can be more productive. He also has a good track record of beating the teams we should beat. There are very few games against a bad team where we lose with him, which I think might be why so many people like him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: When most of your throws are 3 yard check downs to the HB, it's easy to be accurate. Can't wait for this guy to be gone so we don't have to read any more Tyrod threads again. He's like Rasputin. You can't get rid of him. EJ begs to differ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 He is not very accurate. His completion percentage is artificially high. I wouldn't say he is super inaccurate, but not accurate either. He seemed to throw over the heads of all intermediate or deep routes, but hit short and check downs alright. He's just so afraid to throw the ball into coverage, even when there are clear windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 46 minutes ago, MJS said: He is not very accurate. His completion percentage is artificially high. I wouldn't say he is super inaccurate, but not accurate either. He seemed to throw over the heads of all intermediate or deep routes, but hit short and check downs alright. He's just so afraid to throw the ball into coverage, even when there are clear windows. Taylor’s % was good for 16th in the league this year...and tbh I’ve never found him a particularly accurate passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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