YoloinOhio Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You're really gonna die on this hill, alone and in the rain? Edited February 7, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That the dude from Broadchurch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Cmdjr85 said: Lol your all salty because mcdaniels is staying in new england and that is bad news for you. Thats the only explanation for a 15 page thread ob a topic that has nothing to do with the bills. It’s you’re not your. Douche move. The Patriot way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 25 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: And the point of that is? Who cares what Tony Dungy thingks? You think he has any more info than you, me or anyone else? Trust me, he doesn't. Since when does Tony know what NE offered him in those meetings? Since when does Tony know what is best for McDaniels career? Since when does Tony know what is best for McDaniels family? You think McDaniels kids give 2 craps what Tony thinks? Lol Your opinion is uninformed and you are taking the most ludicrous and holier-than-thou stand I've seen on here for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Didn't every team other than Cleveland win at least 2 games this year? Way to set the bar high! 2018 is a new season, and playing buffalo = 2 easy wins every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Commsvet11 said: Bypassing the Rooney rule that way, you would be correct, so long as that language is written in the contract, probably part of the sweetening of his contract, mentioned earlier. Now what is convenient is this happens just right before he is to start HC for the colts, I mean could the Pats organization could have renegotiated his contract anytime, so why did they wait until the last minute? That I can't answer. Only one truly knows that is Kraft. My GUESS is BB told him late that his end date was X.. and Kraft wanted a successor in place to keep the organization going like it is. (I feel he is trying to make it like the Steelers where they are always good with few years of truly bad) 4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: they were so intelligent and krafty that they traded JimmG for pennies on the dollar!!! How dumb was that??!!! Not every decision going be awesome! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I believe Pagano is still available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 No one has to honor a verbal commitment. But most men with honor do. I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that there was a verbal commitment made by McDaniels to the Colts. Unfortunately for the Colts(or fortunately), I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that McDaniels is a douchebag with very little honor. He was a known to be douchy at Denver, douchy at St. Louis and he comes off as douchy at NE. Douchebagery is not a great quality for a head coach but you can get away with it as an OC. Belichek is a dick but not a douchebag. Big difference in my book. McDaniels as head coach of NE is good for the Bills and can't come soon enough. This will go down as another decision that will lead to the downfall of the Patriot dynasty. I'm confident of it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said: No one has to honor a verbal commitment. But most men with honor do. I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that there was a verbal commitment made by McDaniels to the Colts. Unfortunately for the Colts(or fortunately), I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that McDaniels is a douchebag with very little honor. He was a known to be douchy at Denver, douchy at St. Louis and he comes off as douchy at NE. Douchebagery is not a great quality for a head coach but you can get away with it as an OC. Belichek is a dick but not a douchebag. Big difference in my book. McDaniels as head coach of NE is good for the Bills and can't come soon enough. This will go down as another decision that will lead to the downfall of the Patriot dynasty. I'm confident of it. Yep. nothing to show he’s a good HC and Brady will either be gone, on his way out, or suspended for his ARod/Benjamin Button crap that he’s taking Edited February 8, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: That I can't answer. Only one truly knows that is Kraft. My GUESS is BB told him late that his end date was X.. and Kraft wanted a successor in place to keep the organization going like it is. (I feel he is trying to make it like the Steelers where they are always good with few years of truly bad) All of this transpired after McDaniels committed to Indy, hired coaches, and then reneged? Seems sudden. After all, it was pretty much known since the regular season ended that McDaniels was going to be hired by the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, May Day 10 said: i wonder if Belichick staying another year or 2 hinged on Kraft being able to give McDaniels what he wanted. BB was fairly close to the vest until after the Superbowl, then told Kraft to keep his OC, and he will remain (and likely pass the steering wheel off for 2019 or 2020)... which is what caused the late push Good questions. Belicheck had said in several news outlets at the time of the "Patriots rift" article that he would be back. I got nothing, but I'll speculate like the rest of us. Suppose BB wants to hang up his cleats after notching one more Superbowl win. He's keeping it close, but that's one reason he's doing stuff he hasn't before like helping his assistants prep for HC interviews. Facing the Eagles backup QB, the guy that wasn't good enough for them 3 years ago, he has to feel fairly good about their chances. One more championship, then he'll leave on top of his game. Their offense sets records. Only their defense gets shredded, and it isn't enough. So they fall short, and Belichick doesn't want to leave on that note. He's perfectly happy for Patricia to move on to Detroit. In fact, if Patricia weren't quitting, he might get fired. The D needs to get fixed, and fixed now. Belichick wants to give it the lions share of his 2018 attention. Only there's a problem .... he's also losing his right-hand OC. So he goes to Kraft and says "make it worth his while to stay, so I can focus on D and bring you the championship you deserved." Edited February 8, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yep. nothing to show he’s a good HC and Brady will either be gone, on his way out, or suspended for his ARod/Benjamin Button crap that he’s taking If Luck is healthy, he might be better off with the crazy owner. Because he’s probably not going to get Brady while Brady is still worth having. As many people have been saying, don’t underestimate the power of family in these decisions. I get the honor part, but I hope I always do the best thing for the family. Now, I’d have to figure that out on the front end first........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 47 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Your opinion is uninformed and you are taking the most ludicrous and holier-than-thou stand I've seen on here for a while. Lmao, yup. And I guess yours is so informed lol. What a weird statement, but all good. It’s a total pet peeve of mine when people expect players or coaches to bend to the will of the very owners who cast them aside and break their deals the moment they don’t feel they want to honor the contract anymore. NE made a better offer, that’s the Colts problem not McDaniels. This has actually been the most enjoyable thread in a while here for me at least. I’m slammed busy and keep getting sucked into it ha. Doesnt bother me others want to se it differently, but this is actually been a good thread. Mostly discussable responses even if on different sides and I harbor no ill will even though some want to slander me personally for seeing it differently, but I sure am not gonna change my stance on it because people want to jab at me lmao But I’m with everyone hating McDaniels, can’t stand him. Just don’t think making a better choice for his life was something he did wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 27 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said: No one has to honor a verbal commitment. But most men with honor do. I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that there was a verbal commitment made by McDaniels to the Colts. Unfortunately for the Colts(or fortunately), I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that McDaniels is a douchebag with very little honor. He was a known to be douchy at Denver, douchy at St. Louis and he comes off as douchy at NE. Douchebagery is not a great quality for a head coach but you can get away with it as an OC. Belichek is a dick but not a douchebag. Big difference in my book. McDaniels as head coach of NE is good for the Bills and can't come soon enough. This will go down as another decision that will lead to the downfall of the Patriot dynasty. I'm confident of it. Agree and withal the douche talk about McDaniels.................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commsvet11 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 What’s interesting to me Is when B.B. retires, New England loses a Head Coach AND General Manager correct? New England will have to find a GM who wants McDaniels to be head coach, that might cause limitations to the search, unless McDaniels becomes coach and GM, that’s a lot of confidence in one man. If McDaniels did this for his family I have a feeling he will have plenty of time to spend with them soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 How do the Colts sign assistants without signing the HC? Irsay is a clown. That franchise is in a blender. Total crap show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 6 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Wow do a LITTLE research. The Rooney rule does not apply if their is a succession plan in place it is only in search for a new hire. So what you're saying is that Kraft* would rather pay McDaniels* enough money to make him renege on an employment commitment to a company AND renege on commitments he made to assistant coaches, some of which were already hired by Indy, so the Pats* could avoid hiring a minority head coach? I can see that. Totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Cmdjr85 said: 2018 is a new season, and playing buffalo = 2 easy wins every year Too bad your team couldn't beat a backup QB when it mattered 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: You're really gonna die on this hill, alone and in the rain? He's not the only person with the particular view. He changed his mind and did what was best for his family and himself. That's his prerogative. The contract was not signed. The Colts have every right to be upset. Their irritation is understandable and warranted. But let's not act as if with his change of mind the organization is going to be damaged. In the hiring process the organization puts a list together of good candidates. The Colts have the option of following their list or expanding their search. It's obvious that McDaniels was ambivalent about taking the change. So the Colts are fortunate that he withdraw before even more time went by or even worse hiring a coach who wasn't happy with not only with this coaching job but also with his family situation in this new location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 31 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said: What’s interesting to me Is when B.B. retires, New England loses a Head Coach AND General Manager correct? New England will have to find a GM who wants McDaniels to be head coach, that might cause limitations to the search, unless McDaniels becomes coach and GM, that’s a lot of confidence in one man. If McDaniels did this for his family I have a feeling he will have plenty of time to spend with them soon. Bellyache will be the GM. Or Kraft diciates it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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