Nihilarian Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: Well, after Irsay insinuated that Luck’s injury was in his head, maybe Luck wants out of there. If that is the case then great then I'm open for a trade. The Colts do own the #3 pick and could easily go after Rosen or Darnold while getting extra picks for Luck. Think about the past situation if you are Andrew Luck. You want to win but are surrounded by morons who depend on you playing great to keep their jobs. Meanwhile, they don't have the mentality to build a proper team around you. The Colts were last in the NFL in pass blocking for 2016 and while they got slightly better in 2017 they were the very worst run blocking team last year. Plus, they have had a bad defense for years. Without Luck playing, with no run game, they were just as bad on offense as they have been on defense and the result was 4-12. Tough to hide the incompetence without Luck carrying the team. The Colts have a new GM in Chris Ballard after finally firing GM Ryan Grigson who should have been fired years ago. Ballard is a rookie GM after being director of player personnel for the Chiefs. Luck could still be pissed at Jim Irsay allowing Pagano and Grigson to stay so long and wants off that team. There was a time when John Elway refused to play for the Colts because of Jim's father Robert Irsay. The trouble is I think it would take more ammunition than the Bills currently have to secure Luck and even if they did somehow manage to get him to Buffalo It would kill the resources to properly build a better team around Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Indy wouldn’t go for a straight up Luck-Glenn trade but Glenn + number 22 + a 2018 second may get the job done. https://www.nflchatter.com/2018/01/29/buffalo-bills-set-for-big-moves-in-2018-trade-period/ It would have to be conditional 2019 picks, who knows if he can play and survive being driven into the turf. His remaining contract is fine if he can play. Edited February 2, 2018 by ALF added info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 12 hours ago, SaviorPeterman said: It's not happening and never even considered based on what I know. Also do you think McDaniels would leave NE for a team without a franchise QB? He's not stupid especially after what happened in Denver with Tebowmania. May be there is a trade in place for Tom Brady to Indianapolis and the Patriots get the draft pick!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Patrick_Duffy said: That would be awesome. One would think he should be healthy enough to go for this upcoming season. If that's the case that would be great. You know Indy will want an arm and leg for him, so we will see. Going to be very interesting how the QB situation plays out this off season. Looking forward to it. There is no evidence of this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 According to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, Colts quarterback Andrew Luck is about to start throwing, and has gone to Los Angeles to work with passing gurus Tom House and Adam Dedeaux. While adding the noted tutors (they work with some guy named Tom Brady, among others) is interesting, the fact Luck is close to throwing again is huge for the Colts, and suggests his rehab from last year’s shoulder injury is going well and that he won’t need another surgery. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/30/andrew-luck-about-to-start-throwing-with-new-mentors/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, ALF said: According to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, Colts quarterback Andrew Luck is about to start throwing, and has gone to Los Angeles to work with passing gurus Tom House and Adam Dedeaux. While adding the noted tutors (they work with some guy named Tom Brady, among others) is interesting, the fact Luck is close to throwing again is huge for the Colts, and suggests his rehab from last year’s shoulder injury is going well and that he won’t need another surgery. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/30/andrew-luck-about-to-start-throwing-with-new-mentors/ Oh good, he's ready to begin doing something that is intergal a qb's job. Just to begin throwing. This really gives me pause. How long has it been since he's been able to make a throw?? Let alone an NFL throw? How do we know he will ever be able to be himself again? Too much risk for what the Colts will want to part with Luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: you don't know jack **** now that that is said. I don't know jack **** either and a rumor like this will get a lot of attention, likely remains a rumor. but holy hell, wouldn't that be something if he did get traded to buffalo. they could bolster the defense this next draft and superbowl, here we come! Isn't the mistakes the Colts made was not building up on offence and getting Luck killed? I think the defense wouldn't be a priority going into next season. Edited February 2, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, HamSandwhich said: How do we know he will ever be able to be himself again? Too much risk for what the Colts will want to part with Luck. Especially when "himself" topped out in the exact same place where Blake Bortles just topped out. And Bortles did a far better job in that circumstance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 7 hours ago, FearLess Price said: Yeah bro. Like they consulted CAR on KBs knee issues.... Shaq Lawsons got a shoulder injury?? Great lets sign him with our 1st round pick. Benjamin has an injured knee? Great lets trade for him Sammys foot doesnt need surgery..... weeks later Sammy to IR in a move that eventually leads to his trade.. Not too confident in this med staff. Agree our medical staff seems to miss a lot like Woods stinger that is a disc issue so bad he has to retire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Xwnyer said: Agree our medical staff seems to miss a lot like Woods stinger that is a disc issue so bad he has to retire That is scary , for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 19 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Especially when "himself" topped out in the exact same place where Blake Bortles just topped out. And Bortles did a far better job in that circumstance. Are you implying that Blake Bortles was equivalent to a healthy, pre injury, Andrew luck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Are you implying that Blake Bortles was equivalent to a healthy, pre injury, Andrew luck? In their best seasons, they both won a terrible division, a playoff home game, a solid road playoff and lost at NE. Same. Exact. Results. I'm not saying Bortles is equal, but given the cap hits and the rosters they enable, equivalent may be a good word. Hailing Luck as a savior seven years into a career in which he has saved exactly bupkus, trading 35 picks for him and spending 40% of your cap is NOT too bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: In their best seasons, they both won a terrible division, a playoff home game, a solid road playoff and lost at NE. Same. Exact. Results. I'm not saying Bortles is equal, but given the cap hits and the rosters they enable, equivalent may be a good word. Hailing Luck as a savior seven years into a career in which he has saved exactly bupkus, trading 35 picks for him and spending 40% of your cap is NOT too bright. Jacksonville has the best D in the league. In Luck's tenure at the Colts the D has uniformly stunk. Comparing Luck to Bortles based on their team records vs. what they actualy do as QB is like comparing a Ferrari to a VW Beetle. IF Luck is available and IF after exhaustive medical testing it is determined he's healthy the Bills would be insane to not make the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 If this happens I will line my house with McBeane posters and just fap away all day. Find a way to bring Kuechly here as well and I might die from overfapping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: In their best seasons, they both won a terrible division, a playoff home game, a solid road playoff and lost at NE. Same. Exact. Results. I'm not saying Bortles is equal, but given the cap hits and the rosters they enable, equivalent may be a good word. Hailing Luck as a savior seven years into a career in which he has saved exactly bupkus, trading 35 picks for him and spending 40% of your cap is NOT too bright. Tent dilfer and Brad Johnson won Superbowls. By your logic they topped out higher than guys like Dan Marino and Jim Kelly. I'm not hailing luck as a savior, and I'm not okay with sending this farm to Indy to get him. I'm saying your statement of him and bortles being equivalent since they both "made it to AFC championship and lost to NE" (paraphrase) is absurd. Especially since you are referring to pre-injury luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 3 hours ago, ganesh said: May be there is a trade in place for Tom Brady to Indianapolis and the Patriots get the draft pick!!!! This could have been remotely possible, had the Pats not traded away Jimmy G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 6 hours ago, MJS said: That's what a lot of people thought about Manning and his neck injury. He went on to two Superbowls, winning one. Guys can heal. And I'm certainly not saying they can't or that Luck won't be his original self of football splendor. But what I am saying is that to me, IMHO, it is MORE of a risk to give up so much to get a guy you know for a fact is: 1. 29 years old 2. serious injury to throwing shoulder. When you can essentially take the same risk on a guy who you BELIEVE has similar potential but also know for a fact: 1. is 22 years old 2. is not injured and has unbelievable capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Not a fan. Luck's done zip so far and never lived up to the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 So far in this thread some have claimed that luck is worthless, peterman and bortles are better than luck. Good stuff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Not a fan. Luck's done zip so far and never lived up to the hype. Dude's a bust on a bum shoulder in 2016, he threw for 4200 yards and 31 tds. Remember when he threw for 4700 yards and 40 tds? I remember telling myself "I never want that bum on my team" I hated his AFC championship run in 2014. We can do so much better than Andrew Luck Edited February 2, 2018 by BillsFan2313 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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