nucci Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 On 1/31/2018 at 6:36 AM, baskingridgebillsfan said: I like Bradford. When healthy he is very good. I have no issue rolling the dice with him. Except that he's rarely healthy and has bad knees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 41 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: If a team trades any draft pick for Tyrod Taylor I will eat my shoe. He will need to be released, a team will then sign him for 5 or 6 mil per year. We have you on record for shoe eating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 guys with worse career winning percentages than Tyrod aren't an "upgrade" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Excellent another post wanting Glassman on our team.....are people not aware of this guy??? really??? its hard enough for him to stay on the football for a quarter of a season but you want to roll the dice with him with our offensive line?? No....please no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) On 1/31/2018 at 4:49 AM, DKBills25 said: Die hard fan, just made this account But I think this would be the best move for us I think cousins will demand too much money and even thou he can throw well I don’t think he would get us in the right direction we need to draft our future (mayfield,Jackson) and sigh Bradford to help mold the rook. basically what the chiefs did. Bradford IMO we can get cheap and will give us the best chance to win I would also love to see us maybe trade for a young starter (most likely not gonna happen) but maybe Luck,Dalton or Winston I see that you are "all in" for doing just what the Bills have been doing for the last 2 decades: putter about aimlessly for a QB like a blind squirrel seeking a nut. Sorry to be rough on you, but if you've been reading a while (recommended before posting), you will know this sort of post is all too common, repeated over and over and over again. So it's not fair, but you get about a dozen posts worth of parody and frustration. (don't take it personal, just divide it by 12 for your dose) "Hell, no, we can't make a play for the best FA, Cousins, that rarely available potential franchise guy, he would cost too much. Let's sign a 4th team retread like Bradford with major flaws and health risks and tell the fans he gives us the best chance to win, even though he's cheap because his leg is held on with bailing wire and duct tape and he has a 2 season past history of going out before the first 3 games. Oh, and trading up to the top of the draft where the probabilities are highest would cost too much too, so let's settle for 3 or 4th or 5th best QB - especially let's go draft another running back who plays QB** like Jackson to replace our running back who plays QB. Oh, then while we're at it, let's trade for another team's franchise QB who is only signed through 2018 so we need to give up draft picks AND then sign the guy to a big honkin' deal or watch those draft picks go for naught. What the Chiefs did was nothing like this. They traded 2 picks, 2nd and 3rd round for a QB with a couple of good years under his belt and no injury history who was available because his team mistakenly thought they had someone better, then the Chiefs gave him a 4 year, $68M contract extension. And they got good performance out of him for years, but then they looked to upgrade, watched their guy for a couple years, decided he was the one, and did what they had to do to get him. They had a plan. I want the Bills to have a plan. And what you're describing is not a plan, it's firing buckshot at a target and hoping something fits. You want Mayfield? Some think he's the best shot. Great. Let's go All In to get Mayfield. And then let's sign a vet to mentor him, the sturdiest, toughest boot-leather I will not get hurt, and if I do get hurt I will be available, vet we can find. "We can get him Cheap" should NOT be on the menu. **draft evaluation of Jackson: "Jackson needs to continue to improve his accuracy as a passer. That's the bottom line. Right now, he's a phenomenal college quarterback mostly due to his running skills and athleticism." Right, let's run a QB out of town who we complain about because his accuracy as a passer and ability to go through progressions don't match his running skills and athleticism, so that we can use a high draft pick on another guy with that scouting report. 14 minutes ago, jr1 said: guys with worse career winning percentages than Tyrod aren't an "upgrade" Wins are not a QB stat, and Bradford has played on some poor teams. That's not where the "smart money" looks. That said, Bradford has never shown himself to be "all world" as a QB, and his knee is made of glass. There could be jokes about a mafioso taking a discount to kneecap Bradford. 28 minutes ago, nucci said: Except that he's rarely healthy and has bad knees "Other than That, Mrs Lincoln, How did you like the Play?" Edited February 9, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, JPP said: Excellent another post wanting Glassman on our team.....are people not aware of this guy??? really??? its hard enough for him to stay on the football for a quarter of a season but you want to roll the dice with him with our offensive line?? No....please no! At least with Bradford you have a QB that can put up passing numbers and win games. Yea he has a history of being injured but at least their is a chance. With Taylor their is no chance, after watching the offensive passing numbers put up in the playoffs and the Super Bowl their is no way Taylor would even have a chance in a game like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 They are not trading Tyrod. Nobody is paying to take a guy they know will be available as an FA in a month. The Bills are not paying him a $6 million rostee bonus next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: I suspect Bradford is our QB week1. My faith in McBeane, tarnished by the "bench Tyrod for NotreadyNate" episode, will plummet if Bradford is on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I like Bradford as long as he comes on a cap friendly number with not a lot guaranteed. If he wants big money like these other guys are getting no way-too risky with his injury history. But if its like a 12-15 million bridge type deal that is cap friendly with not a lot of dead money or an out clause I support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I see that you are "all in" for doing just what the Bills have been doing for the last 2 decades: putter about aimlessly for a QB like a blind squirrel seeking a nut. Sorry to be rough on you, but if you've been reading a while (recommended before posting), you will know this sort of post is all too common, repeated over and over and over again. So it's not fair, but you get about a dozen posts worth of parody and frustration. (don't take it personal, just divide it by 12 for your dose) "Hell, no, we can't make a play for the best FA, Cousins, that rarely available potential franchise guy, he would cost too much. Let's sign a 4th team retread like Bradford with major flaws and health risks and tell the fans he gives us the best chance to win, even though he's cheap because his leg is held on with bailing wire and duct tape and he has a 2 season past history of going out before the first 3 games. Oh, and trading up to the top of the draft where the probabilities are highest would cost too much too, so let's settle for 3 or 4th or 5th best QB - especially let's go draft another running back who plays QB** like Jackson to replace our running back who plays QB. Oh, then while we're at it, let's trade for another team's franchise QB who is only signed through 2018 so we need to give up draft picks AND then sign the guy to a big honkin' deal or watch those draft picks go for naught. What the Chiefs did was nothing like this. They traded 2 picks, 2nd and 3rd round for a QB with a couple of good years under his belt and no injury history who was available because his team mistakenly thought they had someone better, then the Chiefs gave him a 4 year, $68M contract extension. And they got good performance out of him for years, but then they looked to upgrade, watched their guy for a couple years, decided he was the one, and did what they had to do to get him. They had a plan. I want the Bills to have a plan. And what you're describing is not a plan, it's firing buckshot at a target and hoping something fits. You want Mayfield? Some think he's the best shot. Great. Let's go All In to get Mayfield. And then let's sign a vet to mentor him, the sturdiest, toughest boot-leather I will not get hurt, and if I do get hurt I will be available, vet we can find. "We can get him Cheap" should NOT be on the menu. **draft evaluation of Jackson: "Jackson needs to continue to improve his accuracy as a passer. That's the bottom line. Right now, he's a phenomenal college quarterback mostly due to his running skills and athleticism." Right, let's run a QB out of town who we complain about because his accuracy as a passer and ability to go through progressions don't match his running skills and athleticism, so that we can use a high draft pick on another guy with that scouting report. Wins are not a QB stat, and Bradford has played on some poor teams. That's not where the "smart money" looks. That said, Bradford has never shown himself to be "all world" as a QB, and his knee is made of glass. There could be jokes about a mafioso taking a discount to kneecap Bradford. "Other than That, Mrs Lincoln, How did you like the Play?" More like "Hell no we are not paying franchise money for a QB who is not franchise caliber" Cousins is nowhere near good enough to get paid what is going to get paid and to make up for the roster deficiencies he will end up causing by default on the new team. He is fools gold. Looks shiny, will put up big numbers, wont translate to wins. Edited February 9, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: My faith in McBeane, tarnished by the "bench Tyrod for NotreadyNate" episode, will plummet if Bradford is on our team. I don't blame the coaching staff or GM for the benching of Taylor. Taylor's horrible play leading up to the Chargers game was the main reason for him being benched. To top it off you have Lynn's knowledge of Taylor's weaknesses and a Chargers defense that can do the same things to Taylor that the Jets defense did. Taylor being benched is not on the HC or GM, it's on Taylor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I don't blame the coaching staff or GM for the benching of Taylor. Taylor's horrible play leading up to the Chargers game was the main reason for him being benched. To top it off you have Lynn's knowledge of Taylor's weaknesses and a Chargers defense that can do the same things to Taylor that the Jets defense did. Taylor being benched is not on the HC or GM, it's on Taylor. Disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I like Bradford as long as he comes on a cap friendly number with not a lot guaranteed. If he wants big money like these other guys are getting no way-too risky with his injury history. But if its like a 12-15 million bridge type deal that is cap friendly with not a lot of dead money or an out clause I support it. But he still has an injury history and bad knees.....why bother signing him at all? I don't get this 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) On 1/31/2018 at 6:54 AM, jtrip said: Tyler Steege @TSteegeNFL Age: Kirk Cousins: 29 Alex Smith: 33 ,000 yard seasons Kirk Cousins: 3 Alex Smith: 1 Total TD passes last 3 seasons: Kirk Cousins: 81 Alex Smith: 61 The #Redskins just traded FOR an older QB who isn’t even as good as their current QB. How do their playoff numbers stack up? Or the fact that you're using raw numbers despite the increased attempts for cousins vs smith. 45 extra attempts for cousins in 2017, and 51 additional yards. Cousins comp% went down for the 2nd straight year. Smiths had an INT% under 2% for 5 straight seasons, Cousins never has. Cousins led the league in sack yardage last year. Edited February 9, 2018 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Signing Bradford would be a "buy the rookie a little time" move, for those struggling to understand this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, ILoveEndingTheSeasonInNov said: Signing Bradford would be a "buy the rookie a little time" move, for those struggling to understand this. Thank you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, ILoveEndingTheSeasonInNov said: Signing Bradford would be a "buy the rookie a little time" move, for those struggling to understand this. For what, a week or two? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ILoveEndingTheSeasonInNov said: Signing Bradford would be a "buy the rookie a little time" move, for those struggling to understand this. The struggle is to understand why those who agree with you, think that signing Bradford would, in fact, "buy the rookie a little time" If you want a vet to "buy the rookie time", the #1 criterion for that vet is HE MUST BE AVAILABLE See the "logical" decision to ditch Fitz for "German word for made of Glass" Kolb Planning to start a vet with Bradford's injury history seems like a plan where you "lose your Hat" And any plan where you "lose your Hat....is a Bad Plan" -any Jaegermonster Edited February 9, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 No one will trade for Tyrod unless you cut his pay in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: For what, a week or two? If lucky Just now, Teddy KGB said: No one will trade for Tyrod unless you cut his pay in half. Unless the trade takes place in the 1st 2 days of the league season, that's effectively what you do since the roster bonus stays with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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