Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Scott7975 said: Also, I pump the breaks on Garoppolo. Sure he looked decent but to sit there and claim he is better than Cousins already is ridiculous to me. He played in 6 games this season and has 7 TDs to 5 INTs. I'm sure he had some good highlights... but he turned the ball over almost as much as he scored and that's never good. There have been many QBs that looked good after 6 games and went on to be terrible backups or out. Cousins has done well for a few years, not just a few games. Same thing with Wentz. Has he looked good, yes. Trending upward? Yes. Is his ACL tear a freak thing, or a seat on the "could have been great if only..." train? Wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 If any combination of Brady, Roethlisberger and Brees retire in the next year or two, Cousins becomes an elite QB by default. He's a far better and younger passer than Alex Smith. Yes, I still want the Bills to draft a young QB for once in their miserable history but Cousins would be the ideal bridge QB to mentor and keep us competitive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, stuvian said: If any combination of Brady, Roethlisberger and Brees retire in the next year or two, Cousins becomes an elite QB by default. He's a far better and younger passer than Alex Smith. Yes, I still want the Bills to draft a young QB for once in their miserable history but Cousins would be the ideal bridge QB to mentor and keep us competitive He is young, he would be MUCH more than just a "Bridge Quarterback".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, stuvian said: If any combination of Brady, Roethlisberger and Brees retire in the next year or two, Cousins becomes an elite QB by default. He's a far better and younger passer than Alex Smith. Yes, I still want the Bills to draft a young QB for once in their miserable history but Cousins would be the ideal bridge QB to mentor and keep us competitive If they sign Cousins for something like 5 yrs 25 M he will be more than a bridge. They can then use their draft picks to plug the numerous holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 With Cousins, you know what you are getting and I think it’s enough to win in the playoffs. We have the cap space for a front loaded deal and the draft picks to fill other holes would be great. I’m all for a 5 year deal that is more team friendly in the last 2 years. Is he top 10? Maybe 8-10, but he’ll be the best in the AFC East in a few years and that’s what matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, stuvian said: If any combination of Brady, Roethlisberger and Brees retire in the next year or two, Cousins becomes an elite QB by default. He's a far better and younger passer than Alex Smith. Yes, I still want the Bills to draft a young QB for once in their miserable history but Cousins would be the ideal bridge QB to mentor and keep us competitive He's either elite or not irrespective of any other QBs and he simply isn't. If the Bills do sign Cousins to a high priced deal, he will not be a bridge to anyone else as he will become the franchise QB at 29 years old with high value picks spent to bolster the holes in the roster. Edited January 21, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Dr. Who said: I would rather spend FA money bolstering OL and DL and try and get a young, cost controlled qb with franchise qb potential who can play for fifteen years. But see, I like Mayfield and I think you can get him without sacrificing all your draft capital to move up and get him; but you will have to move up, imo. I like Mayfield and if the Bills don't sign Cousins I hope it will just as you say. I don't think Mayfield will last to 21. Trading up to 12 or 15 would be okay. He has more upside than Cousins but more downside. Cousins involves less risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 9:26 PM, Ga boy said: This is my new revelation: who's going to beat Brady? Not Smith. Not Bridgewater. Not Bradford. If anybody can, Cousins can. Sacksonville is hopeful. By the "QB wins" standard, that would attribute the win to...Blake Bortles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Not elite, but still a top 10 QB. What I like about him is he is 10 times better than any QB we have had for a decade or more. And he's available. If we don't get him, though, we better go draft one high. Those are the two options I would be fine with (that I know of). I do not want Alex Smith, who we would have to trade for. He is a slightly better version of Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) On 1/19/2018 at 7:26 PM, Ga boy said: This is my new revelation: who's going to beat Brady? Not Smith. Not Bridgewater. Not Bradford. If anybody can, Cousins can. Actually, not. http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2015110802/2015/REG9/redskins@patriots?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr#menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A0ap3000000578237&tab=recap Fitz has done it a couple of times. How about Fitz? Edited January 21, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 The NFL's 2018 offseason could feature the rarest of moments: an upper-level quarterback available on the free-agent market in the prime of his career. Ranking the top 50 potential NFL free agents in 2018: http://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/22122388/nfl-ranking-top-50-potential-free-agents-2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 6:32 PM, njbuff said: If the Bills consider this type of QB, they would be better off with Smith and drafting their future guy in the 3rd round or something............. if they don't get their guy in the first round of course. IS this a joke? On 1/19/2018 at 8:55 PM, BuffaloBillsGospel said: Cousins reminds me alot of Tony Romo, always under the radar, many didn't think Romo was special either, choked in the big games but you have to look at the Redskins as a whole, if the defense matched the offensive production wouldn't they be a playoff and beyond team? Heck, even Aaron Rodgers has only won 1 SB despite being called an all world QB, he can't do it all by himself but that's what happens when you pay a QB that type of lute. Cousins has put up top 10 QB numbers the past 3 years, if that's not special then I don't know the meaning of that. There is only 1 Brady in this league so Cousins to me would be an excellent pickup, I don't see this franchise signing him, for the mere fact that we have a bunch of other vacancies and adding that salary cap would be crippling, that's why you draft a guy and have 4 years until he will be destroying the cap. Agree On 1/19/2018 at 9:11 PM, White Linen said: You had better keep digging, you just creating another 9 mil in dead cap space. More like no Hyde, no Clay, no Poyer and some more. Ok, no we don't win the game against Jax. Why do people keep wanting average QB's is beyond me... On 1/19/2018 at 10:26 PM, Ga boy said: This is my new revelation: who's going to beat Brady? Not Smith. Not Bridgewater. Not Bradford. If anybody can, Cousins can. EXACTLY On 1/19/2018 at 11:08 PM, PIZ said: A good quarterback? We haven't seen good QB play in forever. No we have not. On 1/19/2018 at 11:44 PM, Teddy KGB said: Cousins can pass Tyrod can’t Mccoy can run, Redskins rb’s can’t Who cares what Mcdrunkface said ? This is spot on... Look I don't no what the heck you people are thinking.. We have not had a player as good as Kirk in how many years? its this simple.. 1. Make cuts.. Tyrod, Clay with the cap space we have now we would be fine.. Do your math.. don't assume people.. we don't have to cut so many people to fit Cousins salary because we HAVE cap space also. 2. Now that you have Cousins build around him through the draft, RT, RG, DT, ILB, CB <<< we can get that in the first 3 rounds in the draft np. 3. Get a Vet WR that can play #2. That is it.. This isn't Rocket Science.. we win 2 more games this year AND we beat Jacksonville round 1. what the heck is you peoples problem with Cousins? Cause a Drunk beat up old former GM doesn't like him then we should not to? I would take him in a HEART BEAT. We would be set for the next 6 years or more. Average QB's win cause of top 2 defenses.. something no team can do with consistency. We built around Tyrod Taylor? how that work out? We got to the playoffs.. great but then we ended in the usual TT WHIMPER! Is this what you want for the future of this team? And then I see people wanting us to pick up a 3rd round QB.. genius.... bloody hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 If Cousins chooses to move on from Washington a team with a lot of cap space will outbid and over pay him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 23 hours ago, papazoid said: ten highest cap hits: OVERPAID - TT (18.0), Glenn (14.4), Hughes (10.4), Clay (9.0), Benjamin (8.5) EARNING THEIR KEEP - shady (8.9), Richie (7.6), wood (8.6), hyde (6.8), poyer (3.4) The only reason that Glenn is "overpaid" is because he was injured. When healthy, he's a top LT, and that's the going rate for one. Neither Clay nor Benjamin would be overpaid if the Bills had a 21st century passing game rather than one that seemed mired in the 1950s. Hopefully, Daboll will give them one. 15 hours ago, Dr. Who said: I would rather spend FA money bolstering OL and DL and try and get a young, cost controlled qb with franchise qb potential who can play for fifteen years. But see, I like Mayfield and I think you can get him without sacrificing all your draft capital to move up and get him; but you will have to move up, imo. The issue is that you know what Cousins can do in the NFL. A team can at least make some educated guesses what they would need to add around him to make their team better. Nobody knows what that "young, cost controlled qb with franchise qb potential" will do. He could be a JP Losman or an EJ Mayfield. Worse yet, he could a Ryan Tannehill -- too good to just chuck but not quite good enough to win with -- that a team ends up paying big $$$ for "just in case". 13 hours ago, stuvian said: If any combination of Brady, Roethlisberger and Brees retire in the next year or two, Cousins becomes an elite QB by default. He's a far better and younger passer than Alex Smith. Yes, I still want the Bills to draft a young QB for once in their miserable history but Cousins would be the ideal bridge QB to mentor and keep us competitive The Bills have drafted two young QBs in their recent miserable history -- Losman and Manuel -- which is why I don't want them to draft ANOTHER QB in the first round just to say that they drafted one. Unless they think he's the real deal, then they should pass and look for somebody on Day Two. Also, Cousins would not be a bridge QB. He would probably be signed for 5 years or so, so there would be no way that the Bills would looking for another potential starting QB for 3 or 4 years. That would be the same as if they drafted a QB in the first round ... they wouldn't be looking for his replacement unless/until they were convinced he was a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoTier said: The only reason that Glenn is "overpaid" is because he was injured. When healthy, he's a top LT, and that's the going rate for one. Neither Clay nor Benjamin would be overpaid if the Bills had a 21st century passing game rather than one that seemed mired in the 1950s. Hopefully, Daboll will give them one. Glenn is a solid starter. he has never gotten close to pro bowl status. there are probably 20 offensive lineman better than he is. his contract is totally out of whack to his talent. 2017 - 2nd highest cap hit of all offensive lineman in entire league 2018 - 3rd highest cap hit of all offensive lineman in entire league https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-top-25-offensive-linemen-of-the-2017-nfl-season https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-top-25-nfl-offensive-linemen-this-season Edited January 21, 2018 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) McCloughan is more than a little biased given that Cousins proved he was worth more than the contract McCloughan offered and Cousins turned down. But McCloughan lived what he says. I personally think Cousins will leave the Redskins and play his arse off for whoever hires him. If he goes to a team with a defense as solid as ours, he will win playoff games. Anyone see him mic'd up? This season his top RB had just 603 yards. His top WR had just 789 yards. Yet he managed to throw for more than 4,000 yards. Again. By the way, his defense was bottom 5 in points allowed. He did a whole lot himself. Edited January 21, 2018 by scribo forgot an important word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 On January 19, 2018 at 5:56 PM, papazoid said: TD's thrown KC - 27 TT- 13 that's more than slightly better if cousins was on this years team....we beat JAX In his last game (against...the GIANTS--the NFL's worst defense), he completed 54% of his passes and threw 3 ints, 0 TDs. But yeah, against the Jags, he would have really lit it up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 hours ago, papazoid said: Glenn is a solid starter. he has never gotten close to pro bowl status. there are probably 20 offensive lineman better than he is. his contract is totally out of whack to his talent. 2017 - 2nd highest cap hit of all offensive lineman in entire league 2018 - 3rd highest cap hit of all offensive lineman in entire league https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-top-25-offensive-linemen-of-the-2017-nfl-season https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-top-25-nfl-offensive-linemen-this-season There is not 20 tackles better than a healthy Glenn. That is absurd. Maybe 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 15 hours ago, Ittakestime said: There is not 20 tackles better than a healthy Glenn. That is absurd. Maybe 5 I said offensive lineman....(tackles, guards & centers) as far as Tackles only (left or right)....there are 10 on each of those years (2016 & 2017) better than Glenn. he was healthy in 2016 and still didn't make the top 25 offensive lineman. on that list there were 7 left tackles. my point is, cordy is being paid like the 2nd or 3rd best offensive lineman in the entire league. he will NEVER be that good. therefore, he is over paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 6:11 PM, MDH said: Of course he's not special. If he was special they would have paid him like he was. He's a top 10 QB but not in the tier of Brady, Rodgers and Brees. I don't think anybody is disputing that. That being said, he's much better than "slightly above average" that a poster above wants to paint him as. I don't know if he's worth the contract he's going to get but he's one of the best QBs in the league and you can defiantly win with him if the other pieces are in place. Granted, as mentioned in the article, a huge contract my prohibit having the cash to put the rest of the team around him. Brady Roethlisberger Luck Rivers Newton Brees Ryan Rodgers Stafford Wentz Watson Wilson Garappalo And there are several that are debatable, Carr, Winston, Mariota, flacco, goff He is not a top ten QB lol, not even close. Some of you are nuts. I hope you goes to the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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