Ittakestime Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I don't want a guy that never coached QBs, coaching a first round guy. Move him to a different role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: I don't want a guy that never coached QBs, coaching a first round guy. Move him to a different role. Agreed, make him the Passing Game Coordinator and assistant HC or something similar. Then bring in Chudz as OC and Dorsey to be QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Agreed, make him the Passing Game Coordinator and assistant HC or something similar. Then bring in Chudz as OC and Dorsey to be QB coach. Why not just fire him completely and let the new OC pick his staff? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Why not just fire him completely and let the new OC pick his staff? Because I do think he is useful, just not as the QB coach. I think the title Chud had in Indy before he became OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I agree. I'm not a big fan of Culley. He's bounced around on a lot of teams but hasn't ever really coached or developed any big time QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Culley is well respected and, I believe, part of the Reid tree. Move him back to WR coach as part of the shuffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I thought it was an odd fit when he was hired but I do see the connection between WR coach and QB coach. He was the assistant HC in KC as well. With a rookie QB coming in most likely I would prefer a different QB coach. I have a feeling that he will stay in some capacity, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Yeah I'd move Culley to wide receivers coach, the job he held in Kansas City. Hes been a receivers coach since 1991. Id be perfectly happy with him in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Yeah I'd move Culley to wide receivers coach, the job he held in Kansas City. Hes been a receivers coach since 1991. Id be perfectly happy with him in that role. I can’t even remember who our WR coach is currently? Edited January 12, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Culley is a well respected coach in the league. But yes might be coaching the wrong position right now Just now, YoloinOhio said: I can’t even remember who our WR coach is currently? Zays College WR coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I can’t even remember who our WR coach is currently? Lol It's that Phil Mcgeoghan dude. Zay Jones WR coach at east Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Culley is a well respected coach in the league. But yes might be coaching the wrong position right now Zays College WR coach Doh. That’s right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Yeah I'd move Culley to wide receivers coach, the job he held in Kansas City. Hes been a receivers coach since 1991. Id be perfectly happy with him in that role. Ok, Id be fine keeping him around with a move back to WRs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 they were high on Dorsey from Carolina. could see that being an obvious hire also Chud was the OC for miami 'canes while Dorsey was QB there so obvious connection there as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 30 minutes ago, blacklabel said: I agree. I'm not a big fan of Culley. He's bounced around on a lot of teams but hasn't ever really coached or developed any big time QBs. ....he was a QB Coach 30 years ago in collegiate ranks and has principally been WR Coach.....where is the fit?............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....he was a QB Coach 30 years ago in collegiate ranks and has principally been WR Coach.....where is the fit?............ I believe he was coveted for the staff due to his overall experience, he’s an Andy Reid guy and he was the one who wanted to be a Qb coach because he had OC/HC aspirations and wanted to enhance his opportunities. I don’t think he would have made a lateral move from the Chiefs to the Bills as a WR coach. It was considered a big get by the Bills at the time, but I always questioned the fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I believe he was coveted for the staff due to his overall experience, he’s an Andy Reid guy and he was the one who wanted to be a Qb coach because he had OC/HC aspirations and wanted to enhance his opportunities. I don’t think he would have made a lateral move from the Chiefs to the Bills as a WR coach. It was considered a big get by the Bills at the time, but I always questioned the fit. ...thanks for assessment bud.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Ittakestime said: I don't want a guy that never coached QBs, coaching a first round guy. Move him to a different role. Agreed many times over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: Yeah I'd move Culley to wide receivers coach, the job he held in Kansas City. Hes been a receivers coach since 1991. Id be perfectly happy with him in that role. They probably brought Culley as the QB coach because the spot was available and they want to bring him on board. Maybe the plan was to trudge along on offense last year with Dennison and TT and they thought they would reload this offseason and get a new OC and QB and move Culley somewhere. When we draft our QB we will get the best OC & QB coach for the young fella! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, Manther said: They probably brought Culley as the QB coach because the spot was available and they want to bring him on board. Maybe the plan was to trudge along on offense last year with Dennison and TT and they thought they would reload this offseason and get a new OC and QB and move Culley somewhere. When we draft our QB we will get the best OC & QB coach for the young fella! Yes I think you are most likely correct. Him and McDermott seem very close. They were together in Philly a long time. They were both brought in to the Eagles at the same time (1999) and worked together until McD left in 2010/11. I'm sure you watched this locker room playoff celebration video. Culley is the first guy to congratulate (and hug) McDermott - (about 19 seconds in). I actually hope that they do keep him on staff. He seems to be well respected around the NFL and I've heard he brings a great energy to the team. I'd just prefer they bring in someone who really has experience developing a young QB (assuming they draft one...). I would love an offensive innovator who design an offense tailored to this team (guys who force their system aggravate me...) as well as help the Bills identify their QB of the future and then develop him. This will be a very important hire. Fingers crossed! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 OC should have a say in who his staff is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 43 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: OC should have a say in who his staff is Seems like a rarity lately. I see a lot of HC deciding on all positional coaches. Norv Turner has been more of anomaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 He's from the Blokes coaching tree. I'm okay with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 hours ago, jmc12290 said: He's from the Blokes coaching tree. I'm okay with it. Uncle Dave knows his stuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Why not this??? Hire Rob Chudzinski (McDermott connection) Move David Culley to WRs coach (One of the best in the business) Fire Phil McGeorghan (His group struggled to separate all season long) Hire Ken Dorsey as QB coach (McDermott and Chudzinski connections) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Just now, Kmart128 said: Why not this??? Hire Rob Chudzinski (McDermott connection) Move David Culley to WRs coach (One of the best in the business) Fire Phil McGeorghan (His group struggled to separate all season long) Hire Ken Dorsey as QB coach (McDermott and Chudzinski connections) That would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 Bills should bring in Mike Shula as QB coach. He has a real good track record in that position and I am not sure if he will get another OC this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Ittakestime said: Bills should bring in Mike Shula as QB coach. He has a real good track record in that position and I am not sure if he will get another OC this year. I like the irony of Don Shula's boy winning a Super Bowl ring with papa's most hated rival. The ability to coach thing is probably important too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Koko78 said: I like the irony of Don Shula's boy winning a Super Bowl ring with papa's most hated rival. The ability to coach thing is probably important too. There was an immediate uptick in David Garrard's game when Shula became his QB coach. Cam Newton has been a pretty productive QB too. I think it terms of available options, Shula would be a good QB coach. Edited January 18, 2018 by Ittakestime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) On 1/12/2018 at 10:42 AM, Ittakestime said: I don't want a guy that never coached QBs, coaching a first round guy. Move him to a different role. How about move him out the door? You guys are all missing something. This guy has never coached in an E-P system. Andy Reid is a strictly West Coast guy. Daboll needs the best chance to prove himself as an OC. Let him pick all his own guys. Don't rinse and recycle and make him be trying to teach his system to players, through the mouths and words of guys who have never coached it before. Quit giving him McDermott connections, let him pick his own. Edited January 18, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) On 1/12/2018 at 5:26 PM, Ittakestime said: Seems like a rarity lately. I see a lot of HC deciding on all positional coaches. Norv Turner has been more of anomaly. That's great, when the HC and OC have worked in the same system. Until the Panthers, McDermott was a Reid guy, and Reid is a WCO guy. On 1/13/2018 at 8:22 AM, Kmart128 said: Why not this??? Hire Rob Chudzinski (McDermott connection) Move David Culley to WRs coach (One of the best in the business) Fire Phil McGeorghan (His group struggled to separate all season long) Hire Ken Dorsey as QB coach (McDermott and Chudzinski connections) Chud is an Air Coryell and some WCO, never that I could find E-P. It's also rare you have a happy guy taking a step back. If nothing else he'll be waiting to see if he can get another OC gig, or who knows maybe Colts keep him if they don't hire McDaniels (now rumored to have interest from Titans). Culley is a WCO guy (Reid). Now, Ken Dorsey is an EP guy, Panthers have run it since Shula came in in 2013. But guys usually aren't released to make lateral moves (QB coach->QB coach) and it's usually not to their benefit. They want to coach different positions to build up their experience for an OC gig and a shot at a HC position. That's why Culley came in as WR coach, he wanted the experience of coaching different positions, so it's not clear Culley would be interested in stepping back to WR coach. Isn't Reid losing both his OCs this year? Childress retiring and Matt Nagy gone to the Bears? Culley might get a chance to step up as OC for Reid? 4 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Bills should bring in Mike Shula as QB coach. He has a real good track record in that position and I am not sure if he will get another OC this year. Bet he does. Edited January 18, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 1:10 PM, BillsFan4 said: Yeah I'd move Culley to wide receivers coach, the job he held in Kansas City. Hes been a receivers coach since 1991. Id be perfectly happy with him in that role. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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