MarkAF43 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 He won't be suspended, he'll get a fine and that'll be it. He apologized remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You guys know he isn't even going to be suspended, right? No, we don’t. Please enlighten us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, mannc said: You are missing the crucial (and, I thought obvious) point that what Gronk did was well after the play had ended. It had nothing to do with a football play. It was a cowardly assault, no different from a batter clubbing an unsuspecting catcher with his bat between pitches. I am amazed you can’t see that. It's a lot different than that. Come on, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Correct. Even Rodney Harrison said last night he would be in jail if this happened on the street. And he made it perfectly clear that Gronkowski should be suspended...a former Patriot, too. My worry is that since Crabtree & Talib had their suspensions reduced from 2 games to 1 for their all-over-the-field, temper-tantrum spat, then Gronkowski will get a fine and a wrist-slap. As mush as this may sound like sour grapes, you can't convince me that Gronk isn't roiding it up. Don't give me the "heat of the battle" argument, either. Edited December 4, 2017 by BuffaloWings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Gugny said: It's a lot different than that. Come on, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Dont forget the waters are muddied. Goodell is up for contract renewal. Is Kraft a supporter? Will Kraft turn on him if Gronk is suspended? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 31 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Preston Brown is honestly the biggest Coward. Just stands there and points to the ref instead of belting Gronk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Interesting point. If a baseball player swings his bat at a player's head would there be criminal charges? Should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: It's a lot different than that. Come on, man. So if you put yourself in Tre White shoes I'm assuming you tell everyone it's not a big deal and it's just the NFL? Edited December 4, 2017 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You guys know he isn't even going to be suspended, right? Oh, he will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: It's a lot different than that. Come on, man. Not so sure about that. I would like to know what the elbow brace is made of, direct and powerful elbow to the head with a brace, gronk putting all his body weight in it. Notice Gronk's footwork before he rears up to gain more leverage to come down on his head. The more you look at it the more deliberate and disgusting it is, he set up tre white for as forceful an impact as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Interesting point. If a baseball player swings his bat at a player's head would there be criminal charges? Should be. It is an interesting point. Consider this too, the DA in Erie County doesn't need the NFL's permission to file a charge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 44 minutes ago, Gugny said: Hyperbole much? It was a dirty hit. Very dirty. But no one came close to dying and he shouldn't be brought up on criminal charges. This wasn't a curling match, for Christ's sake. Actually, it was a criminal hit. It was after the play. Hockey players have been charged criminally, and fighting is permitted in the sport. If it was during a play and it was a dirty chop-block, perhaps not criminal. This was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginald Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 May not be up to the NFL and Goodell. This should be a law enforcement matter. Gronk intentionally used his "metal elbow" as a deadly weapon. His actions were not part of the game of football. This was assault. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You guys know he isn't even going to be suspended, right? That wouldn’t surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 20 minutes ago, ProcessTheTrust said: Real life criminal charges, no. Suspended for the rest of the season to send the message this is unacceptable, yes. But I'm sure Goodell and Kraft and kissed and made up since deflategate, so probably not happening. The DA should file criminal charges if the NFL does not suspend Gronk for at least 2 games--if not the season. Sends the message that if the NFL won't protect players from after the whistle hits, DA's will. 1 minute ago, reginald said: May not be up to the NFL and Goodell. This should be a law enforcement matter. Gronk intentionally used his "metal elbow" as a deadly weapon. His actions were not part of the game of football. This was assault. BINGO. This is the exact standard used in other cases. Hopefully the Erie County DA takes action if the weak-kneed NFL won't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: It is an interesting point. Consider this too, the DA in Erie County doesn't need the NFL's permission to file a charge. Erie County DA office # is 716-858-2424 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: I agree with this. It seems like an easy decision. Looking at comments sections, even Pats fans agree that it was an awful thing. Such a cowardly and dangerous attack. The decision to suspend is easy, in light of all the factors (including the score/time of the game)... the hard part will be pushing it to more than 1 game (which IMO should be 3-4 games). The NFL will likely come up short. I agree, they will likely come up short. If they suspend Zeke Elliot for what, 6 games, they should suspend Gronk the rest of the regular season but i highly doubt the NFL will have the balls to do that. Entire system for suspensions is a farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, RyanC883 said: The DA should file criminal charges if the NFL does not suspend Gronk for at least 2 games--if not the season. Sends the message that if the NFL won't protect players from after the whistle hits, DA's will. I hear ya, but that would cross a line pro sports isn't ready to cross anytime soon. It's a pseudo world of self-governance that doesn't involve real law on field. Out of my own bias, I'd LOVE for you to be right but objectively, I'm not seeing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 42 minutes ago, Gugny said: No. It wouldn't. It would be a personal foul; he'd get fined and suspended. Just like what will - and should - happen to Gronkowski. Just now, ProcessTheTrust said: I hear ya, but that would cross a line pro sports isn't ready to cross anytime soon. It's a pseudo world of self-governance that doesn't involve real law on field. Out of my own bias, I'd LOVE for you to be right but objectively, I'm not seeing it. I agree that 'pro sports' isn't ready to cross that line, but it isn't really up to them. An enterprising DA can make this decision and pursue a case with or without the cooperation of the NFL or the Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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