LEBills Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Good thing he didn’t get a haircut! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KDIGGZ Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I'm calling bs. Who measured him? His agent? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 4 hours ago, wppete said: G Will Hernadez, UTEP. Looked good out there . Maybe with a fifth round pick. Huge guy and very aggressive. Mike Mayock compared him to Incognito. The guy has been considered a late first round pick/early second round pick for months. Small school guys do get picked high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 hours ago, kdiggz said: I'm calling bs. Who measured him? His agent? Haha. We will see at the combine I suppose. I do remember you posting there were rumors he was 5'9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Bingo knew it But hes only 5 Feet Tall !!! I Know It And Is Why We Cant Draft Him !!! (Says The Haters ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 ft means he already has a lot to overcome in the NFL, but based on his college performance i think he can do it. Even though it's small, it's good news. Though the combine is and always has been the true measurement, so we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 So other prospects that are shining Been hearing some good things(impressive feet, vision and receiving) about Arizona State HB Kalen Ballage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 He’s exactly Tyrod Tylors size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Acantha Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 50 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Might hurt his buzz, but I doubt it effects his draft position. Senior Bowl seems to be a very minor factor in draft decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 3 hours ago, NewEraBills said: So other prospects that are shining Where is DaeShawn Hamilton expected to go? First round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 33 minutes ago, Acantha said: Might hurt his buzz, but I doubt it effects his draft position. Senior Bowl seems to be a very minor factor in draft decisions. Senior Bowl is a piece of the puzzle. Whether or not it’s minor depends on how these players respond during these week. Not much will be discovered in terms of physical ability, but how a player performs in interviews, interacts with teammates, assimilates new schemes, etc., can be determinative much of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, PIZ said: Where is DaeShawn Hamilton expected to go? First round? No, I think he was projected as a Day 3 or undrafted guy before this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) I'm getting the feeling Mason Rudolph QB is the Bills 1st pick. Seems similar to how they looked at Brady in the draft. Dabol should be able to see the similarities, if they are there. I'm obviously not a scout, but to me, there are similarities. Thoughts? Found the below on an old ign post: Tom Brady Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the '99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own. Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone. Edited January 24, 2018 by PIZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, PIZ said: I'm getting the feeling Mason Rudolph QB is the Bills 1st pick. Seems similar to how they looked at Brady in the draft. Dabol should be able to see the similarities, if they are there. I'm obviously not a scout, but to me, there are similarities. Thoughts? Found the below on an old ign post: Tom Brady Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader. Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the '99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own. Summary: Is not what you're looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone. Sounds more like Luke Falk to me Particularly the Negatives, namely Poor build, looking frail, lacks mobility. That seems to describe Falk to a T just by looking at him. But alas, we'll see how things go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewEraBills Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 55 minutes ago, PIZ said: Where is DaeShawn Hamilton expected to go? First round? Dunno. Hadn't kept up on his draft stock. I'm thinking 2-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jrober38 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) Watching Josh Allen right now and he's just awful. Reminds me of JP Losman in the way he throws the ball as hard as he can at hte target regardless of whether they're 35 yards away or 10 yards away. He's in right now in the team drill and he's airmailing bullets all over the place. Same "area code accuracy" EJ had. Edited January 24, 2018 by jrober38 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCOrange Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) Not sure how to embed the tweets here, but here's a bunch of throws from Allen and one from Mayfield https://twitter.com/DustinFox37/status/956243954936279041 https://twitter.com/DustinFox37/status/956245265559769088 https://twitter.com/DustinFox37/status/956251807373656064 https://twitter.com/DustinFox37/status/956252401685745665 https://twitter.com/DustinFox37/status/956257714614755328 Edited January 24, 2018 by DCOrange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LEBills Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 hours ago, wppete said: He’s exactly Tyrod Tylors size. TT is actually a little taller. 7 hours ago, NewEraBills said: Mayock loves this kid cause he has a big time mean streak. Last guy he praised like that was Brandon Albert who turned into a pretty good pro. Maybe a good RT option on day 2. 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I don’t want to spend any more high picks on WR, but Washington is going to be a stud in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: This is why I thought it was dangerous for Allen to go to the senior bowl. Better CBs and safeties and can't blame horrible WRs for bad throws. He better blow them away with "coach-ability". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 GREG MCELROY: "A LOT OF TALENT, GOOD DEPTH" (5:13) Bills' Insider Chris Brown and ESPN College Football Analyst Greg McElroy discuss the quarterback class at the Senior Bowl in Mobile Alabama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Josh Allen can't hit the backside of a barn but he has a howitzer lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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K-9 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Josh Allen can't hit the backside of a barn but he has a howitzer lmao I think the term "touch pass" is a foreign concept to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, K-9 said: I think the term "touch pass" is a foreign concept to him. He literally has no sense of touch. when I was giving him a grade for his touch I gave him a 65/100 ... That is very very low and I might have been to generous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He literally has no sense of touch. when I was giving him a grade for his touch I gave him a 65/100 ... That is very very low and I might have been to generous ....Jeff George had a howitzer and career wise fired nothing but blanks...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....Jeff George had a howitzer and career wise fired nothing but blanks...... Yes he did he was just a hired gun going from team to team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Yes he did he was just a hired gun going from team to team ...certainly like the way you review the entire package, tangibles, intangibles, as well as weighing the pros and cons before offering your final assessment.....good job.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Baker Mayfield is much better than Josh Allen and it's not even close. Josh Allen should not be drafted before the fourth round. The talk of him going top 10 is pure lunacy. I don't care how far he can throw the ball. I don't care how fast he is. I don't care how much velocity he can get throwing on the run. The guy has zero accuracy. He regularly misses routine throws. He is going to get NFL receivers killed going over the middle. Stay far, far away from this guy. Accuracy doesn't improve significantly once you get to the NFL, and this guy has some of the worst accuracy I've ever seen. Edited January 24, 2018 by jrober38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Baker Mayfield is much better than Josh Allen and it's not even close. Josh Allen should not be drafted before the fourth round. The talk of him going top 10 is pure lunacy. I don't care how far he can throw the ball. I don't care how fast he is. I don't care how much velocity he can get throwing on the run. The guy has zero accuracy. He regularly misses routine throws. He is going to get NFL receivers killed going over the middle. Stay far, far away from this guy. Accuracy doesn't improve significantly once you get to the NFL, and this guy has some of the worst accuracy I've ever seen. I’m an Allen apologist because I think he has some amazing abilities and I think he is a great kid that has a lot of ability to improve - even in the accuracy department. But you are right, he shouldn’t be drafted early based on the QB he is right now. Unfortunately, he is going to be drafted early based on the QB he could be. And if he goes to a really bad team, it could end really bad for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, LEBills said: I’m an Allen apologist because I think he has some amazing abilities and I think he is a great kid that has a lot of ability to improve - even in the accuracy department. But you are right, he shouldn’t be drafted early based on the QB he is right now. Unfortunately, he is going to be drafted early based on the QB he could be. And if he goes to a really bad team, it could end really bad for him. The NFL never learns. No matter how big or athletic someone is, bad quarterbacks dont turn into good quarterbacks over time and no amount of sitting or coaching changes that. Josh Allen is who Josh allen is, and thats a long shot project. It will be a wasted pick if the Bills draft him in the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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