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Which QB starts in Week 11?  

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  1. 1. Which QB starts in Week 11?

    • Nate Peterman
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    • Tyrod Taylor
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3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Yeah, all the moves they have made are putting everything into the draft. They need to nail it. It's really the best way to build a winner: you have to draft your star players. Is this group up to the task? 

I'm having doubts after this last fiasco.

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2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Yeah, all the moves they have made are putting everything into the draft. They need to nail it. It's really the best way to build a winner: you have to draft your star players. Is this group up to the task? 

They could double the picks and they still wouldn't have enough. This team is devoid of talent. There is really very little talent left on this team. This is a couple of drafts and a couple FA periods at best and I still don't think they'll be there by then.

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20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

You are definitely in the "don't know a thing about football and it shows" group.:lol:

 

You mean he spends his days and nights doing things other than watching football and rewinding tapes of the last 17 seasons to dig up every bad nugget of this franchise?

 

Since you keep telling us that you know football better than anyone else on this site, why haven’t you answered the question on why didn’t a single QB starved team make a play for a relatively cheap and super-available Tyrod Taylor last February & March?  Do you think Cousins accepts a below market deal to return to Washington because there would be no takers?

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1 minute ago, jmc12290 said:

You're delusional if you don't think TT needs a team built around him just as much as any good rookie QB to compete for the playoffs.

 

He ain't good enough.  

The best QBs in the league also have the better teams in terms of talent around them. They don't have the slop that the Bills have at too many positions.

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50 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

 

Taylor wouldn't have thrown that pass.  He'd have check down to someone two yards downfield.   Come on, admit it.

No. He throws into tight windows at times. Not enough but he does it. He throws tight spirals to covered guys sometimes. He throws before guys look at times. People act like he never does these things, which is absurd, versus not doing it nearly enough 

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4 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said:

Did he also have crap WRs that were always hurt and a defense that was a sieve? Or a penalty every other down? Didn't think so. His "team" is better than ours. Zero doubt about it.

The Redskins defense is 31st in points allowed.

 

His leading WR has started 4 games on the year and only played in 9.  His starting TE is hurt every week.  

 

So perhaps we can stop pretending that only Tyrod Taylor is holding us back from being the Browns.

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19 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

You're delusional if you don't think TT needs a team built around him just as much as any good rookie QB to compete for the playoffs.

 

EVERY winning QB needs a good team around him.  Can you name 1 great QB that doesn't have a really good team around him?

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2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

You're delusional if you don't think TT needs a team built around him just as much as any good rookie QB to compete for the playoffs.

 

He ain't good enough.  

 

 

WTF are you talking about?:lol:

 

They didn't HAVE to build anything around him.

 

The offense was already built in the offseason of 2015.

 

The players were already there.

 

They didn't have to do ANYTHING wrt personnel to make it better for Taylor in 2015 than they had when they thought Matt Cassel was going to be the starter.   

 

Right now they need 1 player to make it work much better for TT........an high quality downfield threat........but more favorable play design and play calling are necessary and might even do it.    But despite tastes of success when he has made adjustments...... Dennison is determined to fail with what he knows best.

 

They need a lot more for a young pocket passer........specifically several replacements on the OL.......the hardest area on a football team to repair.

 

And the truth is when draft day arrives.........ALL of their picks in the draft probably won't be enough to move up to the very top couple of picks in the draft...........so if they are determined to get that QB......and they SHOULD BE........then they aren't going to be able to fix that OL.

 

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

You are definitely in the "don't know a thing about football and it shows" group.:lol:

The good old if you dont agree with me you dont know a thing about football blast.  Dont forget the agenda blast and the Im done talking to you blast. Also get some of you buddys to gang up on this guy and make sure to top it off by getting one of the mods that you buy shots for at the local watering hole every friday to ban him. That way youll have great story to tell all your coworkers at Dominos tomorrow night. Dont forget to gas your car up before your shift. More deliveries means more tips.

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5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

EVERY winning QB needs a good team around him.  Can you name 1 great QB that doesn't have a really good team around him?

I disagree with your premise that every good QB needs a really good team to make the playoffs.  

 

To win a SuperBowl, yeah probably. To make the postseason, NOPE.

4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

WTF are you talking about?:lol:

 

They didn't HAVE to build anything around him.

 

The offense was already built in the offseason of 2015.

 

The players were already there.

 

They didn't have to do ANYTHING wrt personnel to make it better for Taylor in 2015 than they had when they thought Matt Cassel was going to be the starter.   

 

Right now they need 1 player to make it work much better for TT........an high quality downfield threat........but more favorable play design and play calling are necessary and might even do it.    But despite tastes of success when he has made adjustments...... Dennison is determined to fail with what he knows best.

 

They need a lot more for a young pocket passer........specifically several replacements on the OL.......the hardest area on a football team to repair.

 

And the truth is when draft day arrives.........ALL of their picks in the draft probably won't be enough to move up to the very top couple of picks in the draft...........so if they are determined to get that QB......and they SHOULD BE........then they aren't going to be able to fix that OL.

 

 

 

 

That's funny, because all we had going into 2017 of the 2015 skill players was Sammy and McCoy.  

 

So this really comes down to Sammy.  Even though that 2015 team won 8 games with Tyrod.

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25 minutes ago, GG said:

 

You mean he spends his days and nights doing things other than watching football and rewinding tapes of the last 17 seasons to dig up every bad nugget of this franchise?

 

Since you keep telling us that you know football better than anyone else on this site, why haven’t you answered the question on why didn’t a single QB starved team make a play for a relatively cheap and super-available Tyrod Taylor last February & March?  Do you think Cousins accepts a below market deal to return to Washington because there would be no takers?

 

 

It's called recollection ol' timer.    I know I've told you that many times and you keep forgetting but I don't mind repeating myself for you because you used to be fairly cognizant poster back in your day.:flirt:

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9 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

 

That's funny, because all we had going into 2017 of the 2015 skill players was Sammy and McCoy.  

 

So this really comes down to Sammy.  Even though that 2015 team won 8 games with Tyrod.

 

Didn't say playmakers.......you said the offense had to be built AROUND Taylor and it simply never was.

 

The OL was there......and also Charles Clay who you don't consider a playmaker but whatever.

 

Came to 2017 camp with 9 starters from 2015 offense. 

 

Yes.......one player can make a huge difference........trading Watkins took away the Bills vertical passing game, which was critical.

 

Losing Dareus hurt a lot too........but I suppose you doubt that as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

WTF are you talking about?:lol:

 

They didn't HAVE to build anything around him.

 

The offense was already built in the offseason of 2015.

 

The players were already there.

 

They didn't have to do ANYTHING wrt personnel to make it better for Taylor in 2015 than they had when they thought Matt Cassel was going to be the starter.   

 

Right now they need 1 player to make it work much better for TT........an high quality downfield threat........but more favorable play design and play calling are necessary and might even do it.    But despite tastes of success when he has made adjustments...... Dennison is determined to fail with what he knows best.

 

They need a lot more for a young pocket passer........specifically several replacements on the OL.......the hardest area on a football team to repair.

 

And the truth is when draft day arrives.........ALL of their picks in the draft probably won't be enough to move up to the very top couple of picks in the draft...........so if they are determined to get that QB......and they SHOULD BE........then they aren't going to be able to fix that OL.

 

 

 

 

Can't argue with one iota of this. 

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4 hours ago, jmc12290 said:

The Redskins defense is 31st in points allowed.

 

His leading WR has started 4 games on the year and only played in 9.  His starting TE is hurt every week.  

 

So perhaps we can stop pretending that only Tyrod Taylor is holding us back from being the Browns.

and yet they are 4-6

 

perhaps we can stop pretending that only not having Kirk Cousins is holding us back from being the Browns.

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I think sometimes we overreact to things..1 half is not enough to make final judgment on a player.

Tyrod is obviously the more polished player atm and probably should not have been benched for an 

away game i blame mcdermott for that but its too quick to judge peterman theres been many qbs

with awful first starts who went on to be bad and some who went on to be good.

alex smith was 9-23 for 74 yards four ints and sacked 5 times..he turned out okay. Well c what happens

moving forward but im not ready to condemn a player after 1 half it happens.

 

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6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Didn't say playmakers.......you said the offense had to be built AROUND Taylor and it simply never was.

 

The OL was there......and also Charles Clay who you don't consider a playmaker but whatever.

 

Came to 2017 camp with 9 starters from 2015 offense. 

 

Yes.......one player can make a huge difference........trading Watkins took away the Bills vertical passing game, which was critical.

 

Losing Dareus hurt a lot too........but I suppose you doubt that as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We still have that OL, for the most part.  

 

A TE who makes his money in the seam is "built" around a QB like Taylor?  Haha.

 

Again, if your contention is that the 2015 offense was perfectly in place for Taylor, we still only won 8 games.  With his perfect O for his skill set.  Obviously, not good enough.

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1 hour ago, bills11 said:

I think sometimes we overreact to things..1 half is not enough to make final judgment on a player.

Tyrod is obviously the more polished player atm and probably should not have been benched for an 

away game i blame mcdermott for that but its too quick to judge peterman theres been many qbs

with awful first starts who went on to be bad and some who went on to be good.

alex smith was 9-23 for 74 yards four ints and sacked 5 times..he turned out okay. Well c what happens

moving forward but im not ready to condemn a player after 1 half it happens.

 

Again Peterman was a 5th round pick, who didn't even win the starting job in college 'til 2015 on a so-so team.  He graded as a 5th round pick.  This is not a first round can't miss......  Delusional to say the least (and I do feel bad for Peterman).  

 

Regardless he is not the answer going forward.

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9 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Again Peterman was a 5th round pick, who didn't even win the starting job in college 'til 2015 on a so-so team.  He graded as a 5th round pick.  This is not a first round can't miss......  Delusional to say the least (and I do feel bad for Peterman).  

 

Regardless he is not the answer going forward.

Draft position is irrelevant in the context of the discussion...Kirk cousins was a 4th ..dak was a 4th my point is 1 game doesn't define a career in not saying he's gonna be good but you need more than a half to evaluate a player . 

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8 hours ago, GG said:

 

You mean he spends his days and nights doing things other than watching football and rewinding tapes of the last 17 seasons to dig up every bad nugget of this franchise?

 

Since you keep telling us that you know football better than anyone else on this site, why haven’t you answered the question on why didn’t a single QB starved team make a play for a relatively cheap and super-available Tyrod Taylor last February & March?  Do you think Cousins accepts a below market deal to return to Washington because there would be no takers?

do I hear the sound of crickets? 

 

 

 

hhahahaha

Someone thinks this drought hasn't reach epic proportions!  

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9 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said:

No. He throws into tight windows at times. Not enough but he does it. He throws tight spirals to covered guys sometimes. He throws before guys look at times. People act like he never does these things, which is absurd, versus not doing it nearly enough 

Truth.

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3 hours ago, bills11 said:

I think sometimes we overreact to things..1 half is not enough to make final judgment on a player.

Tyrod is obviously the more polished player atm and probably should not have been benched for an 

away game i blame mcdermott for that but its too quick to judge peterman theres been many qbs

with awful first starts who went on to be bad and some who went on to be good.

alex smith was 9-23 for 74 yards four ints and sacked 5 times..he turned out okay. Well c what happens

moving forward but im not ready to condemn a player after 1 half it happens.

 

 

LA is more like a neutral stadium. Better that he got his first start there than this week or the following vs Pats. 

 

I'm not ready to condemn him either but we likely now know that we don't have next year's starting QB on the roster. Peterman maybe can evolve into a backup next year but he's got to earn that. 

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6 hours ago, jmc12290 said:

We still have that OL, for the most part.  

 

A TE who makes his money in the seam is "built" around a QB like Taylor?  Haha.

 

Again, if your contention is that the 2015 offense was perfectly in place for Taylor, we still only won 8 games.  With his perfect O for his skill set.  Obviously, not good enough.

 

 

I never said the offense was perfectly in place I said it wasn't built around him even then and it ended up working.

 

You claimed it had to be built around him.........would you like to move the goal post again?

 

Drew Brees is coming off three straight seasons of 7-9 backed by an awful defense.

 

The Bills haven't been much better defensively.

 

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