Buffalo Boy Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, joesixpack said: time. I always was pulling for the Dough Boy to get a shot. As is plainly obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Buffalo Boy said: As is plainly obvious. Hey, wait a minute.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Hey, wait a minute.... Darn!!!! Thought I could “ slip that one in” as it were??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Benching Flutie wasn't bold, it was stupid. Wade finally admitted it was Ralph's idea. Wade disagreed, but he didn't have the balls to tell Ralph where to go and how fast to get there. This was all McD, and made after many games of real action. Tyrod's had 4 bad games out of 9. If you're going to give Peterman a shot, do it now against a weak Bolts team in a neutral site, instead of against the best team in the AFC at Death Valley Arrowhead. This is a bold move, but I'd say it's the boldest move since Maroon gave up on EJ, who at the time, was playing better than both Flutie and Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, row_33 said: Hmmmmm, is there a co-relation between worshiping Doug Flutie and demanding that Tyrod stay in ? Doctor? the announcement today and Flutie's benching caused me to stop still and my eyes went real wide and i was shocked, has happened maybe 5 times in 40 years over sports then i started smiling over the pure justice of it all There may be an even stronger correlation or "co-ralationamaship" as you so eloquently put, between Petermania and Rob Johnson fans. How the f@#$ are there real RJ fans in 2017?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 35 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: There may be an even stronger correlation or "co-ralationamaship" as you so eloquently put, between Petermania and Rob Johnson fans. How the f@#$ are there real RJ fans in 2017?!?!?! Well you have Joe in NJ, so self-explanatory. Buffalo Boy who appears to be a grown man that likes to be called boy, being an RJ fan does not seem like that big of a stretch from there. Then you have RJ who feels it is necessary to alert you to the fact that its not that RJ, then proceeds to carry that RJ's jock. Just another day on BBMB2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Please don't compare Taylor and Flutie. Flutie was a freaking great quarterback. Taylor is meh. Edited November 15, 2017 by Klaista2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, RJ (not THAT RJ) said: Facts? In that game, Flutie threw an INT from inside the red zone (he did that a lot), and he was strip-sacked to end the game because he HELD ONTO THE BALL TOO LONG! You're not really going to argue that Flutie didn't have a good game despite a couple of mistakes, right? Are you also going to argue that Johnson was good against TN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 6 hours ago, Tatonka68 said: Bills will reverse the curse, Flutie to Johnson in 1999 and a playoff loss to the Titans. Taylor to Petermen in 2017 and a playoff victory against the Titans. Book it. That would be sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 6 hours ago, row_33 said: I think both moves were best for the franchise, surprised they did this current one though. Bold is not necessarily good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Because Rob Johnson's performance vs. the Titans was so good? People forget he was embarrassingly bad that game. They started the year in tank mode, then made a trade to shore the offense and now in a must win game bench their qb based on one drive in garbage time. This coaching staff & management is a joke..... He wasn't bad at all, he was adequate, i remember that game well...one play i remember is RJ getting hit so hard it knocked him right out of his shoe. I still think fluties escapability would have been enough to have a bigger cushion to avoid that fiasco at the end. Teams had figured out flutie by then, and the Titans had a ferocious pass rush defense that year, so who knows. Edited November 15, 2017 by Albwan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: You're not really going to argue that Flutie didn't have a good game despite a couple of mistakes, right? Are you also going to argue that Johnson was good against TN? He put up points and 340 yards passing and was going for the game winning td. Johnson was putrid that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 7 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Maybe it reverses the curse then Thinking the samething Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Flutie vs. Taylor via DYAR 1998/2015 5. Flutie 14. Taylor 1999/2016 10. Flutie 19. Taylor 2000/2017 (DVOA - Flutie w/ 5 starts, 11 games and Taylor w/ 9 starts, 9 games) 10. Flutie 20. Taylor Flutie in a rout. Edited November 15, 2017 by Wayne Arnold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: You're not really going to argue that Flutie didn't have a good game despite a couple of mistakes, right? Are you also going to argue that Johnson was good against TN? No, but I will argue that the game was a microcosm of Flutie's Buffalo career—some really good, some bad, and in the end his shortcomings kept him from getting across the finish line. His play in 1999 was becoming a real problem in the second half of the season. Still may not have justified his benching, but anyone who was following the Bills back then (which I know you were) has to remember the concerns about declining offensive production. The game in NY against the Jets in November was a particular low point. Johnson played very poorly in TN, then led a late drive for the points that gave them the lead. Which is what Flutie did a lot of in 1999 too (see the game against Baltimore, for example). It's ironic. Two very flawed QBs. I could not care less about either of them as people... I just root for the laundry. And for the benefit of the snarky commenter elsewhere: I'm not carrying anyone's jock, and have had this nickname on TBD for going on 20 years now. I'm funny that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said: Flutie vs. Taylor via DYAR 1998/2015 5. Flutie 14. Taylor 1999/2016 10. Flutie 19. Taylor 2000/2017 (DVOA - Flutie w/ 5 starts, 11 games and Taylor w/ 9 starts, 9 games) 10. Flutie 20. Taylor Flutie in a rout. Don't confuse me with facts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 6 hours ago, row_33 said: RG3 got hurt and they put him back out there when he was clearly unable to play, disgusting Kap just suddenly snapped, mostly in his head, and wasn't able to play at his best anymore, you could probably pinpoint the exact second it happened like when Lisa broke Ralph's heart The Flutie move BURNED exactly the right people that I was hoping it would. Quite enjoyable and it still isn't over with based on responses here... I will go to my grave thinking we at least go to SB in 1999 if Flutie starts that game. You (nor anyone else) will convince me otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 These guys have been pure bold! They do what they think is best in the long term. Sammy, Dareus, Darby, now the QB swap. Hats off to the owners who pick football guys and let them do their thing! Let them sink or swim, but get out of the stinkin’ way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, RJ (not THAT RJ) said: No, but I will argue that the game was a microcosm of Flutie's Buffalo career—some really good, some bad, and in the end his shortcomings kept him from getting across the finish line. His play in 1999 was becoming a real problem in the second half of the season. Still may not have justified his benching, but anyone who was following the Bills back then (which I know you were) has to remember the concerns about declining offensive production. The game in NY against the Jets in November was a particular low point. Johnson played very poorly in TN, then led a late drive for the points that gave them the lead. Which is what Flutie did a lot of in 1999 too (see the game against Baltimore, for example). It's ironic. Two very flawed QBs. I could not care less about either of them as people... I just root for the laundry. And for the benefit of the snarky commenter elsewhere: I'm not carrying anyone's jock, and have had this nickname on TBD for going on 20 years now. I'm funny that way. Your post is spot on. Flutie's arm strength started to go in the 2nd half of the season and the offense sputtered as a result. Much like Tyrod , opposing teams figured Flutie out. He still had the escapability and was a much better throwing on the run than TT but the initial Flutie Magic had gone. RJ on the other hand had done nothing to deserve winning the start in TN. The game played out predictably in the first half, RJ was a disaster. He was getting sacked left and right. I can remember during the halftime, Steve Young was stating that Flutie should be put in. The only thing that kept the Bills in that game so RJ had a chance was their defense. Would Flutie have won that game had he started? or came in relief? Who knows? I think he would have been really motivated to prove himself. Flutie had to know that if he got a chance in that game it might be his last shot to get to a SB. But thanks to Wade being a pu$$y we will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Your post is spot on. Flutie's arm strength started to go in the 2nd half of the season and the offense sputtered as a result. Much like Tyrod , opposing teams figured Flutie out. He still had the escapability and was a much better throwing on the run than TT but the initial Flutie Magic had gone. RJ on the other hand had done nothing to deserve winning the start in TN. The game played out predictably in the first half, RJ was a disaster. He was getting sacked left and right. I can remember during the halftime, Steve Young was stating that Flutie should be put in. The only thing that kept the Bills in that game so RJ had a chance was their defense. Would Flutie have won that game had he started? or came in relief? Who knows? I think he would have been really motivated to prove himself. Flutie had to know that if he got a chance in that game it might be his last shot to get to a SB. But thanks to Wade being a pu$$y we will never know. The Bills went 10-5 that year with Flutie under center including winning 6 out of the last 8. I wish we had a QB now that could struggle like that. Just win baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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