BringBackOrton Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 As of today, the Bills have $21M in cap space for 2018, not including rookie contracts. Our pending FAs: Kyle Williams DT 34 BUF TBD $7,433,333 UFA - Jordan Matthews WR 25 BUF TBD $1,237,317 UFA - Shareece Wright CB 30 BUF TBD $1,100,000 UFA - Brandon Tate WR 30 BUF TBD $1,010,000 UFA - Mike Tolbert FB 31 BUF TBD $980,000 UFA - Ramon Humber OLB 30 BUF TBD $900,000 UFA - Colt Anderson SS 32 BUF TBD $900,000 UFA - Joe Webb QB 30 BUF TBD $900,000 UFA - Leonard Johnson CB 27 BUF TBD $855,000 UFA - Cedric Thornton DT 29 BUF TBD $775,000 UFA - Taiwan Jones RB 29 BUF TBD $775,000 UFA - Shamarko Thomas SS 26 BUF TBD $775,000 UFA - Travaris Cadet RB 28 BUF TBD $775,000 UFA - Deonte Thompson WR 28 BUF TBD $775,000 UFA - Preston Brown ILB 25 BUF TBD $751,438 UFA - Jerel Worthy DT 27 BUF TBD $600,000 UFA - E.J. Gaines CB 25 BUF TBD $581,918 UFA - Seantrel Henderson RT 25 BUF TBD $567,720 UFA Who do we keep? Assuming Kyle comes back and we resign one of Gaines/Matthews, we could be looking at around $5M in spendable money next offseason. Do we restructure TT a third time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The juice Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Matthews is gonna command Robert woods type money easily on the market. He’s as good as gone I’d say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, The juice said: Matthews is gonna command Robert woods type money easily on the market. He’s as good as gone I’d say He might demand it, but he hasent put up the production to get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I’ve seen reports that they can have as much as $52M. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Steptide said: He might demand it, but he hasent put up the production to get it In three of four seasons he did. In their four total seasons he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 not sure we can't sign all of them if that's how we want to go. and hopefully they all won't make the team after our draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 28 minutes ago, Steptide said: He might demand it, but he hasent put up the production to get it of course he has, just not in Buffalo, where WRs go to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, Steptide said: He might demand it, but he hasent put up the production to get it Ha ha ha really???? matthews is a very productive WR, just not here because well we dont throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Ha ha ha really???? matthews is a very productive WR, just not here because well we dont throw And he missed all of training camp because he was hurt, and then he quickly got hurt, and is playing hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 38 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’ve seen reports that they can have as much as $52M. Looks like he's using Spotrac which doesn't include any rollover of this year's cap, for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 hours ago, jmc12290 said: As of today, the Bills have $21M in cap space for 2018, not including rookie contracts. Our pending FAs: Kyle Williams DT 34 BUF TBD $7,433,333 UFA - Jordan Matthews WR 25 BUF TBD $1,237,317 UFA - Shareece Wright CB 30 BUF TBD $1,100,000 UFA - Brandon Tate WR 30 BUF TBD $1,010,000 UFA - Mike Tolbert FB 31 BUF TBD $980,000 UFA - Ramon Humber OLB 30 BUF TBD $900,000 UFA - Colt Anderson SS 32 BUF TBD $900,000 UFA - Joe Webb QB 30 BUF TBD $900,000 UFA - Leonard Johnson CB 27 BUF TBD $855,000 UFA - Cedric Thornton DT 29 BUF TBD $775,000 UFA - Taiwan Jones RB 29 BUF TBD $775,000 UFA - Shamarko Thomas SS 26 BUF TBD $775,000 UFA - Travaris Cadet RB 28 BUF TBD $775,000 UFA - Deonte Thompson WR 28 BUF TBD $775,000 UFA - Preston Brown ILB 25 BUF TBD $751,438 UFA - Jerel Worthy DT 27 BUF TBD $600,000 UFA - E.J. Gaines CB 25 BUF TBD $581,918 UFA - Seantrel Henderson RT 25 BUF TBD $567,720 UFA Who do we keep? Assuming Kyle comes back and we resign one of Gaines/Matthews, we could be looking at around $5M in spendable money next offseason. Do we restructure TT a third time? Our cap room will be greater than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 5, 2017 Author Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 hour ago, TPS said: Looks like he's using Spotrac which doesn't include any rollover of this year's cap, for one. That would add $12M, giving us $33M without re-signing everybody and not including rookie contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Is it really a 'dilemma' or just next years cap situation, which every team deals with every season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The juice Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Steptide said: He might demand it, but he hasent put up the production to get it His stats in philly clearly show he’ll get the same money. Teams won’t take in account having to play on the run first bills team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 We will have more cap than that but... people wonder why we trade an underperforming Dareus on an absurd contract and didn't plan on re-signing Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Priority from this list is Preston Brown and E.J. Gaines. Matthews would be nice cheap but he's going to get too much $$$ and Kelvin/Zay are the #1/#2 for next year; I would expect him to be gone. Guys that are maybes depending on $$$: Kyle Williams Leonard Johnson Cedric Thornton Jerel Worthy Shareece Wright Deonte Thompson (fits the big WR mold they like) I don't think anyone on that list is really necessary, though they will have to spend resources to build DL depth if they let them all go. I imagine the most likely to get back is Kyle Williams - at his age, he won't be getting a big contract from anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Chilly said: Priority from this list is Preston Brown and E.J. Gaines. Matthews would be nice cheap but he's going to get too much $$$ and Kelvin/Zay are the #1/#2 for next year; I would expect him to be gone. Guys that are maybes depending on $$$: Kyle Williams Leonard Johnson Cedric Thornton Jerel Worthy Shareece Wright Deonte Thompson (fits the big WR mold they like) I don't think anyone on that list is really necessary, though they will have to spend resources to build DL depth if they let them all go. I imagine the most likely to get back is Kyle Williams - at his age, he won't be getting a big contract from anyone. Deonte Thompson aint that big. 6'0" and 200 lbs. I wouldn't mind keeping Thornton and Worthy, as this might do it for Meatball...playoffs or not, sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 A little short term pain to get healthy for the long term, I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Deonte Thompson aint that big. 6'0" and 200 lbs. I wouldn't mind keeping Thornton and Worthy, as this might do it for Meatball...playoffs or not, sadly Oh wow he definitely plays bigger than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 From that list, here is how I see it. Gone: Colt Anderson, Taiwan Jones, Joe Webb, Brandon Tate, Mike Tolbert. Re-Signed: Leonard Johnson, Jerel Worthy, Deonte Thompson, E.J. Gaines. As for the others: Kyle Williams. Seeing how much help the Bills need at DT, and how much of a leader Kyle is, will they try to convince him to stick around for another year or two? Cedric Thonton. If Kyle chooses to retire, then re-signing Thornton would be a good idea. Solid not spectacular veteran player, and won't cost much to keep. Jordan Matthews. How big of a contract will he demand? Pairing Matthews with Kelvin Benjamin would be very beneficial for the Bills, and would lessen the need to draft a WR with a high pick. Preston Brown. Is he the long term answer at MLB? Does he get a big contract or a "prove it" contract? Ramon Humber. 30 year old veteran player that has finally made it in the NFL. Tough call to make, especially if Milano progresses the way he has. Shareece Wright. Another 30+ year old player that is not a starter, and will probably not get that big of a contract. Seantrel Henderson. He could be good depth, and he's only 25. Should be cheap. Shamarko Thomas. A young player that is more for depth. Inexpensive to keep. Travaris Cadet. Another inexpensive player, that might be worth keeping around for training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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