BringBackFergy Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 its the "DNA" thing that McD talks about. These guys are out there, but they are not easy to find super talented guys with this type of mindset. The issue is that elite talent coming out of HS is so coddled in the college recruiting process that they think they are god's gift. They do produced commitment videos, nationally televised "hat dances", they are all considered the next big thing before they ever do a damn thing. Sometimes they get humbled in college but often they are part of programs that rarely lose and they continue to get accolades and fans fawning over them. If they screw up it's someone else's fault - the coaches, play calling, etc. (see Zeke). They search their mentions on twitter and RT all the positive tweets about them. Yes, it's all about them. When they get to the NFL they aren't ready to play for a team. They are used to playing for themselves. There are exceptions. But in the big programs specifically, where kids now publically and unashamedly commit for 3 years instead of 4, where the primary goal is the NFL $ and not the national title, they don't have the mindset Tre does. Compare his attitude to Marshon Lattimore .... who is incredibly talented, love the guy's play, and a great kid. But he spent this week pouring over his twitter mentions, arguing his PFF rating should be higher than it already is, and wondering publically why his jersey isn't selling more. His own teammate mark Ingram replied to him and told him to focus on grinding and not what he's doing. I'm not a get off my lawn guy and I understand that this is the world we live in with college recruiting. I understand why players sit out bowl games to get ready for the draft. As a cfb fan I hate it, but I get it. I know you can't possibly find a whole team with guys that have this DNA and the requisite talent. I do believe that you can built a team of Captains, though, that have this DNA. Tre was this guy at LSU. I have a feeling he will be this guy here. You need leaders in the locker room to have success and change the losing culture of this team. You need guys who are stars of the team, and also hold themselves accountable for the team's success and not just his own success. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Tre and Zay...two rookies with their heads screwed on right. Both will develop into great players.but that watkins and Gilmore tho!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 but that watkins and Gilmore tho!! Gilmore's reaction to giving up those two TD's: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Imagine Tyrod is the same exact player he is today. Close your eyes and imagine his sweet deep ball, and then his misfires, amazing escape and throw to clay downfield, the hesitation and holding the ball. Now imagine he looks like Doug flutie.. Oh. My. God! This is brilliant! Now that I look at it like THAT... ...he still drives me nuts by holding the ball too long and refuses to take chances with his throws and cannot win a game when required to throw the average number of NFL pass attempts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKN1K2He8yg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Good. I agree with him. (In part. He hasn't been "terrible." Just...not great. Promising, though.) For a rookie he has been outstanding- if you watch him live at the game the kid can straight up play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Oh. My. God! This is brilliant! Now that I look at it like THAT... ...he still drives me nuts by holding the ball too long and refuses to take chances with his throws and cannot win a game when required to throw the average number of NFL pass attempts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKN1K2He8yg Great catch on the movie reference 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Great catch on the movie reference Pretty good one. Watched it a few times on HBO as a teen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Yes, he's tough on himself, but don't you have to love it? Drink of cool water in the desert love it. Edit: If you haven't watched it, I would suggest that you SKIP THE YOUTUBE video above. It is a really really sad and horrible description of child murder. Edited October 19, 2017 by BadLandsMeanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 White's overall metrics have declined according to PFF, but they still have him ranked right behind Kareem Hunt as the 2nd best rookie in the NFL at any position. He's going to face quite the test these next few weeks against TB and OAK so will be interesting to see how he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 White's overall metrics have declined according to PFF, but they still have him ranked right behind Kareem Hunt as the 2nd best rookie in the NFL at any position. He's going to face quite the test these next few weeks against TB and OAK so will be interesting to see how he does. What were you guys thinking signing Gilmore for $14 million a year? Belichicks getting too smart for his own good. When Brady hits the wall I see a big slide coming for you folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Gilmore didnt have an ounce of this. Ive never been more wrong about a draft pick as Ive been about White. He was a great choice. Love this kid. He might be Tre-island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 How so? One is playing extremely well as a rookie and is devastated at one of his few poor plays, vowing to perfect his craft. The other is struggling but seems to think a 3-2 record is just dandy and only hears criticism because of prejudice. S A V A G E D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 He has a fantastic attitude, and many people would do well by incorporating his humility, drive, and desire in their daily routines with regularity. I just watched the video interview on the Bills app... he said he cried after the game cuz he felt that he's the reason we lost... I love Tre more n more everyday. This kid is a keeper. He's a corner we CANNOT get rid of. When contract season comes in a few years, Bills gotta give this kid what he wants n deserves and not let him go to another team like we've done with all our other corners in the past and recent past (minus Gilmore)... He even went as far as to say he will have a big game on Sunday so I'm excited to see what he will do against Mike Evans even more now. This kid is quickly moving up the ranks into being one of my favorite players. A really like the passion a lot of the new guys bring: Poyer, Hyde, White - these are the types of guys we need on this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 S A V A G E D So we are just assuming that Tyrod is happy with his performance and doesnt think he has things to work on? That is a really really out there assumption by folks that have no real fricken clue what he is thinking but anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 its the "DNA" thing that McD talks about. These guys are out there, but they are not easy to find super talented guys with this type of mindset. The issue is that elite talent coming out of HS is so coddled in the college recruiting process that they think they are god's gift. They do produced commitment videos, nationally televised "hat dances", they are all considered the next big thing before they ever do a damn thing. Sometimes they get humbled in college but often they are part of programs that rarely lose and they continue to get accolades and fans fawning over them. If they screw up it's someone else's fault - the coaches, play calling, etc. (see Zeke). They search their mentions on twitter and RT all the positive tweets about them. Yes, it's all about them. When they get to the NFL they aren't ready to play for a team. They are used to playing for themselves. There are exceptions. But in the big programs specifically, where kids now publically and unashamedly commit for 3 years instead of 4, where the primary goal is the NFL $ and not the national title, they don't have the mindset Tre does. Compare his attitude to Marshon Lattimore .... who is incredibly talented, love the guy's play, and a great kid. But he spent this week pouring over his twitter mentions, arguing his PFF rating should be higher than it already is, and wondering publically why his jersey isn't selling more. His own teammate mark Ingram replied to him and told him to focus on grinding and not what he's doing. I'm not a get off my lawn guy and I understand that this is the world we live in with college recruiting. I understand why players sit out bowl games to get ready for the draft. As a cfb fan I hate it, but I get it. I know you can't possibly find a whole team with guys that have this DNA and the requisite talent. I do believe that you can built a team of Captains, though, that have this DNA. Tre was this guy at LSU. I have a feeling he will be this guy here. You need leaders in the locker room to have success and change the losing culture of this team. You need guys who are stars of the team, and also hold themselves accountable for the team's success and not just his own success. Really well stated. Now get off my lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Really well stated. Now get off my lawn. come on Doc. Put some effort into it! Now get off my lawn you little s!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 So we are just assuming that Tyrod is happy with his performance and doesnt think he has things to work on? That is a really really out there assumption by folks that have no real fricken clue what he is thinking but anyways I can tell you one thing. Tre White doesn't think he got criticized about letting up those catches because he isn't white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Posted this in the PFF thread about the Bills having the #4 overall defense, but Trey White is ranked as the #5 overall DB in the entire NFL (including vets and rookies): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I just hope he doesn't get too down on himself,you need to have a very short memory to play CB in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 White is a stud. He, along with the entire secondary, has been the biggest surprise for me this season. I don't miss Gilmore at all because of White. ***positive surprise, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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