plenzmd1 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 This. Glenn is still a great player who's injured right now. Sal was speculating pretty hard yesterday why he was dressed bit only 4 snaps. It is worth the speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Other than that, how did you enjoy the play Mrs .Lincoln. The money is what prevents the Bills from moving on from either player this year, and most likely next for Big Stuff EDIT..Now Trapasso says trade is doable..i am so confused http://buffalonews.com/2017/10/09/exploring-bills-trade-possibilities-heading-bye-week/?utm_campaign=puma&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1507576457 Before getting into any possibilities, let's look at the state of Buffalo's salary cap. Bills cap space Per Spotrac: $8.5 million Per OverTheCap: $7.0 million Average: $7.75 million Currently, assuming a $178 million salary cap (would be a $10 million jump from 2017), the Bills are currently set to have a $37.3 million in cap space, the 13th-most in the NFL. Why mention next year's cap? Well, any larger salary Buffalo may take on can be split up into future years, so having an abundance of cap space in 2018 is helpful. The two most obvious trade chips for the Bills happen to be the team's highest-paid players on each side of the ball – Marcell Dareus and Cordy Glenn. Here are the cap ramifications for each if traded: Marcell Dareus 2017 cap hit: $16.1 million Dead cap if traded: $20.6 million Possible savings: Loss of 4.49 million The Bills also could designate Dareus as a "post-June 1" transaction, which would split the dead cap money over two years. In that case, Buffalo would eat $6.4 million in dead cap this year, save $9.7 million but incur a $14.2 million dead cap hit in 2018. Cordy Glenn 2017 cap hit: $14.2 million Dead cap if traded: $12.8 million Possible savings: $1.4 million If the Bills used a "post-June 1" designation on a Glenn trade, their dead cap hit in 2017 for him would be just $3.2 million, and they would save an even $11 million in cap space. In 2018, they'd take on a dead cap hit of $9.6 million. Clearly, with around $8 million in cap space right now, the Bills have room to unload either of these players in a trade. Edited October 10, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Other than that, how did you enjoy the play Mrs .Lincoln. The money is what prevents the Bills from moving on from either player this year, and most likely next for Big Stuff EDIT..Now Trapasso says trade is doable..i am so confused http://buffalonews.com/2017/10/09/exploring-bills-trade-possibilities-heading-bye-week/?utm_campaign=puma&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1507576457 Yeah I saw that earlier. I think this gets done. I don't think they are going to get high draft picks for either though. They are talented but Glenn has a lingering foot/ankle issue and Dareus is one negative test from 10 game suspension....plus other issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Before getting into any possibilities, let's look at the state of Buffalo's salary cap. Bills cap space Per Spotrac: $8.5 million Per OverTheCap: $7.0 million Average: $7.75 million Currently, assuming a $178 million salary cap (would be a $10 million jump from 2017), the Bills are currently set to have a $37.3 million in cap space, the 13th-most in the NFL. Why mention next year's cap? Well, any larger salary Buffalo may take on can be split up into future years, so having an abundance of cap space in 2018 is helpful. The two most obvious trade chips for the Bills happen to be the team's highest-paid players on each side of the ball – Marcell Dareus and Cordy Glenn. Here are the cap ramifications for each if traded: Marcell Dareus 2017 cap hit: $16.1 million Dead cap if traded: $20.6 million Possible savings: Loss of 4.49 million The Bills also could designate Dareus as a "post-June 1" transaction, which would split the dead cap money over two years. In that case, Buffalo would eat $6.4 million in dead cap this year, save $9.7 million but incur a $14.2 million dead cap hit in 2018. Cordy Glenn 2017 cap hit: $14.2 million Dead cap if traded: $12.8 million Possible savings: $1.4 million If the Bills used a "post-June 1" designation on a Glenn trade, their dead cap hit in 2017 for him would be just $3.2 million, and they would save an even $11 million in cap space. In 2018, they'd take on a dead cap hit of $9.6 million. Clearly, with around $8 million in cap space right now, the Bills have room to unload either of these players in a trade. Do you have to designate "post-June 1" if it is already post-June 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Do you have to designate "post-June 1" if it is already post-June 1? That would be for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Instead of looking to dump these guys he should be looking to dump the 4 people he needs to to ensure that 3rd round comp pick by week 10...im going to be seriously pissed if he does get rid of these guys but doesnt do what he needs to to get that comp pick. Edited October 10, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Instead of looking to dump these guys he should be looking to dump the 4 people he needs to to ensure that 3rd round comp pick by week 10...im going to be seriously pissed if he does get rid of these guys but doesnt do what he needs to to get that comp pick. Dimarco is dead weight IMO... His spot is taken by tolbert and we'd activate banyard. Not sure we can really get rid of holmes quite yet - but i assume they're getting dupre/reilly ready. Davis has been passed by Yarbrough - and we have 2 end's on the PS. Ducasse is just a body - 3 OL on the PS. We signed 7 and 5 were signed from us? So that would net us likely a 3 and a 4? Edited October 10, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 That would be for next season. You can do that the league year prior? Huh, learn something new every day I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 You can do that the league year prior? Huh, learn something new every day I suppose. Yea I wasn't aware of that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Yea I wasn't aware of that either. +3, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 This. Glenn is still a great player who's injured right now. Not according to the current coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Instead of looking to dump these guys he should be looking to dump the 4 people he needs to to ensure that 3rd round comp pick by week 10...im going to be seriously pissed if he does get rid of these guys but doesnt do what he needs to to get that comp pick. What 4 would you dump to ensure a 3rd round compensatory pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 What 4 would you dump to ensure a 3rd round compensatory pick? Would be Dimarco, Holmes, Davis, Ducasse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 You can do that the league year prior? Huh, learn something new every day I suppose. I don't believe so. Would be news to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Not possible , the dead cap hit for both is way too high. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/marcell-dareus-7718/ http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cordy-glenn-9851/ Edited October 10, 2017 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I don't believe so. Would be news to me. I'm pretty sure any move now would be split between this year and next year's cap automatically, but I'm not positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Dareus was drunk........ I think that says a lot. I'm envisioning Andre the Giant-like qualities of booze needed to get that big fella sauced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I'm envisioning Andre the Giant-like qualities of booze needed to get that big fella sauced.lol - no kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Hopefully it's a rumor that Dareus was drunk spouting off. Forget that, just run with as the gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 lol - no kidding Meant to say quantities, but it works either way i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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