JerseyBills Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Just make this **** end. Please. We don't need 1 bajillion threads on itSorry man, I actually regret putting it up. Was just shocked to see ESPN quoting Kelly about McCoy and got right on here to see the boards thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 There is nothing about this post I don't 100% agree with. He found religion after he did everything he wanted. My other problem is where's were his deap religious beliefs when Trump claimed Obama wasn't a Christian? Values aren't supposed to be fungible. WTH Is this nonsense?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Anyone miss the old days when sports was an escape from the real world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 How are people trying to "enforce their standards" on others? There are no laws being proposed to take away people's ability to protest. There are no laws being proposed to force people to stand for the anthem. Yes, the president wanted the NFL owners to take a stand, and not allow these kinds of protests during games. Personally, I think the league/owners should have that right.. IF they want to make that kind of rule (I would get fired for making political protests at my job). But the NFL is not taking that stance, so it's really irrelevant. By Colin Kaepernick's own words (and don't forget, he was the origin of this protesting), the whole purpose was because he "refused to show pride" in this country, because of what he perceived as injustice. So it's funny that NFL players around the league are now saying this protest has NOTHING to do with lack of pride, lack of patriotism or disrespect for the country. That's a crock of bull. If Kaepernick would have protested on his own time, or found a way to do it without knocking the flag or America - this would have never gotten out of hand. Chill out. I meant socially, not legally enforce. Clearly Jim, the local hall of fame qb talking about a current player, is trying to push his view of acceptable patriotism on another here by saying on the radio he lost respect for the guy. Peer pressure, not handcuffs. I think we all get that distinction, no? I wonder if Jim was being totally honest about himself, how many ways he's disrespected the flag or anthem based on the bar he is setting for others. The dude is a running back getting ready to play a physically strenuous game and stretching out a bit moments before. Thousands were in the stadium using it as a chance to grab a beer, or hit the restroom without missing any action or just stretching out their tailgate til the last possible minute. i participate by getting in early and standing but if the bar is where most argue it is- lot of people must be walking around real angry all the time about things that don't actually change their day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 You know what's disrespectful to me, Jim Kelly? Beating your wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 what about those whom are disrespectful? The bull **** of this argument enlies in personal freedom against disrespectful behavior. There is the black and white and there is the 10 miles of gray between. No one is changing sides and no one will agree where the lines need to be. This is a sport. This is where we go to enjoy common ground calling Tom Brady a little girl B word. I don't frankly care what McCoy or Kelly think. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Anyone miss the old days when sports was an escape from the real world? Never really has been. This talk has gone on for decades. Only difference now is social media. Remember Muhammad Ali? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Anyone miss the old days when sports was an escape from the real world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Well that's what makes America great. People can agree and disagree on any subject/topic they want. Exactly. And for the this isnt doing anything!! crowd, well, here you are talking about it. Edited September 25, 2017 by 4_kidd_4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Never really has been. This talk has gone on for decades. Only difference now is social media. Remember Muhammad Ali?Yup. Turn off the 24 hour sports channel, and log out of social media and odds are you'll find a familiar NFL experience. You won't get near the volume of politics. You won't get the 72 high def slo mo replies that make you hate the refs. The change isn't being politics into your sports escape, it's bringing sports into your life 24/7/365 Edited September 25, 2017 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 You know what's disrespectful to me, Jim Kelly? Beating your wife. Funny how these types of guys get a free pass in the league, isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Never really has been. This talk has gone on for decades. Only difference now is social media. Remember Muhammad Ali? The intersection of sports and politics has been around for decades for certain as exemplified by the Olympic Games. 1936 in Berlin (Hitler), 1968 in Mexico City (John Carlos and Tommie Smith), 1972 in Munich (Black September massacres), 1980 in Moscow (US Boycott), and 1984 in Los Angeles (Soviet Bloc Boycott). It's not anything new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Jim has the freedom to have his opinion and to express it. So does Shady. So do we all. I think Shady should have paid attention during the anthem. I don't like that he didn't. But I won't boycott the team or league over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Sorry man, I actually regret putting it up. Was just shocked to see ESPN quoting Kelly about McCoy and got right on here to see the boards thoughts.go to topic moderation and delete it Go to your original post you made and there is the option there to delete it Edited September 25, 2017 by Boyst62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 The intersection of sports and politics has been around for decades for certain as exemplified by the Olympic Games. 1936 in Berlin (Hitler), 1968 in Mexico City (John Carlos and Tommie Smith), 1972 in Munich (Black September massacres), 1980 in Moscow (US Boycott), and 1984 in Los Angeles (Soviet Bloc Boycott). It's not anything new. It's definitely not something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 If Shady isn't going to stand, then who cares what he does. I don't respect any of the guys who kneel but whatever.. They wear my favorite teams jersey so i root for them to win games. If they want to protest against social injustice, then do something for "the good" of the cause off the field. Also, Jimbo should just shut it. Don't need to hear his opinion on individual players.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 You know what's disrespectful to me, Jim Kelly? Beating your wife. and he found god after getting caught cheating on his wife multiple times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) When Jim turns black he can then judge shady. Haha! Sure seems like shady was taking a step further. Who cares. There are homeless people who cant eat. Thats a problem. Edited September 25, 2017 by nedboy7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Anyone miss the old days when sports was an escape from the real world? +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 +1 Seriously though, if you turned off espn and logged out of here and just showed up on Sunday -- it's still exactly that. You'd see a couple out of context guys kneeling if you noticed them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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