OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 Agree, though Goff also has a young head coach who is supposedly a qb whisperer. In addition to the suspect decisions at wr, letting Kromer go in favor of Castillo does not appear sound. Dennison has yet to show that he is a good hire, though he doesn't have a lot to work with. ...Kromer goes and Crossman stays....makes PERFECT sense.................somebody has pictures................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Watkins is a good bordering on great talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 So will Zay and Matthews 3 weeks of work equal woods and Sammy 1 game? Doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 For me it was harder seeing the kid get a concussion after finally having such a good game with his new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 For me it was harder seeing the kid get a concussion after finally having such a good game with his new team. that was brutal to see on such an innocent looking event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 You better pray these stockpiled picks come through or they'll end up as just another idiotic coach/GM combo... You can say that about every single HC/GM in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) We have given away our number 1 & 2 receivers and our number 2 & 3 running backs. Three of four have showed very well so far. The only consolation is that we have the extra draft picks in the first three rounds. Which once drafted will take another 2-3 years to develop. I question Mc Bean's ability to evaluate talent and to make the right picks. So far very unimpressed. Not looking to find excuses for these guys but I don't think they have much of a plan. You don't have to take one step back to take two step forward, not when you inherit a .500 team. Edited September 24, 2017 by VADC Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 A tough one, the Sammy thing didn't work out and he wasn't staying anyway. fans will go nuts, but Sammy simply was going to exit a rebuilding franchise at year end. you have to accept that. until this becomes a playoff type team, top guys will be playing out their rookie contract and then leaving, McBeane did the right thing by getting something for him now. This is just part of what happens when you blow it all up. Pegs blew it all up, probably for good reason. Sammy had not performed for 3 years. Time to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 they were not going to resign him for 12 a year and they don't have anyone to throw him the bad. it was a good deal for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) That might be true. Corners arent respecting ZJ or Matthews ability to beat them deep so they play them close on the short routes and they arent getting seperation. We have the worst WR core in the league and one of the worst OCs to go along with it. More importantly.. One of the worst QBs too Edited September 24, 2017 by PABillsfan23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 We have given away our number 1 & 2 receivers and our number 2 & 3 running backs. Three of four have showed very well so far. The only consolation is that we have the extra draft picks in the first three rounds. Which once drafted will take another 2-3 years to develop. I question Mc Bean's ability to evaluate talent and to make the right picks. So far very unimpressed. Not looking to find excuses for these guys but I don't think they have much of a plan. You don't have to take one step back to take two step forward, not when you inherit a .500 team. And our top two CBs! But hey, at least we replaced one of those positions with a first round pick. Not like our roster didn't need upgrading in other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Front Office asking Bills Fans to trust the process: Some fans reactions when the process goes awry: What some fans are doing to The Bills' advances: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 that was brutal to see on such an innocent looking event.Especially after watching Robert get ran over by a mavk truck head to head and him pop right up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Obviously it's hard to watch as a Bills fan / player / coach, but they didn't deal him because they thought he lacked skill. They dealt him because they 1) succumbed to the typical "get rid of all the previous GM's "guys"" and 2) don't want to build a team around a player who may not play half the season. I get the trade, I supported the trade, I didn't necessarily like the trade. But yeah, we all have to grin and bear it when Watkins, Woods, and Goodwin all simultaneously perform at the highest level they ever achieved with the Bills, but for a different team. I really wish we would have been able to keep Woods at a modest salary. He was [mostly] solid, and would have helped Tyrod tremendously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) Coach should try reading the stupidity in this board. It will make watching Sammy easier. We have given away our number 1 & 2 receivers and our number 2 & 3 running backs. Three of four have showed very well so far. The only consolation is that we have the extra draft picks in the first three rounds. Which once drafted will take another 2-3 years to develop. I question Mc Bean's ability to evaluate talent and to make the right picks. So far very unimpressed. Not looking to find excuses for these guys but I don't think they have much of a plan. You don't have to take one step back to take two step forward, not when you inherit a .500 team.Common sense? This is not welcome here. You are dead on. Edited September 24, 2017 by nedboy7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Beane and McDermott are probably very aware that to be successful GM and Coach in the NFL you need a real Franchise QB. They are doing their best to put a decent product on the field. However, if push came to shove, their game plan would be to do whatever it takes to that QB on the roster ASAP. So in order to get a QB you needed to get rid of your best receiver? He's a guy that is only 24 years-old. I'd think that would be a nice toy for a developing, young, highly drafted QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Buyers remorse?............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rant_and_go Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 So in order to get a QB you needed to get rid of your best receiver? He's a guy that is only 24 years-old. I'd think that would be a nice toy for a developing, young, highly drafted QB. Very rare to find a QB that's good right out of the draft. They need two years max. Then they have one year of sucking. TT has problems to his game that's impossibe to overcome unless the Bills reinvent football. So 4 years, than Watkins gets to be a playmaker again. That's the 8th year in the league for a WR. Gutting the roster buys the regime a free year. They're going to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Very rare to find a QB that's good right out of the draft. They need two years max. Then they have one year of sucking. TT has problems to his game that's impossibe to overcome unless the Bills reinvent football. So 4 years, than Watkins gets to be a playmaker again. That's the 8th year in the league for a WR. Gutting the roster buys the regime a free year. They're going to take it. It took Goff 3 games with his new receivers (year 2) to look like a totally different player. Not sure where the 4 years is coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rant_and_go Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 It took Goff 3 games with his new receivers (year 2) to look like a totally different player. Not sure where the 4 years is coming from? This year for TT Next year to sit the rookie, like Goff last year 1 year to suck, like Goff did last week against the Redskins Year 4 is where they actually have a chance to be top level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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