Scott7975 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Why we still talking about Sammy? Did he leave his foot brace behind? It might be the most controversial moves in Bills history. Not once but twice on the same player. Is it really surprising that he is still talked about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Truth hurts, doesn't it? What coach is going to say that they wanted a player back that signed with the best team in the nfl for a lot of money? Playing in zone is a million times easier than playing in Rexs stupid system. Gilmore would have been great in this system. He just cost too much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 What coach is going to say that they wanted a player back that signed with the best team in the nfl for a lot of money? Playing in zone is a million times easier than playing in Rexs stupid system. Gilmore would have been great in this system. He just cost too much money. Gilmore sucked at tackling. Very first game of this year he missed a tackle on Kareem Hunt. McDermott likes sound fundamentals in his CBs and Gilmore wasn't that guy. It's insane what the Patriots payed him but that's what you can do when you have the greatest QB of all time on a cheap deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Is it really surprising that he is still talked about? Yes, because he is gone. LET IT GO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Yes, because he is gone. LET IT GO. I let it go a long time ago. Its still not surprising that he is talked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Is it really surprising that he is still talked about? No, because some people need everyone else to be miserable with them. Dude's gone. Nothing anyone can do. Nothing. Well, nothing but look for the opportunities to say "I told you so." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Gilmore sucked at tackling. Very first game of this year he missed a tackle on Kareem Hunt. McDermott likes sound fundamentals in his CBs and Gilmore wasn't that guy. It's insane what the Patriots payed him but that's what you can do when you have the greatest QB of all time on a cheap deal. FWIW, Gilmore never played in a pure man scheme. Schwartz played a lot of Cover-3 Rex's D played Cover 2/3/4/6 about 50% of the time They didn't keep him because of the money they'd have to commit. That he wasn't a great tackler probably contributed to the difference in valuation between the team and player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Its still not surprising that he is talked about. I agree, if we are talking about this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 It might be the most controversial moves in Bills history. Not once but twice on the same player. Is it really surprising that he is still talked about? I'd say it could be three controversial moves: 1. Traded a 1st round pick to move up and took Watkins over Khalil Mack when they could've just taken OBJ at their original pick 2. Did not exercise the option for the 5th year of Sammy's contract, which may have partially influenced trading him to get something for him if they didn't re-sign him 3. Trading such a talent away for a lesser player and a 2nd round pick, severely weakening the talent at the WR position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 FWIW, Gilmore never played in a pure man scheme. Schwartz played a lot of Cover-3 Rex's D played Cover 2/3/4/6 about 50% of the time They didn't keep him because of the money they'd have to commit. That he wasn't a great tackler probably contributed to the difference in valuation between the team and player. Good post on all counts. There was likely not just One determining factor here. Seems like they got it right , so far . The point about contracts is valid as well. Perhaps they will draft another CB after trading down next year? I hope Gaines stays healthy and deserves a nice contract. Whether McBeane/Bills are the one who pays him, i don't worry for that right now. KA EJ !! I'd say it could be three controversial moves: 1. Traded a 1st round pick to move up and took Watkins over Khalil Mack when they could've just taken OBJ at their original pick 2. Did not exercise the option for the 5th year of Sammy's contract, which may have partially influenced trading him to get something for him if they didn't re-sign him 3. Trading such a talent away for a lesser player and a 2nd round pick, severely weakening the talent at the WR position whats your confidence in the Current regimes ability to draft? A WR specifically? I bet they draft WR each year for 4 years building the stable. I might guess they look for another starter next year, even if it is a #3, and then take a flyer on a burner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 It might be the most controversial moves in Bills history. Not once but twice on the same player. Is it really surprising that he is still talked about? Does he put on a Bills uniform when he plays? Then I could care less about him. Hope he stays healthy all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 It might be the most controversial moves in Bills history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Keep in mind that both Mathews and Gaines are free agents after this season. If Gaines continues to play well on a top rated defense, could likely have high price demands. Not sure Beane likes paying big contracts. True but if lose both and don't sign anyone to replace them we could also get compensation picks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 True but if lose both and don't sign anyone to replace them we could also get compensation picks back. and maybe those picks will get us someone as good or better, or not. Just saying, don't get too excited about these new acquistions and hope the draft picks bring in someone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 (edited) @MylesASimmons McVay says WRs Watkins and Austin are "good to go" for Sunday. Edited September 29, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 This strategy works a lot better if you have HOF qbs. So if you dont have a hof qb you spend with reckless abandon. Give huge contracts to risky free agents and hope for the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 and maybe those picks will get us someone as good or better, or not. Just saying, don't get too excited about these new acquistions and hope the draft picks bring in someone better. What's important is that we are already a better team than last year and we have lots of high draft picks and tons of cap room to build this into an even more talented team the way this FO envisions it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 What's important is that we are already a better team than last year and we have lots of high draft picks and tons of cap room to build this into an even more talented team the way this FO envisions it to be. yeah, that's a good thing. Let's hope they keep moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 @MylesASimmons McVay says WRs Watkins and Austin are "good to go" for Sunday. So...my "watch" is on. Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 @MylesASimmons McVay says WRs Watkins and Austin are "good to go" for Sunday. So...my "watch" is on. Thanks for the heads up. Sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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