Augie Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Trading dareus would require an ossweiler type trade. We would have to give up a pick also and get nothing in return or a lesser pick. If they want Taylor then he goes in but they may not. It would take picks. Lots of picks plus maybe some good your players like Lawson and white. Even then they would not do it. Huh? Who brought Dareus into this? What did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Huh? Who brought Dareus into this? What did I miss? Read the op? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Read the op? My bad! It was just silly enough I guess I skimmed over it. I'll take a franchise QB over a DT and all kinds of other stuff, even if it takes him this year to get healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 Can we play the season. STOP THE STUPID THREADS. YES, I THINK THIS IS A STUPID THREAD Just not newbies that start stupid threads. Self moderation works people. You can delete them. Holy tantrums! Be careful ol' timer......remember what they say.......once a man......twice a baby. And let me tell ya' what's stupid.......stromboli.....aka "hot pockets"......instead of making fresh chicken wings at a tailgate IN BUFFALO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 My bad! It was just silly enough I guess I skimmed over it. I'll take a franchise QB over a DT and all kinds of other stuff, even if it takes him this year to get healthy. The whole thing is far fetched but pretty sure teams will not want dareus and his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Holy tantrums! Be careful ol' timer......remember what they say.......once a man......twice a baby. And let me tell ya' what's stupid.......stromboli.....aka "hot pockets"......instead of making fresh chicken wings at a tailgate IN BUFFALO. Come and make them for me please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 For the sake of fun, what would the cap hit be to unload a Dareus for a Luck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Well - as I said earlier in this thread - if Luck is dealt it's because his camp forced Irsay's hand. Perhaps this rumor of discontent is the first crack in the armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) Nada - Bert Jones 2.0Not a bad comp ( read to the end -- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_Jones ), which may be why Luck allegedly wants out of the Colts org. 'The widely respected scout Ernie Accorsi is quoted as saying that if Bert Jones had played under different circumstances, he probably would have been the greatest player ever. ... On the eve of Super Bowl XLII, New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick, in discussing his choices for the greatest quarterbacks of all time, described Jones as the best "pure passer" he had ever seen.' Edited September 14, 2017 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 Not a bad comp ( read to the end -- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_Jones ), which may be why Luck allegedly wants out of the Colts org. Yeah it's an experienced comp for sure..........Jones got ruined.........but let's be clear......he hasn't taken the beating that Bert Jones did. Nobody gets beaten like a QB on a bad team back then...........that was shell shock as much as injuries. Luck should have another decade of good football in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Its possible. There is going to be a lot of new QBs leading teams in 18. You got a pretty deep draft, you have Brees in the last year and Cousins, Alex Smith could be on a new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) Yeah it's an experienced comp for sure..........Jones got ruined.........but let's be clear......he hasn't taken the beating that Bert Jones did. Nobody gets beaten like a QB on a bad team back then...........that was shell shock as much as injuries. Luck should have another decade of good football in front of him. Agreed, but if I'm Luck, I'm looking at the owner - who ain't going anywhere - and saying to myself, "if past is prelude, I need to get the hell out of Dodge ASAFP." Guess who was the owner of the Baltimore Colts in the late 70s/early 80s? Edited September 14, 2017 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 Agreed, but if I'm him I'm looking at the owner, who ain't going anywhere, and saying to myself, "if past is prelude, I need to get the hell out asafp." Guess who was the owner of the Baltimore Colts in the late 70s/early 80s? The amazing thing is that he is a football genius compared to his old man. In the 1980's Ralph was arguably not even one of the league's 10-15 worst owners..........a big part of the reason that Ralph's teams got thoroughly uncompetitive is that the quality of competition got much higher in those owners meetings and he was still doing the kinda' dumbsh*t that he had been doing 20-30 years earlier. I do think my original premise is a possibility.........the chance for a fresh start would be enticing for both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Huh? Who brought Dareus into this? What did I miss? I did Can we play the season. STOP THE STUPID THREADS. YES, I THINK THIS IS A STUPID THREAD Just not newbies that start stupid threads. Self moderation works people. You can delete them. LOL, deal with it, old timer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) A Mess Grows in Indy: With Luck Concerned, NFL Execs Say He Should Demand Trade Ask a handful of front office personnel around the league, and they'll tell you what has happened in Indianapolis is one of the greatest wastes of quarterback talents they've ever seen. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2733035-a-mess-grows-in-indy-with-luck-concerned-nfl-execs-say-he-should-demand-trade Alex Smith knows he'll likely play elsewhere next year After K.C. brass traded up to draft Patrick Mahomes in the first round, Smith knew the score. The 33-year-old quarterback said before the season during an interview on In Depth with Graham Bensinger, he understands the expectation is that he'll be playing elsewhere next year. Smith added that's how he's always operated. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000844632/article/alex-smith-knows-hell-likely-play-elsewhere-next-year Edited September 15, 2017 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 No way in heck luck gets traded. Wishful thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 No way in heck luck gets traded. Wishful thinking If they tank the season by trading Luck for draft picks to rebuild and draft another QB high in the 1st . The team traded to would need a lot of cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 "suck for Luck" turned into "suck with Luck." they need to fire Pagano, i can't believe he still has a job. Arians was the best coach they've had since Dungy and they let him leave after he almost got them to the Super Bowl. it's been downhill ever since Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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