bobobonators Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 1. We gave up a 2015 1st round pick and 2015 4th round pick to move up and get Watkins. He is gone 3yrs later and missed like 30% of his games. 2. Cyrus was our 2nd round pick in 2014. He is an abomination. 3. Our first pick in 2015 was 2nd round pick Darby. He is gone 2 years later. 4. Our 2nd pick in 2015, 3rd rounder John Miller, is barely a starter and may get beat out by Ducasse, who is horrible. 5. Our 3rd pick in 2015, 5th rounder Karlos Williams isn't even in the NFL anymore. So to recap: We missed on our 2014 1st round pick; we gave up our 2015 1st round pick; we missed on our 2014 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 3rd round pick. The 2014-2015 draft classes have set this team back at least 5 years. A blind monkey could have thrown darts at the draft board and had more success.
Royale with Cheese Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 We are seeing the results of cleaning up a previous regimes mess.
LABILLBACKER Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 By this time next year every single Marone/Ryan era player will be gone.
row_33 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 I'm ready to sit there and watch the first year of a three year serious rebuilding plan. I think it's the 6th one now (a few didn't quite get to Year Three) Official space helmet on, Captain Video!
row_33 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 7:18 PM, VABills said: And people were upset that Doug is gone. I trusted Donohoe when he said the team was on the right train tracks to playoff success.
BringBackOrton Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) It's not Doug Whaley's fault that none of the players he drafted are here - his fans, probably. Edited August 28, 2017 by jmc12290
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) On 8/28/2017 at 7:14 PM, bobobonators said: 1. We gave up a 2015 1st round pick and 2015 4th round pick to move up and get Watkins. He is gone 3yrs later and missed like 30% of his games. 2. Cyrus was our 2nd round pick in 2014. He is an abomination. 3. Our first pick in 2015 was 2nd round pick Darby. He is gone 2 years later. 4. Our 2nd pick in 2015, 3rd rounder John Miller, is barely a starter and may get beat out by Ducasse, who is horrible. 5. Our 3rd pick in 2015, 5th rounder Karlos Williams isn't even in the NFL anymore. So to recap: We missed on our 2014 1st round pick; we gave up our 2015 1st round pick; we missed on our 2014 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 3rd round pick. The 2014-2015 draft classes have set this team back at least 5 years. A blind monkey could have thrown darts at the draft board and had more success. 11 games out of 48. 23%. I really find it hard to believe that Ducasse is beating out Miller by any legit metric. I think Ducasse has nasty pictures of Castillo or something. Please, when coaching that "blind monkey", please train it to throw darts that will take into account 3 coaching changes in <5 years Edited August 28, 2017 by Hapless Bills Fan
PolishDave Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 7:14 PM, bobobonators said: 1. We gave up a 2015 1st round pick and 2015 4th round pick to move up and get Watkins. He is gone 3yrs later and missed like 30% of his games. 2. Cyrus was our 2nd round pick in 2014. He is an abomination. 3. Our first pick in 2015 was 2nd round pick Darby. He is gone 2 years later. 4. Our 2nd pick in 2015, 3rd rounder John Miller, is barely a starter and may get beat out by Ducasse, who is horrible. 5. Our 3rd pick in 2015, 5th rounder Karlos Williams isn't even in the NFL anymore. So to recap: We missed on our 2014 1st round pick; we gave up our 2015 1st round pick; we missed on our 2014 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 3rd round pick. The 2014-2015 draft classes have set this team back at least 5 years. A blind monkey could have thrown darts at the draft board and had more success. And we had BOB WOODS and he was !@#$ing CRAZY!
BringBackFergy Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 7:14 PM, bobobonators said: 1. We gave up a 2015 1st round pick and 2015 4th round pick to move up and get Watkins. He is gone 3yrs later and missed like 30% of his games. 2. Cyrus was our 2nd round pick in 2014. He is an abomination. 3. Our first pick in 2015 was 2nd round pick Darby. He is gone 2 years later. 4. Our 2nd pick in 2015, 3rd rounder John Miller, is barely a starter and may get beat out by Ducasse, who is horrible. 5. Our 3rd pick in 2015, 5th rounder Karlos Williams isn't even in the NFL anymore. So to recap: We missed on our 2014 1st round pick; we gave up our 2015 1st round pick; we missed on our 2014 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 3rd round pick. The 2014-2015 draft classes have set this team back at least 5 years. A blind monkey could have thrown darts at the draft board and had more success. On the bright side, if we didn't select Sammy, we were enamored with Eric Ebron. LOL, LOL
4_kidd_4 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 7:15 PM, Teeflebees said: We are seeing the results of cleaning up a previous regimes mess. Yep. I'm all for it, keep sweepin' it away!
Jerry Jabber Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 7:14 PM, bobobonators said: 1. We gave up a 2015 1st round pick and 2015 4th round pick to move up and get Watkins. He is gone 3yrs later and missed like 30% of his games. 2. Cyrus was our 2nd round pick in 2014. He is an abomination. 3. Our first pick in 2015 was 2nd round pick Darby. He is gone 2 years later. 4. Our 2nd pick in 2015, 3rd rounder John Miller, is barely a starter and may get beat out by Ducasse, who is horrible. 5. Our 3rd pick in 2015, 5th rounder Karlos Williams isn't even in the NFL anymore. So to recap: We missed on our 2014 1st round pick; we gave up our 2015 1st round pick; we missed on our 2014 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 3rd round pick. The 2014-2015 draft classes have set this team back at least 5 years. A blind monkey could have thrown darts at the draft board and had more success. Those bad drafts along with this are the reason why this team continually fails to produce a winner: https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/195696-ralph-set-this-team-back-with-his-trust-issues/
row_33 Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 7:23 PM, 4_kidd_4 said: Yep. I'm all for it, keep sweepin' it away! yup. A huge mess of Whaley Fans on the BBMB would scream he never had any decisions to make (and therefore no responsibility) his entire time at OBD, but gleefully gave him credit for the good things the he apparently arranged.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 Hello! @IanKenyonNFL What the bills are doing would make a lot more sense if they were trading aging vets instead of good 22-23 year old players
Jerry Jabber Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 7:25 PM, row_33 said: yup. A huge mess of Whaley Fans on the BBMB would scream he never had any decisions to make (and therefore no responsibility) his entire time at OBD, but gleefully gave him credit for the good things the he apparently arranged. Whaley was good at signing FA's, but was terrible with draft picks.
4merper4mer Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 7:14 PM, bobobonators said: 1. We gave up a 2015 1st round pick and 2015 4th round pick to move up and get Watkins. He is gone 3yrs later and missed like 30% of his games. 2. Cyrus was our 2nd round pick in 2014. He is an abomination. 3. Our first pick in 2015 was 2nd round pick Darby. He is gone 2 years later. 4. Our 2nd pick in 2015, 3rd rounder John Miller, is barely a starter and may get beat out by Ducasse, who is horrible. 5. Our 3rd pick in 2015, 5th rounder Karlos Williams isn't even in the NFL anymore. So to recap: We missed on our 2014 1st round pick; we gave up our 2015 1st round pick; we missed on our 2014 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 3rd round pick. The 2014-2015 draft classes have set this team back at least 5 years. A blind monkey could have thrown darts at the draft board and had more success.
BringBackFergy Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) On 8/28/2017 at 7:26 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Hello! @IanKenyonNFL What the bills are doing would make a lot more sense if they were trading aging vets instead of good 22-23 year old players Hogwash!!! Edited August 28, 2017 by BringBackFergy
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 7:14 PM, bobobonators said: 1. We gave up a 2015 1st round pick and 2015 4th round pick to move up and get Watkins. He is gone 3yrs later and missed like 30% of his games. 2. Cyrus was our 2nd round pick in 2014. He is an abomination. 3. Our first pick in 2015 was 2nd round pick Darby. He is gone 2 years later. 4. Our 2nd pick in 2015, 3rd rounder John Miller, is barely a starter and may get beat out by Ducasse, who is horrible. 5. Our 3rd pick in 2015, 5th rounder Karlos Williams isn't even in the NFL anymore. So to recap: We missed on our 2014 1st round pick; we gave up our 2015 1st round pick; we missed on our 2014 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 2nd round pick; we missed on our 2015 3rd round pick. The 2014-2015 draft classes have set this team back at least 5 years. A blind monkey could have thrown darts at the draft board and had more success. Let's not forget our 2013 first round pick. Those 4 drafts should have produced the cornerstones of the current team . They produced zero. This is a tear down / rebuild regardless of what the FO would like us to believe
EasternOHBillsFan Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 7:15 PM, Teeflebees said: We are seeing the results of cleaning up a previous regimes mess. Amen. Just gotta be patient as the rest of the dead wood is finally removed, like say Dareus.
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Posted August 28, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 7:26 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Hello! @IanKenyonNFL What the bills are doing would make a lot more sense if they were trading aging vets instead of good 22-23 year old players I would agree with this. Wouldn't it be easier to keep those players and figure out what to do with one guy( Dareus) in a year or so? I mean,MD is the reason why they are running a 4-3. Not an aging KW, not JH , heck not even SL. Essentially they are purging talent to keep Dareus as a 4-3 DT.
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