Larsen C ice shelf breaks off

[4merper4mer]

 

I guess those who dismissed "the earth is round" arguments due to the "infancy" of the science were right to be cautious also.

Communizing will fix everything,

[B-Man]

Dirk found that Nazi base back in 1999...........

[Deranged Rhino]

Dirk found that Nazi base back in 1999...........

[Tiberius]

Climate change will create a huge movement of people from the equator and coastal regions north and inland. The real immigration debate has not even begun yet

[Azalin]

Perhaps it's not climate change that led to the ice shelf coming off... rather, it was the result of ongoing archaeological excavations occurring under the ice in Antarctica since at least 2001:

 

http://exopolitics.org/discovery-of-flash-frozen-antarctica-civilization/

 

More:

http://exopolitics.org/visit-to-antarctica-confirms-discovery-of-flash-frozen-alien-civilization/

 

http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/archaeology/shock-claims-massive-ancient-civilisation-lies-frozen-deep-beneath-the-antarctic-ice-and-could-even-be-atlantis/news-story/433fc633f7ae122ef8a525013ecba97b

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4094706/Is-lost-city-Antarctica-Mysterious-dome-building-created-ancient-civilisation-bizarre-theory-claims.html

 

 

Let's not forget about the Piri Reis map, a Turkish map from 1513 that accurately depicts Antarctica without ice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map

 

Now, before you laugh this off, revisit the list of dignitaries that visited the frozen continent or sent expeditions:

 

*1938: Nazi expeditions, sponsored by Hess (deputy Fuhrer) and Goering (founder of the Luftwaffe and gestapo).

- This is a strange pairing since Hess and Goering hated each other. Hess was driven by his interest in the occult and esoteric so it makes sense he'd sponsor an expedition while Goering was not into any of that, he was a nuts and bolts practical man. For Goering to be involved this expedition had to be more than a humanities research visit.

 

*1947: Admiral Richard Byrd took a battalion of Marines and a fleet of ships to Antarctica on OPERATION HIGHJUMP for what was supposed to be a months long voyage which Byrd scuttled after only a few weeks after suffering the loss of ships, planes, and men - reportedly to attacks made from craft that came out of the sea.

- Interesting to note Byrd was taken to speak with some of the Nazis who went on the Antarctic voyage before he departed on his own to learn about the conditions they'd face (so there's a direct connection to the Nazi expeditions and Highjump).

- Byrd traveled with press, and gave one interview on the way back to the states to a paper in Chile wherein he made comments that the US needs to prepare for attacks coming from over the poles.

- Immediately upon his return, Byrd was censored and Highjump was classified. It's speculated he gave his interview to a Chilean newspaper on the way back to assure that some of the story made it to the public without breaking his secrecy oaths.

 

... So something of interest was/is going on down there. Enough to draw out the technological and esoteric leaders of the Nazi party, enough for the US to commit an armada and 4,000 Marines less than 24 months after the end of the war... but those are just the beginning of the odd visitors of late to the frozen continent. Consider who has visited since 2012:

 

* Juan Carlos of Spain

* Prince Henry

* John Kerry (on election day of 2016 - supposedly to study climate change... the US's head diplomat...)

* Patriarch Kirill III (head of the Russian Orthodox church) - went immediately after meeting with the Pope in Havana.

* Buzz Aldrin (who said he was "going to the launchpad" and then fell sick while in Antarctica and had to be hospitalized.)

 

Why all these people? Goering and Hess had no interest in climate change. It's also doubtful Kirill, Aldrin, Byrd, or Juan Carlos went there for climate change reasons... Kerry might have, but as SecState he could pick up the phone and get all the reports on climate change with analysis on his desk at Foggy Bottom within an hour, he wouldn't need to go personally... on election day of all days during the most contentious election in recent history. So why these people?

 

Could they have found something there? Something of major significance to world history, maybe of human origins, perhaps an ancient civilization, or maybe it was something of a technological nature - even an advanced one, or since Kerry was there perhaps it was something that required a diplomat "take me to your leader" kind of thing...

 

The problem here, of course, is this all starts with the Nazis - who made it their mission to not just study the occult and esoteric - but to seek it out and acquire relics. From the list of visitors and excursions - it seems like they may have actually found something.

 

 

 

It's probably not this... but it's far more entertaining to consider.

 

 

 

You left out Dr. William Dyer's calamitous 1931 expedition.

[row_33]

 

You left out Dr. William Dyer's calamitous 1931 expedition.

 

that was a story by Lovecraft, you aren't accusing the libs of using sci-fi horror fiction for their scientific findings, right?

[Deranged Rhino]

 

You left out Dr. William Dyer's calamitous 1931 expedition.

 

D'oh!

 

Great call.

[GoBills808]

Piri Reis map is no joke.

[LeGOATski]

Climate change will create a huge movement of people from the equator and coastal regions north and inland. The real immigration debate has not even begun yet

That's fine, as long as they talk English and don't steal mer jerb!!

[Deranged Rhino]

Piri Reis map is no joke.

 

I don't think it is. It's been proven with satellite imagery taken by NASA to be overwhelmingly accurate in depicting the shoreline of the continent.

 

If the map isn't a joke, then of course the next question is where did it come from? Was it passed down from a time when Antarctica was free from ice? That alone would suggest that humanity and civilization is MUCH older than mainstream anthropologists believe today. Or, was it passed down from... somewhere else?

 

While I'm having fun with my posts here (and I am), the odds of something game changing being discovered under the ice in Antarctica is probably pretty high - considering how much effort and treasure both the Nazis and the US military have spent on the continent since WW2.

 

Oh, a name I left off the list of recent visitors to the continent: Lockheed Martin.

 

Ponder on that what you will. We aren't allowed to test weapons in Antarctica, and LM is deeply tied to various black projects and high technology within the US MiC. Them being there, like Goering's involvement in the 1930s, hints that whatever they found down there is technological in nature rather than strictly archaeological.

[GoBills808]

 

I don't think it is. It's been proven with satellite imagery taken by NASA to be overwhelmingly accurate in depicting the shoreline of the continent.

 

If the map isn't a joke, then of course the next question is where did it come from? Was it passed down from a time when Antarctica was free from ice? That alone would suggest that humanity and civilization is MUCH older than mainstream anthropologists believe today. Or, was it passed down from... somewhere else?

 

While I'm having fun with my posts here (and I am), the odds of something game changing being discovered under the ice in Antarctica is probably pretty high - considering how much effort and treasure both the Nazis and the US military have spent on the continent since WW2.

 

Oh, a name I left off the list of recent visitors to the continent: Lockheed Martin.

 

Ponder on that what you will. We aren't allowed to test weapons in Antarctica, and LM is deeply tied to various black projects and high technology within the US MiC. Them being there, like Goering's involvement in the 1930s, hints that whatever they found down there is technological in nature rather than strictly archaeological.

It's not that hard for me to believe civilizations of the past had techniques for accomplishing what our tech does today, albeit probably at a much slower or less replicable way.

[Deranged Rhino]

It's not that hard for me to believe civilizations of the past had techniques for accomplishing what our tech does today, albeit probably at a much slower or less replicable way.

 

Meaning you believe it's possible ancient man had the ability to accurately map the coastline of a continent buried under 2 miles of ice? Or are you saying that it's not hard for you to believe that ancient civilizations were more technologically advanced than what we acknowledge?

 

I'd buy it was a map derived from ancient man if the history of civilization is older than mainstream academia acknowledges. I'm not sure I'd buy that the Ottomans were able to map the continent through two miles of ice in the 15th century.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.LhJpQBxKO_EyIK8yvXO5YQEsCr&pid=15.1

 

 

Meaning you believe it's possible ancient man had the ability to accurately map the coastline of a continent buried under 2 miles of ice? Or are you saying that it's not hard for you to believe that ancient civilizations were more technologically advanced than what we acknowledge?

 

I'd buy it was a map derived from ancient man if the history of civilization is older than mainstream academia acknowledges. I'm not sure I'd buy that the Ottomans were able to map the continent through two miles of ice in the 15th century.

[Deranged Rhino]

http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.LhJpQBxKO_EyIK8yvXO5YQEsCr&pid=15.1

 

 

In this case you don't need ET's if you buy into the idea that man has been on this planet for longer than we're told in our history books.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

In this case you don't need ET's if you buy into the idea that man has been on this planet for longer than we're told in our history books.

History books or the bible?

 

Sorry the devil made me do it.

[Deranged Rhino]

History books or the bible?

 

Sorry the devil made me do it.

[Mark80]

Perhaps it's not climate change that led to the ice shelf coming off... rather, it was the result of ongoing archaeological excavations occurring under the ice in Antarctica since at least 2001:

 

http://exopolitics.org/discovery-of-flash-frozen-antarctica-civilization/

 

More:

http://exopolitics.org/visit-to-antarctica-confirms-discovery-of-flash-frozen-alien-civilization/

 

http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/archaeology/shock-claims-massive-ancient-civilisation-lies-frozen-deep-beneath-the-antarctic-ice-and-could-even-be-atlantis/news-story/433fc633f7ae122ef8a525013ecba97b

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4094706/Is-lost-city-Antarctica-Mysterious-dome-building-created-ancient-civilisation-bizarre-theory-claims.html

 

 

Let's not forget about the Piri Reis map, a Turkish map from 1513 that accurately depicts Antarctica without ice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map

 

Now, before you laugh this off, revisit the list of dignitaries that visited the frozen continent or sent expeditions:

 

*1938: Nazi expeditions, sponsored by Hess (deputy Fuhrer) and Goering (founder of the Luftwaffe and gestapo).

- This is a strange pairing since Hess and Goering hated each other. Hess was driven by his interest in the occult and esoteric so it makes sense he'd sponsor an expedition while Goering was not into any of that, he was a nuts and bolts practical man. For Goering to be involved this expedition had to be more than a humanities research visit.

 

*1947: Admiral Richard Byrd took a battalion of Marines and a fleet of ships to Antarctica on OPERATION HIGHJUMP for what was supposed to be a months long voyage which Byrd scuttled after only a few weeks after suffering the loss of ships, planes, and men - reportedly to attacks made from craft that came out of the sea.

- Interesting to note Byrd was taken to speak with some of the Nazis who went on the Antarctic voyage before he departed on his own to learn about the conditions they'd face (so there's a direct connection to the Nazi expeditions and Highjump).

- Byrd traveled with press, and gave one interview on the way back to the states to a paper in Chile wherein he made comments that the US needs to prepare for attacks coming from over the poles.

- Immediately upon his return, Byrd was censored and Highjump was classified. It's speculated he gave his interview to a Chilean newspaper on the way back to assure that some of the story made it to the public without breaking his secrecy oaths.

 

... So something of interest was/is going on down there. Enough to draw out the technological and esoteric leaders of the Nazi party, enough for the US to commit an armada and 4,000 Marines less than 24 months after the end of the war... but those are just the beginning of the odd visitors of late to the frozen continent. Consider who has visited since 2012:

 

* Juan Carlos of Spain

* Prince Henry

* John Kerry (on election day of 2016 - supposedly to study climate change... the US's head diplomat...)

* Patriarch Kirill III (head of the Russian Orthodox church) - went immediately after meeting with the Pope in Havana.

* Buzz Aldrin (who said he was "going to the launchpad" and then fell sick while in Antarctica and had to be hospitalized.)

 

Why all these people? Goering and Hess had no interest in climate change. It's also doubtful Kirill, Aldrin, Byrd, or Juan Carlos went there for climate change reasons... Kerry might have, but as SecState he could pick up the phone and get all the reports on climate change with analysis on his desk at Foggy Bottom within an hour, he wouldn't need to go personally... on election day of all days during the most contentious election in recent history. So why these people?

 

Could they have found something there? Something of major significance to world history, maybe of human origins, perhaps an ancient civilization, or maybe it was something of a technological nature - even an advanced one, or since Kerry was there perhaps it was something that required a diplomat "take me to your leader" kind of thing...

 

The problem here, of course, is this all starts with the Nazis - who made it their mission to not just study the occult and esoteric - but to seek it out and acquire relics. From the list of visitors and excursions - it seems like they may have actually found something.

 

 

 

It's probably not this... but it's far more entertaining to consider.

 

 

 

Someone has been watching way too many Marvel movies lately.

[Deranged Rhino]

Someone has been watching way too many Marvel movies lately.

Or, is Marvel using film and escapism to disclose truths that are tough for most people to swallow?

 

Hmmmmmmmm

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

The Bible indicates the earth is 6,000 years old;

never mind

 

twas a poor jest

[Deranged Rhino]

The Bible indicates the earth is 6,000 years old;never mind

 

twas a poor jest

It's all good. I was just trying to track it

[Mark80]

Or, is Marvel using film and escapism to disclose truths that are tough for most people to swallow?

 

Hmmmmmmmm

 

Listen, I love me some conspiracy theories, trust me. I just don't see it in this one.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Listen, I love me some conspiracy theories, trust me. I just don't see it in this one.

[DC Tom]

 

Listen, I love me some conspiracy theories, trust me. I just don't see it in this one.

 

That just proves it's a government cover-up.

[Guffalo]

 

That just proves it's a government cover-up.

A well done one at that! I knew he would make America great again, now our cover-ups are even getting better.

[B-Man]

Is there a Larsen "A".........and "B" ?

Edited July 12, 2017 by B-Man

[Deranged Rhino]

 

That just proves it's a government cover-up.

 

Still having fun with this topic (for the record) - but you do have to admit the assorted list of recent visitors is odd.

 

* Kirill was there supposedly to bless an orthodox chapel - when literally anyone from the church could have done that job.

 

* Kerry chose the day of the most contentious election in recent history to go sight seeing.

 

* Buzz Aldrin made several space references on his trip, and some rumors (dubious ones, but again, we're having fun here) claim his sudden illness while visiting there was actually caused by his exposure to advanced technology.

 

* High Jump and the Nazi excursions themselves were strange and filled with unanswered questions (how did Byrd's armada really lose two ships, several planes and personnel - all to inclement weather?).

 

* Then there's all the pop-culture references to something hidden down there, from Cussler's book to the X-Files movie to Alien v Predator people have been telling stories about something hidden under the ice shelf for decades now. What's the old saying? Many a truth is said in jest...

 

* Lockheed's presence is interesting too because it's recent (only since 2011 they won a 2b bid to go there: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/press-releases/2011/december/1228-antartic-program.html), we can't test weapons on Antarctica based on treaties (though we could be violating them as we're so fond of doing), but besides weapons development, Lockheed specializes in secure communications and information storage... which you'd need if you really were doing top secret data collection down there on some sort of archaeological find. Of course you'd also probably find it useful if you're doing basic scientific research there as well... which several nations are... so...

 

It's all a big ball of crazy if you look at it from the surface.

 

But what's undeniable is that at some point in Earth's history the continent had no ice. If you subscribe to the belief that humans have been around for much longer than just 200,000 years (see guys like Graham Hancock's work for example) then it's certainly plausible that there once were settlements of some kind on Antarctica before it was covered in ice. The discovery of human settlements - even if they're primitive/ancient - under the ice would rewrite everything we know about our origins on this planet.

 

You wouldn't even need a giant conspiracy to get there, no ETs or Nazi bases... just simply the revelation that civilization did not begin in cradle of civilization would be paradigm shifting for numerous fields of study.

 

...Of course if that ancient human civilization were also more technologically advanced... well that'd be a different ball of crazy.

Edited July 12, 2017 by Deranged Rhino

[ExiledInIllinois]

Fake News!

[Azalin]

Is there a Larsen "A".........and "B" ?

 

There used to be a Larsen "E", but someone stole it.

[TakeYouToTasker]

 

There used to be a Larsen "E", but someone stole it.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DC Tom]

 

Still having fun with this topic (for the record) - but you do have to admit the assorted list of recent visitors is odd.

 

* Kirill was there supposedly to bless an orthodox chapel - when literally anyone from the church could have done that job.

 

* Kerry chose the day of the most contentious election in recent history to go sight seeing.

 

* Buzz Aldrin made several space references on his trip, and some rumors (dubious ones, but again, we're having fun here) claim his sudden illness while visiting there was actually caused by his exposure to advanced technology.

 

* High Jump and the Nazi excursions themselves were strange and filled with unanswered questions (how did Byrd's armada really lose two ships, several planes and personnel - all to inclement weather?).

 

* Then there's all the pop-culture references to something hidden down there, from Cussler's book to the X-Files movie to Alien v Predator people have been telling stories about something hidden under the ice shelf for decades now. What's the old saying? Many a truth is said in jest...

 

* Lockheed's presence is interesting too because it's recent (only since 2011 they won a 2b bid to go there: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/press-releases/2011/december/1228-antartic-program.html), we can't test weapons on Antarctica based on treaties (though we could be violating them as we're so fond of doing), but besides weapons development, Lockheed specializes in secure communications and information storage... which you'd need if you really were doing top secret data collection down there on some sort of archaeological find. Of course you'd also probably find it useful if you're doing basic scientific research there as well... which several nations are... so...

 

It's all a big ball of crazy if you look at it from the surface.

 

But what's undeniable is that at some point in Earth's history the continent had no ice. If you subscribe to the belief that humans have been around for much longer than just 200,000 years (see guys like Graham Hancock's work for example) then it's certainly plausible that there once were settlements of some kind on Antarctica before it was covered in ice. The discovery of human settlements - even if they're primitive/ancient - under the ice would rewrite everything we know about our origins on this planet.

 

You wouldn't even need a giant conspiracy to get there, no ETs or Nazi bases... just simply the revelation that civilization did not begin in cradle of civilization would be paradigm shifting for numerous fields of study.

 

...Of course if that ancient human civilization were also more technologically advanced... well that'd be a different ball of crazy.

 

Of course, we both know what they're hiding there...

 

There used to be a Larsen "E", but someone stole it.

 

[This is an automated response.]

 

 

Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.11.

[Doc Brown]

I hope man caused global warming is a hoax because the Bills need to keep that December home field advantage.

[DC Tom]

I hope man caused global warming is a hoax because the Bills need to keep that December home field advantage.

 

The Great Lakes are supposed to get colder and snowier under global warming, so you should be hoping it's true.

[row_33]

I hope man caused global warming is a hoax because the Bills need to keep that December home field advantage.

 

You mean January for weeks 16, 17, and the 2nd and 3rd round of the playoffs?

[Doc Brown]

 

The Great Lakes are supposed to get colder and snowier under global warming, so you should be hoping it's true.

 

Oh. Shows how much I know. LOL. I'm willing to sacrifice the future for a Bills Superbowl.

 

 

You mean January for weeks 16, 17, and the 2nd and 3rd round of the playoffs?

 

I was trying to be realistic. Week 17 is on December 31 this year.

[B-Man]

EPA’S PRUITT ASKS FOR TV CLIMATE DEBATE, Jon Gabriel writes at Ricochet:

 

The science may not be settled, but EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt wants it televised. He raised the idea of a TV climate change debate in

an interview with Reuters

:

“There are lots of questions that have not been asked and answered (about climate change),” EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt told Reuters in an interview late on Monday.

“Who better to do that than a group of scientists … getting together and having a robust discussion for all the world to see,” he added without explaining how the scientists would be chosen.

Asked if he thought the de

bate should be televised, Pruitt said: “I think so. I think so. I mean, I don’t know yet, but you want this to be open to the world. You want this to be on full display. I think the American people would be very interested in consuming that. I think they deserve it.”

 

 

 

We do deserve it, especially since every proposed solution involves raising our taxes, damaging our economy, and making citizens more submissive to federal and global bureaucracies.

 

 

 

Please make this happen — Pruitt will compile hours of potential footage for the Trump reelection campaign video b-roll. In addition to the smug condescension of haughty climate scientists speaking to Pruitt as if he’s Cletus The Slack-Jawed Yokel, the apocalyptic doomsday rhetoric and proposed solutions would be a riot.

 

I wonder if John Holdren, Obama’s “Science” “Czar,” could be invited to discuss eugenics (i.e. forced abortions and mass sterilization) and shooting rockets into the atmosphere filled with pollution to blot out the sun?

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/269857/

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

A well done one at that! I knew he would make America great again, now our cover-ups are even getting better.

 

 

Blaming trump for a chunk of ice.

[grinreaper]

 

The Great Lakes are supposed to get colder and snowier under global warming, so you should be hoping it's true.

But colder and snowier don't necessarily go together. All of us from WNY know that our abundance of snow is normally to do with an unfrozen Lake Erie. The sooner that puppy freezes the less likelihood of snow.

[Azalin]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Yeah, I deserve that. I deserve Tom's bot too.

 

But someone had to say it....

[Deranged Rhino]

 

There used to be a Larsen "E", but someone stole it.

 

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Yeah, I deserve that. I deserve Tom's bot too.

 

But someone had to say it....

 

It made me laugh too loud while walking out of a meeting

[TakeYouToTasker]

 

Yeah, I deserve that. I deserve Tom's bot too.

 

But someone had to say it....

My only regret is that my computer won't allow me to pelt you with rotten fruit via the internet.