BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I think this probably tells us Reid was behind the trade. The truth in Philly seemed to be the more powerful Andy got the less successful the team was. Chaos ensuing and a 2-14 season would be nice. I don't see it though. Or Dorsey was behind it and Andy doesn't like what he sees from mini camps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I wonder what Chiefs' coaching staff sees in Mahomes now that he's been in the camp with them and that had anything to do with this Dorsey move to trade for him. at the time I thought he gave up a lot for a QB who's quite RAW. He could be one of those "he's 2 years away from being ready in 2 years" Reid hates Mahomes, Jmagic sends condolences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Or Dorsey was behind it and Andy doesn't like what he sees from mini camps Hmm. Possible. Knowing Reid though I suspect mine is more likely. Underminging GMs on power grabs is part of his MO. He never wanted a GM in KC but they insisted after the mess of the final few years of his omnipotence in Philly. They got him a guy he picked to work with... I suspect Andy Reid pushed for Mahomes maybe even against Dorsey's advice and this was an inevitable conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I think this probably tells us Reid was behind the trade. The truth in Philly seemed to be the more powerful Andy got the less successful the team was. Chaos ensuing and a 2-14 season would be nice. I don't see it though. To God's ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Jeffismagic on the Chiefs board~ "Dorsey was let go because he and Andy Reid were at each other over the trade up for Mahomes. Reid wanted him and Dorsey did not. Reid wins out of course. He knows Mahomes is a future Pro Bowl caliber player. He will replace Alex Smith by year's end." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 To God's ears. With the Bills luck they'll win the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Hmm. Possible. Knowing Reid though I suspect mine is more likely. Underminging GMs on power grabs is part of his MO. He never wanted a GM in KC but they insisted after the mess of the final few years of his omnipotence in Philly. They got him a guy he picked to work with... I suspect Andy Reid pushed for Mahomes maybe even against Dorsey's advice and this was an inevitable conclusion. I don't doubt that, but I love the idea that we fleeced them for a bust of a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I think that it's possible that the Chiefs win about 6 or 7 games. They have made some baffling decisions this offseason. The margin for error in the NFL is small and if they ball doesn't continue to bounce their way we may reap the rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Didn't they let someone else go already from the FO as well? Mike Ballard left to become GM of the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 With the Bills luck they'll win the Super Bowl. Guess we will have to get the top pick another way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Mike Ballard left to become GM of the Colts. Chris Ballard. I think that it's possible that the Chiefs win about 6 or 7 games. They have made some baffling decisions this offseason. The margin for error in the NFL is small and if they ball doesn't continue to bounce their way we may reap the rewards. Could see that. Not sure I see any worse than that tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Chris Ballard. Yes, him too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Jeffismagic on the Chiefs board~ "Dorsey was let go because he and Andy Reid were at each other over the trade up for Mahomes. Reid wanted him and Dorsey did not. Reid wins out of course. He knows Mahomes is a future Pro Bowl caliber player. He will replace Alex Smith by year's end." Please tell me this is a joke....please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Jeffismagic on the Chiefs board~ "Dorsey was let go because he and Andy Reid were at each other over the trade up for Mahomes. Reid wanted him and Dorsey did not. Reid wins out of course. He knows Mahomes is a future Pro Bowl caliber player. He will replace Alex Smith by year's end." This can't be real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Did Jeff have an opinion? I don't remember..... Seems so long ago....yet not long enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Please tell me this is a joke....please. This can't be real? No, not real. It is a joke my friends, but it does sound just like something he would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 USA Today's Tom Pelissero reports one of the issues the Chiefs had with fired GM John Dorsey was his inability to get extensions with Justin Houston and Eric Berry done faster. Per Pelissero, the Chiefs believed the slowness "cost them more later." It makes sense on the surface, but that's hardly a rarity with blue-chip players. The delay in Berry's case seemed more questionable than the delay in Houston's. The national media is reporting widespread shock at Dorsey's abrupt departure. The Chiefs are clearly comfortable with Andy Reid being the brains of the operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 You don't think Reid didn't have a major say in drafting Mahomes? And if he turns into a franchise qb, it was a great trade. If not, it was a bad trade. I think he is in a perfect situation for a young qb. Time will tell. IMO he had THE say. Trade isn't made without him wanting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) You don't think Reid didn't have a major say in drafting Mahomes? And if he turns into a franchise qb, it was a great trade. If not, it was a bad trade. I think he is in a perfect situation for a young qb. Time will tell. No actually, I personally don't think Reid had nearly as much of a want of Mahomes as most people think. KC is already competing for division titles and AFC Championships. You think Reid would rather trade 2 high draft picks in a very deep and talented draft, considered the deepest in a decade, and also another first rounder next year...3 potentially good players to add to a contending team...for a QB who likely wont really help the team for 2 to 3 years? Not to mention, that QB needs to have his footwork and mechanics rebuilt for him to really have a shot of being a long term starter in this league. Reality is that even if Mahomes pans out, its going to take 3 to 4 years from now to know because he wont play this year and may or may not play next year. And once he does play, its going to likely take 2 to 3 years on the field for his play to grow to lead that team to a SB. Reid may not even be the HC by then. So yes, I find it hard to believe that if Reid alone was making the decision that he would take project QB over 3 high draft picks who could have maybe got him over the top and into the SB, something he has never won. PS: Not saying Mahomes is going to bust or not...you asked about what I think about Reid's preference and I find it hard to believe Reid prefers Mahomes over 2 first round picks and a 3rd (from a very good draft) while his team is a title contender and had some holes to fill. Edited June 23, 2017 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) jeez Chiefs were so close to being a contender but it seems like they are imploding. and we're reaping the benefits... reference:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWk6JcheLMU you're assuming an awful lot here Edited June 23, 2017 by inaugural balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts