Chandler#81 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 On NFLR, per Wild Bill, if Dareus doesn't play well and off field 'issue-free', he's outta here. He added that with the high cost of Watkins (losing a #1) when they (we) could have had Beckham staying at our spot, the EJ fiasco and Marcell all recent 1st Round pick misses, is the reason we're where we are today. To Marcell, I agree with Big Red. He has shown spectacular play at times, but keeping him on the field and committed has been a real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 No problem with this at all. Time to end excuses and dominate. next suspension is 10 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 On NFLR, per Wild Bill, if Dareus doesn't play well and off field 'issue-free', he's outta here. He added that with the high cost of Watkins (losing a #1) when they (we) could have had Beckham staying at our spot, the EJ fiasco and Marcell all recent 1st Round pick misses, is the reason we're where we are today. To Marcell, I agree with Big Red. He has shown spectacular play at times, but keeping him on the field and committed has been a real problem. Yep. But his struggle seemed to start when his brother was killed the year after he was drafted. It was a great pick at the time and he was great from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 This is a new Bills team we will see now. No nonsense and no excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 it believe the correct terminology is, 'shape up or ship out'. someone *might want to fix the thread title. ... He added that with the high cost of Watkins (losing a #1) when they (we) could have had Beckham staying at our spot, the EJ fiasco and Marcell all recent 1st Round pick misses, is the reason we're where we are today. ... well, don't know that i agree with that. the reason we are where we are at today is because we hired wRecks and his scheme when we were built for a 4-3 scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 it believe the correct terminology is, 'shape up or ship out'. someone *might want to fix the thread title. Duly noted, but that's what Bill -who's no linguistic artist- said. I'm sure that's what he meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 it believe the correct terminology is, 'shape up or ship out'. someone *might want to fix the thread title. Use of the term by Polian might have something to do with the Dareus sailor's hat... http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2016/0726/dm_160726_Dareus_Bills_Rex_Ryan/dm_160726_Dareus_Bills_Rex_Ryan.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Marcell DEAD MONEY: 2017 - $38.3 mil 2018 - $22.2 mil 2019 - $7.8 mil 2020 - $1.4 mil Dareus QUIT on his teamies.... like Mario.....just in a different way. drug suspension, out of shape.... i'd say it's about 75% likely he gets suspended again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Use of the term by Polian might have something to do with the Dareus sailor's hat... http://a.espncdn.com/media/motion/2016/0726/dm_160726_Dareus_Bills_Rex_Ryan/dm_160726_Dareus_Bills_Rex_Ryan.jpg good point. ship up or shape out then! dammnit!! Edited May 24, 2017 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I just hope this new "all star" front office doesn't build a team full of Chris Kelsey's. At some point actual talent is needed, not just a bunch of "lunch pail"/"high motor" slow lighter skinned guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Marcel is going to ball out this year and the best player Defensive player in the AFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Marcel is going to ball out this year and the best player Defensive player in the AFC. He kind of has to for the numbers to make any sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I think they are both great players, but need to start/keep producing. Watkins needs to stay healthy and get targets and dareus needs to stay motivated and give 100%. Hopefully the new coaching staff can bring out the best of both of them making them the star players they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Yep. But his struggle seemed to start when his brother was killed the year after he was drafted. It was a great pick at the time and he was great from the start. wouldn't want to go thru what Dareus has gone through. all the death in his close family at such an early age..... we forget these are young 20 something kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 On NFLR, per Wild Bill, if Dareus doesn't play well and off field 'issue-free', he's outta here. He added that with the high cost of Watkins (losing a #1) when they (we) could have had Beckham staying at our spot, the EJ fiasco and Marcell all recent 1st Round pick misses, is the reason we're where we are today. To Marcell, I agree with Big Red. He has shown spectacular play at times, but keeping him on the field and committed has been a real problem. I know the serial apologists will have problems with this but I like it. I don't know, but I get the sense that we actually have a real organization beginning from the top that we haven't seen in quite some time. It's time to hold everyone accountable, even the stars of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 On NFLR, per Wild Bill, if Dareus doesn't play well and off field 'issue-free', he's outta here. He added that with the high cost of Watkins (losing a #1) when they (we) could have had Beckham staying at our spot, the EJ fiasco and Marcell all recent 1st Round pick misses, is the reason we're where we are today. To Marcell, I agree with Big Red. He has shown spectacular play at times, but keeping him on the field and committed has been a real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I just hope this new "all star" front office doesn't build a team full of Chris Kelsey's. At some point actual talent is needed, not just a bunch of "lunch pail"/"high motor" slow lighter skinned guys. Dareus is part of the 1% er's......i'm sure the bills can find talent in the other 99% using the 2014 NFL season as a reference.....31 players won’t be playing in their team’s opening game due to suspensions for either substance abuse, use of performance-enhancing substances, personal conduct or an on-field violation, Greg Aiello, a spokesman for the NFL, told The Washington Post. Those 31 players account for 1.1 percent of all 2,880 NFL players who reported to playing camp. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/09/04/31-nfl-players-are-suspended-but-its-still-a-lower-percentage-than-those-in-congress-under-investigation/?utm_term=.1142c1c08eee he quit.....the chances of him making a pro bowl again.....about 10%...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 it believe the correct terminology is, 'shape up or ship out'. someone *might want to fix the thread title. well, don't know that i agree with that. the reason we are where we are at today is because we hired wRecks and his scheme when we were built for a 4-3 scheme. BP acknowledged this as well for another contributing factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I just hope this new "all star" front office doesn't build a team full of Chris Kelsey's. At some point actual talent is needed, not just a bunch of "lunch pail"/"high motor" slow lighter skinned guys. for those worried about passing on troubled talent PRO BOWL players picked after Dareus in 2011 #4 - aj green #5- patrick peterson #6- julio jones #9 - tyron smith #11- jj watt #15 - mike pouncy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 the message delivered to the team by allowing Dareus to come and go as he pleases is the real damage. He appears to be lacking intelligence, has lied to the team, his teammates and the fans, and has faced discipline from the team and the league and still is here. Polian is wrong on this one...no more chances regardless of the financial effect. When you pay him he is not here half the time in any event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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