KellyToughII Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 This is a new Bills team we will see now. No nonsense and no excuses. And I love it. Other Orgs. Most likely wouldn't have put up with this BS this long, but they wouldn't have given him that huge extension either. Rex was wasting Darius . In this d Darius should be excellent. As for the off the field stuff. They are all minor infractions the typical you adults do. The nfl holds thier players to a higher standard . Hopefully Darius learns this. on the other hand the Nfl should take a hard look at how silly it is to ban Weed and let the players use some hard core pain killers . Rex had nothing to do with his off the field issues. That is part of the ship up part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I have heard this (or the opposite) said about several players on our team already. I am curious what you know about our new D that leads you to make this statement. Are there previous players like Dareus, who have had success in the system, a previous similar scheme he has thrived in, etc.? Â I don't think anybody "knows" about our new D or the new coaching staff, except that they figure they can do better with what they've got than Rex Ryan, who was supposed to be a defensive genius, did. The Bills defense seriously under-performed during his two years here, especially last season. They were outright putrid last year -- almost as ineffective as they'd been under Chan Gailey despite a whole lot more talent -- and could never come up with the big play when they needed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Dareus is not going anywhere for atleast 2 seasons. Too much dead money to let him go after 2017. They can get out after 2018 Make him a June 1st designation and he can and will be gone. Sometimes you gotta take the short term hit for the long term results. I am praying this is the year he matures, grows up and becomes a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I said "outside TBD". Show me a list of top five interior linemen that included Dareus. i think he even led the league in sacks from a lineman a few years ago. at the time he certainly was the right pick. he just hasn't lived up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Make him a June 1st designation and he can and will be gone. Sometimes you gotta take the short term hit for the long term results. I am praying this is the year he matures, grows up and becomes a leader.Even with a June 1 designation his dead money after 2017 would be $11.1 against 2018 cap and another $11.1 against 2019. They will not release him after 2017. It will not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 You don't see where a scenario where he could get suspended again? I wonder if you thought the same thing about Josh Gordon, Blackmon, Bryant and on and on we go. 99 is a high risk and it isn't even debatable. Â What does Dareus's mistakes have to do with any Joe Blow's screw ups? He is paid handsomely to perform and hasn't done much of it since inking a huge deal. With big checks comes big responsibility. Â Â he'll be fine. it will be the stingiest naysayers that hopefully will be the happiest that he turned the corner. myself, I'm looking forward to his contribution to the defense and helping to lead them back to respectable form. Â have a nice day...GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Â You know that I respect your take as always; I just can't get with that thought process. We simply don't have the benefit of hindsight when drafting guys. Â Now, I suppose there's an argument to be made that the team should've had a better feel for the kid's mentality before drafting him, but again, without being inside the process, we don't know what information was or wasn't available to them at the time. Â Â That would be funny, but the art of team-building is knowing how to handle different personalities. Maybe Dareus will respond to the hardline approach, and maybe he won't. My impression of him is that you need to strike a balance between letting him know you support him 100%, while also making the expectations of him clear. Â Dareus had his best years with Pepper Johnson (a hardcore no-nonsense coach) and Schwartz (the buddy type coach). Maybe that was the balance he needed: Pepper on him 24/7 but the top boss on his side of the ball patting him on the back and giving him some props. Â You try telling Pepper that you're not into working today... LOL Edited May 24, 2017 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Â Dareus had his best years with Pepper Johnson (a hardcore no-nonsense coach) and Schwartz (the buddy type coach). Maybe that was the balance he needed: Pepper on him 24/7 but the top boss on his side of the ball patting him on the back and giving him some props. Â So maybe Wauffle and Frazier will be the right combination for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Â So maybe Wauffle and Frazier will be the right combination for him? Â Could very well be. That was what I meant to include in the post above! Â You've got the nutty drill sergeant DL coach to be all over him and the DC to smooth things over. Â It's the perfect mix. The HC also seems like a soft spoken guy who is demanding but leaves the intense in your face stuff to selected assistants. IMO it works best that way. Â I like the direction this staff is going. Edited May 24, 2017 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Dareus is done in 2 seasons like Haynesworth. He doesn't show the commitment to his body or love of the game to stick around in his 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Â Dareus had his best years with Pepper Johnson (a hardcore no-nonsense coach) and Schwartz (the buddy type coach). Maybe that was the balance he needed: Pepper on him 24/7 but the top boss on his side of the ball patting him on the back and giving him some props. Â You try telling Pepper that you're not into working today... LOL Â The Good Cop/Bad Cop act is a proven formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 This is a new Bills team we will see now. No nonsense and no excuses.  try to minimize it  helps when the coach and staff isn't providing 98% of the nonsense and excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Dareus is done in 2 seasons like Haynesworth. He doesn't show the commitment to his body or love of the game to stick around in his 30s. Â this is just your opinion and not a fact and likely wont transpire as you believe it will...which will be a good thing since chances are more likely he will be a force for some time to come. just my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Â The Good Cop/Bad Cop act is a proven formula. Good cop/ Bad cop might work if the player in question had a contract that took money out of his pocket if suspended....that's not the case here. There is nothing...absolutely nothing that will light a fire under his lard ass. If he gets suspended again, he still collects dough. Thanks "Whales"...great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Â this is just your opinion and not a fact and likely wont transpire as you believe it will...which will be a good thing since chances are more likely he will be a force for some time to come. just my opinion of course. Â Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 (edited) Good cop/ Bad cop might work if the player in question had a contract that took money out of his pocket if suspended....that's not the case here. There is nothing...absolutely nothing that will light a fire under his lard ass. If he gets suspended again, he still collects dough. Thanks "Whales"...great work. Â Â funny you call him a lard ass. actually it's not funny but considering the source, some jock on a message board, it's to be expected... Edited May 24, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Â Â funny you call him a lard ass. actually it's not funny but considering the source, some jock on a message board, to be expected... Sorry...Captain Lard Ass. Â (I forgot about the Captain's hat.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 No problem with this at all. Time to end excuses and dominate. next suspension is 10 games. Â NFL needs to cut the BS and just make it 16 games for the next suspension. He already had a 1 game, then a 4 game. A player shouldn't need anymore of a wake up call than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Well, pencil me in for Dareus having a great year. I believe when he is used correctly and can attack the QB he is one of the top DT's in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I have zero issues with Dareus's on field performance. I am not a fan of his off field but as long as he doesn't get suspended or arrested I don't care if he wears a sailors hat or goes clubbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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