DOJ Appoints Robert Mueller as Special Counsel - Jerome Corsi Rejects Plea Deal

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Closed door hearing happening now. Got a good ear in the room, waiting to hear what the strategy was on G-Pap's part and who is there (no Ds were there at the start, that might have changed as the hearing went on)

[LeviF]

The date is October 25, 2018.  It is 12:04pm in Washington, D.C.

 

Donald J. Trump has been president for 1 year, 277 days, 23 hours, and 17 minutes.

 

Still waiting on that impeachment.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

So, David Corn who is complicit in the dossier's compilation and dissemination, is trying to change history - and getting crucified for it on Twitter. 

 

A smattering: 

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

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https://www.theepochtimes.com/end-in-sight-for-mueller-probe-with-no-evidence-of-trump-collusion-found-so-far_2699718.html

[DC Tom]

31 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

So, David Corn who is complicit in the dossier's compilation and dissemination, is trying to change history - and getting crucified for it on Twitter. 

 

A smattering: 

 

 

 

 

 

It figures this great big pile of ***** would have corn in it.

[Deranged Rhino]

Now Seth is getting into the G-Pap mix, and proving how badly he's tried to lie and twist this narrative. 

 

 

Original post he was responding to: 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

My imagination is pretty vivid, George. And the facts I've already uncovered, and testimony I've heard, lead me to conclude it's really ***** bad. 

 

 

[Koko78]

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

My imagination is pretty vivid, George. And the facts I've already uncovered, and testimony I've heard, lead me to conclude it's really ***** bad.

 

The question being bad for whom? Also, are the bad actors actually going to face any serious repercussions, or will they just be quietly swept under the rug in the name of national unity?

[Deranged Rhino]

3 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

The question being bad for whom? Also, are the bad actors actually going to face any serious repercussions, or will they just be quietly swept under the rug in the name of national unity?

 

Just my take, but trying to sweep it under the rug will only escalate the tensions and divide. There's too much evidence and information in the public sphere for that to work. The only way we truly heal is to drag this all into the sunlight and let that be the best disinfectant. It's been a few hundred pages since I've rung this bell, but remember that the FISA abuse/targeting/blackmail we're discussing here wasn't a one-off. It wasn't even confined to one administration, let alone one election. 

 

Justice, not revenge, is the only way we can go forward as a nation. That means actual prosecutions, with transparency, of a lot of high profile people. The message must be sent this can never, ever, be allowed to happen again. 

Edited October 26, 2018 by Deranged Rhino

[Chimp]

5 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

The question being bad for whom? Also, are the bad actors actually going to face any serious repercussions, or will they just be quietly swept under the rug in the name of national unity?

Man I certainly hope not.  Sweeping it under the rug will not unify this country.  We need to see them punished harshly.  Justice has to prevail before the righteous indignation of one side be be eased.  Justice prevailing would also help to put the other side back in check for now.

[Koko78]

Time will tell, and I hope both of you are correct.

 

I just don't see more than a few token prosecutions, with the big fish being given a pass if they go gentle into that good night.

[Deranged Rhino]

OPSEC: (OPerations SECurity) Determining what information is publicly available in the normal course of operations that can be used by a competitor or enemy to its advantage. OPSEC is a common military practice that is also applied to civilian projects such as the development of new products and technologies.

The Official Definition
(From JP 1-02, Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms, www.dtic.mil/doctrine/new_pubs/jp1_02.pdf.) Operations security (OPSEC) is a process of identifying critical information and subsequently analyzing friendly actions attendant to military operations and other activities to: (a) identify those operations that can be observed by adversary intelligence systems; (b) determine what indicators adversary intelligence systems might obtain that could be interpreted or pieced together to derive critical information in time to be useful to adversaries; and (c) select and execute measures that eliminate or reduce to an acceptable level the vulnerabilities of friendly actions to adversary exploitation. See DOD cyberspace glossary and DOD intelligence glossary.

 

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This has been an airtight operation. From top to bottom. 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/25/john-huber-fbi-justice-department-probe-shrouded-m/

 

"Mr. Sessions secretly picked Mr. Huber last fall to dig into whether the FBI misused its power when it obtained a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant to monitor former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. He also is supposed to be reviewing whether the FBI mishandled investigations into 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

 

Mr. Sessions didn’t reveal the appointment until the spring, when he was under pressure to name a special counsel to investigate those issues. He said there was no need for such a step because the department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, was already looking into the matters. He also revealed that Mr. Huber, the U.S. attorney in Utah, was performing his own evaluation.

 

The benefit of Mr. Huber, the Justice Department said, is that as a U.S. attorney he could use grand jury subpoena powers to obtain documents and witness statements that the inspector general might not."

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

14 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

My imagination is pretty vivid, George. And the facts I've already uncovered, and testimony I've heard, lead me to conclude it's really ***** bad. 

 

 

He was on Fox this morning saying he has a new attorney and is considering withdrawing his guilty plea as it was a set-up (which people knew, so apparently it can now be proven?). 

[boyst]

I'm still waiting for this bomb to be delivered.  

[GG]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

He was on Fox this morning saying he has a new attorney and is considering withdrawing his guilty plea as it was a set-up (which people knew, so apparently it can now be proven?). 

 

How can he withdraw his plea after he's already been sentenced?

[Buffalo_Gal]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

 

How can he withdraw his plea after he's already been sentenced?

And served it!

To answer your question, I have no idea. But, I am not an attorney and do not play one on the internet.

[Foxx]

17 minutes ago, GG said:

 

How can he withdraw his plea after he's already been sentenced?

 

13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

And served it!

To answer your question, I have no idea. But, I am not an attorney and do not play one on the internet.

you can have a conviction overturned. you might not get redress but you certainly can have it overturned. it goes to integrity and of course, ones legal record.

[Deranged Rhino]

19 minutes ago, GG said:

 

How can he withdraw his plea after he's already been sentenced?

 

That I don't know. But he could have the mark expunged/removed if exculpatory evidence emerges. Koko and the other attorneys might know better. 

[GG]

7 minutes ago, Foxx said:

 

you can have a conviction overturned. you might not get redress but you certainly can have it overturned. it goes to integrity and of course, ones legal record.

 

Yes, a conviction can be overturned on appeal, etc.  But how can one withdraw a plea after serving the sentence.

 

Perhaps he got the terminology wrong.

[DC Tom]

40 minutes ago, GG said:

 

How can he withdraw his plea after he's already been sentenced?

 

He can petition the trial judge to withdraw his plea post-sentence, but it's a long shot.  About the only argument he has is if he waived the right to appeal as part of his plea, so that he has no other redress but having the plea withdrawn.

 

He can't just withdraw it unilaterally post-sentencing, though.  

[Koko78]

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

That I don't know. But he could have the mark expunged/removed if exculpatory evidence emerges. Koko and the other attorneys might know better. 

 

Without caring enough to look at the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, I would guess that he would have to appeal his conviction on actual innocence/law enforcement misconduct grounds.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Pleading to a lesser charge has long been the play in America. It helps everyone except those that are innocent of said accusation and those that are victims of a crime (ie, the prosecutor's conviction rate for re-election, the defense attorney with few hours to put toward a competent defense, the guilty who get out early, etc). Sucky as it may be, he's not changing that.

Now pleading to a lesser charge (or even being charged!) when you were set-up? Yeah, that should not happen. Ever. 

[Nanker]

Maybe he's going to start civil suits against the blue suits that set him up and gave him the old film-flam-jimmy-jammy. 

[Deranged Rhino]

PB flipped earlier than anyone else, as we covered long ago in this thread. 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

He just keeeeeps talking... 

 

Edited October 28, 2018 by Deranged Rhino

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

So, checking in to see if any evidence of russian collusion on the 2016 election's been found yet.

 

Anything?

 

[Deranged Rhino]

3 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

So, checking in to see if any evidence of russian collusion on the 2016 election's been found yet.

 

Anything?

 

 

There's one... but no one wants to talk about it: 

[B-Man]

WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED SO FAR [WITH REPORT]

Much (if not most) of what we have learned about the real scandals and true Russian collusion underlying the 2016 presidential election derives directly or indirectly from the dogged work of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes and his Republican colleagues on the committee. In recognition of his efforts, Rep. Nunes has been punished by the dross of April Doss and others soldiering in the Democrat/Media complex. Rep. Nunes deserves some kind of award for service to the republic such as a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

 

In his October 21 Washington Examiner column Byron York took a look back on what we have learned so far thanks to Nunes and colleagues including Trey Gowdy, John Ratcliffe, Bob Goodlatte, Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows:

 

• The important role that the incendiary allegations in the still-unverified Trump dossier played in the FBI’s investigation of the Trump campaign.

 

• The fact that the dossier was commissioned and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party.

 

• The unusual circumstances surrounding the formal beginning of the FBI’s counter-intelligence investigation into the Trump campaign.

 

• The troubling deficiencies in the FBI’s application for the FISA warrant and renewals to wiretap onetime Trump campaign figure Carter Page.

 

• The anti-Trump bias of some of the top officials in the FBI investigation.

 

• The degree to which the dossier’s allegations spread throughout the Obama administration during the final days of the 2016 campaign and the transition.

 

• Obama officials’ unmasking of Trump-related figures in intelligence intercepts.

 

• The fact that FBI agents did not believe Michael Flynn lied to them in the interview that later led to Flynn’s guilty plea on a charge of lying to the FBI.

 

• The role of the opposition research firm Fusion GPS in the Trump-Russia probe.

 

• Nunes and his colleagues learned these things, and told the public about them, over the determined opposition of the FBI, the Justice Department, and Democrats, both on the Intelligence Committee and in the larger House.

 

• In fact…the FBI and Justice Department fiercely resisted the investigation. They withheld materials, dragged their feet, and flat-out refused to provide information to which congressional overseers were clearly entitled. Sometimes disputes were settled by the intervention of House Speaker Paul Ryan on Nunes’ behalf. Sometimes they weren’t.

 

• Nunes and the others performed a public service by investigating something no one else was investigating. The Senate Intelligence Committee conducted the big, bipartisan, flagship congressional probe into the Trump-Russia matter. Special counsel Robert Mueller, with full law enforcement powers, investigated Russian meddling, whether any Trump people were involved, and the question of whether the president attempted to obstruct the investigation.

 

• No one wanted to investigate the investigators, even though their conduct cried out for scrutiny.

 

• The work is not yet done. These days, a joint group from the House Judiciary and Oversight committees is conducting interviews with several figures in the Trump-Russia matter. In addition, Nunes and other Republicans are still urging President Trump to release additional parts of the Carter Page surveillance application that they say will be contain new revelations.

 

• None of this has been bipartisan. The work has been done by Republicans and opposed by Democrats. And if Democrats win control of the House, as a number of polls suggest they will do, it will stop immediately.

 

 

More at the link: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/10/what-we-have-learned-so-far.php

[Deranged Rhino]

28 minutes ago, B-Man said:

• None of this has been bipartisan. The work has been done by Republicans and opposed by Democrats. And if Democrats win control of the House, as a number of polls suggest they will do, it will stop immediately.

 

 

More at the link: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/10/what-we-have-learned-so-far.php

 

Small point: They'd have until January 3rd before it stops. They're ready to drop their reports, they won't need more time than that (I hope). 

[Warren Zevon]

https://hillreporter.com/special-counsel-alerts-fbi-of-scheme-to-pay-women-to-accuse-mueller-of-sexual-assault-12207?utm_source=Ed&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=HR

 

Special Counsel Alerts FBI Of Scheme To Pay Women To Accuse Mueller Of Sexual Assault

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, peace out said:

https://hillreporter.com/special-counsel-alerts-fbi-of-scheme-to-pay-women-to-accuse-mueller-of-sexual-assault-12207?utm_source=Ed&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=HR

 

Special Counsel Alerts FBI Of Scheme To Pay Women To Accuse Mueller Of Sexual Assault

 

That's a move that's part of the DNC playbook, as we saw with Kavanaugh...

 

Mueller's report must be terrible for them.

[Albwan]

35 minutes ago, peace out said:

https://hillreporter.com/special-counsel-alerts-fbi-of-scheme-to-pay-women-to-accuse-mueller-of-sexual-assault-12207?utm_source=Ed&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=HR

 

Special Counsel Alerts FBI Of Scheme To Pay Women To Accuse Mueller Of Sexual Assault

SIgh... here we go npcs non stop parroting that Trump is personally responsible for this

for the next 24 hours. This stuff is getting dull.

[snafu]

It is like watching a Wyle E. Coyote, or a Tom & Jerry cartoon.

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[DC Tom]

8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

No, he referred the accusation to the appropriate authorities.  He did not investigate them himself.  That tweet is completely inaccurate.  

 

The proper analogy would be if the agents doing Kavanaugh's background check also did a criminal investigation into the accusations against him.  Which they didn't do, for the same reason Mueller didn't investigate these claims: conflict of interest.

[Koko78]

15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

What "judicial powers" does this guy think Kavanaugh had as a DC Circuit Judge?