Koko78 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Pardon Flynn, commute Stone's sentence (imo) It's too early to pardon General Flynn. The case needs to play itself out, if for no other reason than to continue to expose the corruption that continues to go on within the DOJ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Thread for consideration. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Koko78 said: Holy schiff. That's pretty egregious misconduct, if true. ...counselor, I'm assuming that calls for a retrial are a bit premature.....wouldn't the conviction have to be appealed, hoping the assigned Court of Appeals overturns the conviction and orders a new trial?...even if the appeal is denied, DOJ can take the original sentencing recommendation and lower it with a Judge being the decision maker, correct?........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...counselor, I'm assuming that calls for a retrial are a bit premature.....wouldn't the conviction have to be appealed, hoping the assigned Court of Appeals overturns the conviction and orders a new trial?...even if the appeal is denied, DOJ can take the original sentencing recommendation and lower it with a Judge being the decision maker, correct?........... Hard to say, I don't know the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure that well. If it were a NY case, a motion could be made directly to the trial court to vacate the conviction based upon juror misconduct (and subsequently made part of an appeal if denied.) Not sure if the Federal Courts allow for something similar, or require the issue be raised on direct appeal. As for sentencing, the judge alone makes that call. In fact, the federal rules specifically prohibit judges from having any type of conference with the prosecutor and defense attorney regarding sentence, even as part of plea negotiations. Judges can (and do) consider recommendations from both sides, but they alone make the call. That's why I think the idiots flipping out over Trump's tweets are hilarious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Obama Interposed His Opinion in Hillary Clinton Case While Investigation Was Ongoing, But Democrats Said Nothing Democrats have been flipping out over President Donald Trump’s tweets commenting on the sentencing of Roger Stone, saying he thought the sentence was excessive. Let’s stipulate up front that this is not something that presidents should be doing as it tends to make it look like you’re politicizing things, even when you are not. But let’s also stipulate that it’s the Democrats who have politicized this six ways to Sunday, not Trump and that they didn’t give a darn when Obama said and did far worse. More at the link; . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Roger Stone And The Biased Juror. Devin Nunes hints that Robert Mueller’s team will be exposed soon. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (goes here too) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 This is 44 min long, but a full sit down with Nunes on a slew of topics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 When will Mueller be tried for perjury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: . That's fantastic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 This has been going on for several weeks now, over a month and a half. No leaks. Til yesterday: 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 (goes here too) Who are all those unnamed FBI agents? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: (goes here too) Who are all those unnamed FBI agents? The case against McCabe was dropped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Taro T said: The case against McCabe was dropped? Expect them all to skate. It’s the norm. But if you are God for bid associated with Trump, you get life in prison. Justic is laughably bad in the political specter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Taro T said: The case against McCabe was dropped? Maybe just part of it. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Maybe just part of it. Time will tell. It has a lot of people thinking that everyone involved in this mess is gonna skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 TONY KATZ: There Is No Roger Stone Firestorm. There’s Just Angry Democrats. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 9 hours ago, njbuff said: It has a lot of people thinking that everyone involved in this mess is gonna skate. Really? Whooda thunk it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, njbuff said: It has a lot of people thinking that everyone involved in this mess is gonna skate. People have speculated that either he worked a deal or a DC grand jury refused to indict him. If he worked a deal, that means they went after bigger fish (although McCabe is a pretty big fish, IMO). If the DC grand jury refused to indict with him being on tape lying his ass off, that does not bode well for indictments for anyone involved in this soft-coup. Edited February 15, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 The Roger Stone sentencing kerfuffle is now playing among the Democrats and their mainstream media adjunct. Based on what we have learned so far, former prosecutor George Parry’s account of the matter is the one that is most to my taste. Parry addresses it in column “Flight of the drama queens” (the link goes to the column as posted at Parry’s site). Parry puts the affair in the context of Team Mueller: [T]he fact remains that Team Mueller existed — in Weissmann’s words — to “get rid of” Donald Trump. Given that goal, the filing of this surprise and overblown sentencing memorandum by the Team Mueller holdovers and their prompt, unnecessary, and dramatic resignations should be understood as a last, desperate effort by the rear guard of the defunct Special Counsel’s Office to bring the president, Attorney General William Barr, and the Justice Department into disrepute. Put another way, this whole stunt is nothing more than a choreographed two-act political melodrama in which the Team Mueller holdovers filed their overhyped, unauthorized sentencing memorandum and then followed up with a grand jeté exit stage left to a shower of bouquets and bravos from an adoring Democrat and mainstream media audience. Attorney General William Barr has been summoned to testify before Congress about these matters, and, unsurprisingly, there have even been calls for his impeachment. The apparent premise for Barr’s removal is that the Justice Department, acting under his direction, may not make a sentencing recommendation that contradicts to any degree that of the Team Mueller holdovers even though the entirely reasonable contradictory memorandum recommends incarceration and explicitly leaves the sentence entirely up to the judge. And, as for Trump, even though he is the nation’s chief law enforcement officer, apparently he isn’t allowed to criticize either the fishy-smelling Stone prosecution or the work of the sacrosanct Team Mueller. All of this is just the kind of fake pretextual material that the deranged Democrats and their mainstream media amen corner may use to gin up yet another feverish round of impeachment. Team Mueller was of course the team for which the press was rooting, or playing for. The mission survives the team. Read the whole thing here. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Roger Stone Juror Could Serve Jail Time if it's Determined She Lied About Bias, Napolitano Says by Matt Margolis Original Article Andrew Napolitano, who is hardly a cheerleader for Team Trump, told Tucker Carlson Thursday evening that Tomeka Hart, the woman who served as foreperson on the jury during Roger Stone's trial, could face jail time if it's determined she lied about her bias when she was selected to serve on the jury. Stone was convicted of seven counts of making false statements, witness tampering and obstruction, but Hart, a former Democratic congressional candidate, is rabidly anti-Trump and had no business being on the jury, let alone foreperson. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 2/14/2020 at 11:04 AM, B-Man said: Roger Stone And The Biased Juror. Devin Nunes hints that Robert Mueller’s team will be exposed soon. . ...so who breaks the news to "Sleepy Bob"?............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Juror 1261 in Roger Stone's case: Was justice undone? She was Juror No. 1261, and her examination by the federal court and counsel before the trial was anything but notable. And that is precisely the problem. Juror 1261, we now know, was Tomeka Hart. Her identity would have remained publicly unknown except for a public statement she made after the Department of Justice (DOJ) rescinded its initial sentencing recommendation for Trump confidant Roger Stone. In the midst of the firestorm of allegations of political interference, Hart disclosed that she was the foreperson on the Stone jury and gave a full-throated defense of the trial prosecutors: “It pains me to see the DOJ now interfere with the hard work of the prosecutors.” That statement led many people to Google her name, and what they found was a litany of postings not only hostile to President Trump and his administration but also specifically commenting on Stone and his arrest — before she ever appeared for jury duty. (Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ... Stone Case Exposes the Arrogance of the Administrative State With the latest news surrounding the Roger Stone case and the press to send him to jail for nine years, we can apparently now add the Fourth and Sixth Amendments to the growing list of our constitutional rights flying out the window. Stone’s sentencing, the definition of cruel and unusual punishment for a first-time offender on a process crime, is the latest episode in an ongoing series where liberal fanatics use their power to punish political opponents, the rule of law be damned. To be honest, I’ve never been the biggest fan of Roger Stone or Paul Manafort. I’ve even had my doubts about former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. But you can’t convince me that it is pure coincidence that only one side of the political aisle is routinely hauled into court on flimsy charges. Especially when we have Andrew McCabe, who the Justice Department has now decided to not prosecute, walking free despite doing the exact same thing Stone and Flynn have been charged with doing. With reports now coming out that the lead juror in the Stone case was openly anti-Trump, and potentially perjured herself in denying knowledge of who Stone was and then tweeting about him, this has been a rigged process. Yet Judge Amy Berman Jackson, a Barack Obama appointee, did not see any reason to bar jurors with apparent bias. She has sworn to uphold the equal application of the law, but apparently, that oath only extends to those who share her political leanings. But this issue of Roger Stone is about far more than the fate of one man. It is the principles instilled by the Founders that are at risk of collapse—the principles that state unequivocally one is guaranteed a fair trial, due process... (Excerpt) Read more at amgreatness.com ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 https://www.theblaze.com/news/doj-opens-news-investigation-into-james-comey-andrew-mccabe-peter-strzok-former-top-official-says Andrew Weissmann, a former top lawyer at the Justice Department who played a central role in Robert Mueller's investigation, said Friday the Justice Department has begun a new investigation into several former top FBI officials. Weissmann, speaking to MSNBC host Chuck Todd, said the Justice Department has swapped its "loser case" against Andrew McCabe — in which the DOJ declined to pursue charges against McCabe for lying to investigators — for a new case against former FBI Director James Comey, McCabe, and Peter Strzok. "All they did was swapped out a loser case for starting an investigation that is going to be of Comey, McCabe, Pete Strzok," Weissmann said, the Washington Examiner reported. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 THAT’S DIFFERENT BECAUSE SHUT UP: ‘Obama Personally Asked the FBI to Investigate Someone on Behalf of George Soros,’ Says Alan Dershowitz. . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 https://twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1229825548584706050 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koko78 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hedge said: The mob didn't kill all those people, they simply "misplaced" them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Koko78 said: The mob didn't kill all those people, they simply "misplaced" them. Maybe they hid it in with the 10 kilos of coke in the evidence locker that shrunk to 2 pounds from evaporation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 COLLUSION, STRAIGHT UP: DOJ Is Investigating If Obama Officials Hid Evidence Of Russia Election Interference. . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, B-Man said: COLLUSION, STRAIGHT UP: DOJ Is Investigating If Obama Officials Hid Evidence Of Russia Election Interference. . Lol this phony isn't going to do anything. Articles like this give the illusion that something might happen someday but it won't. Soon they will have to stop putting out crap like this because even the true believers will come to the realization that Durham, Barr and the rest are either complicit or impotent. I don't care which it is. The lefties can rejoice all they want but the bureaucrats have now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they can do whatever they please and they will be kind to no one with their fortified hubris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1230153030718382081 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 This is new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 I look forward to the correction that completely discredits the story after 48 hours of media meltdown ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 43 minutes ago, B-Man said: I look forward to the correction that completely discredits the story after 48 hours of media meltdown ? Daily Beast already deleted this: Of course, that wasn't at all accurate. ASSANGE, not Trump, has long said Russia didn't hack the DNC and he could prove it. Asking for a deal in exchange for that evidence isn't Trump asking to "cover up" anything. It's the opposite. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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