Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Much larger sample for Mills (16 games to 4) and much weaker line overall. Not saying Smith is the answer, just saying Mills sure hasn't been Ok. Mills graded out higher then any of the last two years of Smith. How bout that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo044 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 2 years 4m is backup money. Still, he was okay last year and can't have a probowler at every position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I am not sure there is a better option then Mills in FA....which was limited to begin with. Still hoping a late pick or UFA comes in and beats him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I actually trust Whaley with these type of signings. Who wanted Zach Brown, Lorax, or Groy last year now most people are gonna be upset if we lose them. exactly. I don't get how people are criticizing Whaley's FA moves. They have generally been very solid. Also picked up Hunter, who the Pats are going after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I'd rather have DJ Fluker, also since the Patriots are interested, they must see potential still Fluker is listed at 6'3" which is generally considered a tad too short for an OT. I would LOVE for him to come to the Bills as a Guard. He's a hard worker and is really, really strong. His name was mentioned here before but he didn't get rave reviews from posters. Oh well. He is visiting with the Giants today. Their weakness is their OL and my guess is that they will sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 We just signed Mills at RT. Is Andre Smith still an option??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 We just signed Mills at RT. Is Andre Smith still an option??? More so now, I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Here is the games and sacks given up for Smith: 2009 - 6 games and .5 sack 2010 - 7 games and 2 sacks 2011 - 14 games and 2 sacks 2012 - 16 games and 7.5 sacks 2013 - 15 games and 5.5 sacks 2014 - 9 games and 4 sacks 2015 - 14 games and 3 sacks 2016 - 4 games and 2.5 sacks Very, very mixed results here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I did...sorry im out of it today No worries John. It dawned on me on my third reading you were taking about Lorax (who I'm happy they signed for the record). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 More so now, I think The statement was Mills was going to COMPETE for a spot...which leads me to believe we are not done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Fluke signed with Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Smith was a good RT in Cincy for a few years. He's tailed off as of the last couple. If we got the 3 years ago version it would be a definite upgrade. Now it is probably wasted money. Don't really see him fitting in a zone blocking scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 exactly. I don't get how people are criticizing Whaley's FA moves. They have generally been very solid. Also picked up Hunter, who the Pats are going after. They criticize Whaley because they hate him. While Mills was pretty meh the options available in FA were either too expensive for their worth or even worse than Mills. The contract is cheap and ensures that our RT situation isn't worse than last year, which was a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 2 years 4m is backup money. Still, he was okay last year and can't have a probowler at every position ....look at the number of FA deals in the 8-9 mil/yr range being thrown out there for lineman...don't have much of a choice at those numbers...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 We just signed Mills at RT. Is Andre Smith still an option??? I think the Bills were scared of his moobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) I think the Bills were scared of his moobs.IDK, everyone in the office just got an email attachment from Whaley suggesting he definitely appreciates a good rack. ...well, maybe not. Follow up email suggests he's trying to recall it. Edited March 12, 2017 by transient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) I actually trust Whaley with these type of signings. Who wanted Zach Brown, Lorax, or Groy last year now most people are gonna be upset if we lose them. Agreed. So far, Whaley has been much better at acquiring productive vets than drafting impactful players. Edited March 12, 2017 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 o-line choices are not inspiring. Smith is a no for me as would have been Vlad. I get not overpaying but I don't like dumpster diving for olinemen I agree. Unfortunately, when you're starving, you go dumpster diving. Kind of like last year with WRs, DW seems to be hoping that if he brings enough journeyman in to compete, one of them will step up and prove worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Agreed. So far, Whaley has been much better at acquiring productive vets than drafting impactful players. I'm hoping this is a product of the coaching turnover. You would expect that identifying vets for the current system is easier than drafting players that fit the current system and also having them be a good fit for the next, as yet to be determined, system once they develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Still nothing about Smith? Read he was visiting today. Did they sign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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