Beef Jerky Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Read his FB post and tell me that is not a call out of the FO. I forgot that the FO can do no wrong with you. Maybe you might want to look at my Whaley Posts and see where I am so fast to call him out. As where the FO only does bad things with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 If my predecessor showed up to stage and offered to give me pointers on how to light our sets, I would tell him, in no uncertain terms, to GTFO. And if he decided to then announce "For the record, I tried to help Rocky Landing" on Facebook right after you were fired it would suggest that he is a self serving douche who likes to yell LAMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Ok then EJ Manuel was dumb bad luck. No. It was well known that he was a project pick at best in that draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I'd like to wish the very best to Dan Carpenter and his future endeavors. It's not easy kicking in Buffalo! For the record, I did offer to help him, but was told by the GM that he wouldn't be receptive to outsiders. You would think after kicking there for nine years, l wouldn't be considered an outsider. But rather an experienced resource that was available to coach a fellow specialist in a time of need. Why does everybody keep on saying they dont know if Doug said this or Dan. Christie clearly says the GM in his post https://www.facebook.com/steve.christie.908 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 As where the FO only does bad things with you. Really do they, nah they really don't I have praised a lot that they do. So far this offseason they have made two questionable moves IMO and I will talk about them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I'd like to wish the very best to Dan Carpenter and his future endeavors. It's not easy kicking in Buffalo! For the record, I did offer to help him, but was told by the GM that he wouldn't be receptive to outsiders. You would think after kicking there for nine years, l wouldn't be considered an outsider. But rather an experienced resource that was available to coach a fellow specialist in a time of need. Why does everybody keep on saying they dont know if Doug said this or Dan. Christie clearly says the GM in his post https://www.facebook.com/steve.christie.908 "was told by the GM that HE wouldn't be receptive to outsiders." It's the "he" that folks are questioning. Is the "he" Whaley or Carp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Steve? lol, no, just playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Read his FB post and tell me that is not a call out of the FO. I forgot that the FO can do no wrong with you. Maybe you might want to look at my Whaley Posts and see where I am so fast to call him out. Do no wrong? The FO can certainly do wrong. We don't even know why, when, or how Whaley rejected Christie though, and it is well within Whaley's job description to make such a decision. Like others have said, "who knows, maybe Whaley asked Carpenter and Carpenter said "shove it"" Obviously I can't prove it, but I certainly believe had the reverse scenario occurred, there would be a number of media articles saying Whaley was "grasping for help at the struggling kicking position", and throwing in some insult like "Whaley looks lost with the roster at times" with the Buffalo News. And then posters (maybe not you) would be on Whaley's case about how he is lost in his job. The media agenda against Whaley is pretty clear. If they cared at all about the facts of the story rather than taking shots at Whaley, they would determine the "why, when, and how" before publishing a story that Whaley "spurned Christie". I'd like to wish the very best to Dan Carpenter and his future endeavors. It's not easy kicking in Buffalo! For the record, I did offer to help him, but was told by the GM that he wouldn't be receptive to outsiders. You would think after kicking there for nine years, l wouldn't be considered an outsider. But rather an experienced resource that was available to coach a fellow specialist in a time of need. Why does everybody keep on saying they dont know if Doug said this or Dan. Christie clearly says the GM in his post https://www.facebook.com/steve.christie.908 The point is that no one knows if Whaley talked with Carpenter, and Carpenter said "forget that, I know how to do my job" or that Whaley was already going to cut him and shouldn't let Christie dictate roster decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Look, I love Christie. There may never be a better kicker in my lifetime. But at the end of the day, Carp was getting a decent amount of money for the position he was in. And two years ago I cheered that deal. But that was before the XP changes, and that happened to be in his danger zone. He really regressed the last two years. In 2014 he was clutch. In 2016, he choked in the biggest moments. The Seahawks and Phins came come to mind immediately but there were a lot of missed kicks. Maybe the Bills could have gotten a way to work him through the funk, but for the cap space he was getting, we can get a 6th round pick and let the coaches work on that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I personally dont have a problem with this. I mean we hire coaches for a reason. By bringing in someone else we undermine the coach. Kickers are head cases imo. And Carp lost his edge. I agree with this completely. He had a ST coach trying to help him. If Christie gave same advice as coach there would be no benefit- if he gave conflicting advice there likely would have been harm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Really do they, nah they really don't I have praised a lot that they do. So far this offseason they have made two questionable moves IMO and I will talk about them Hahaha you take this and pretend like it is real or even relevant. That is how pathetic you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Ho,hum. Why could I care less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Let the record reflect that Carpenter has a far better FG% than Steve Christie. As a Bill, Christie's FG% was just over 78%. Carpenter's FG% as a Bill is over 85%. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Christie played in a different "Era" literally. The big video and scoreboards, corner clubs, the restrooms towers, flags, Global warming. All those likely changed the wind patters in the stadium since Christie was killing it. Christie could have contacted Carp and worked on what ever he wanted whenever he felt like it, so stop with the crying. You just look silly. Christie post is knocking Carp for not being receptive to Christie. There is no proof that Whaley was lying to him. Well, the parking is better in this Whaley sucks/ Carp thread than the other one. But the comment above should get an award. Since "Global warming" has been affecting many kickers games for years now. The silent career killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 @ Steve Christie calling out anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Carp shoulda took the mentorship even at his age. Your never too old to learn and improve on your craft. Cant act like a diva about it.Now Carp is just a fish out of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 ehhh....get your point, kinda, but Kelly would be different than Christie. Not even in the same league as Kelly/Thomas in terms of "accomplished alumni." When is the last time Steve Christie was seen at training camp or on the sidelines? Didn't I just read where Christie is the Bills all-time leading scorer and all-time field-goal kicker? I would rank that up there as an "accomplished alumni". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Didn't I just read where Christie is the Bills all-time leading scorer and all-time field-goal kicker? I would rank that up there as an "accomplished alumni". On the same level as Kelly and Thurman? Yeah, no. I wouldn't even put him up there with Eric Moulds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 If my predecessor showed up to stage and offered to give me pointers on how to light our sets, I would tell him, in no uncertain terms, to GTFO. More like pre, pre, pre, pre, predecessor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Read his FB post and tell me that is not a call out of the FO. Umm. I read it. I quoted it. I pointed out how you are interpreting it to mean Whaley didn't want outside help, when Christie could have very well meant Carpenter didn't want outside help. If Christie meant Carpenter didn't want outside help, how is that throwing the FO under the bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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