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21 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

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Please, I have 5 anonymous sources who, citing unnamed methods, heard at the water cooler from people who were familiar with people who use other water coolers that Trump did, in fact, have THREE scoops of ice cream last night after a supper consisting of burnt steak slathered in ketchup.

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Belongs in both threads..........

 

YOU DON’T NEED A SPY TO KNOW WHICH WAY THE RUSSIAN WIND BLOWS

 

 

Over the last few days we have seen news reports alleging that members of the “intelligence community” have delivered briefings to the effect that the Russians are 1) trying to help President Trump in the 2020 election, and 2) trying to help Bernie Sanders in the same election. I don’t take seriously anything that is leaked from the “intelligence community,” but in any event, we don’t need the CIA to tell us where Vladimir Putin stands on American politics.

 

Donald Trump is anathema to the rulers of Russia. Not only has he armed the Ukrainians, he has re-invigorated NATO by insisting that members take an interest in their own defense; stood up to and badly wounded Russia’s key ally, Iran; overseen an expansion and strengthening of American armed forces; and, most important, encouraged fracking and other development of U.S. oil and gas resources, which has kept down the global price of oil.

 

This hits Russia where it hurts the most: as one pundit has noted, Russia is essentially a “heavily armed gas station.” Petroleum represents more than 50% of Russia’s total exports, and natural gas is its main geopolitical weapon against Western Europe.

 

It is blindingly obvious that the Russians would prefer any Democrat to President Trump. All of the Democrats have promised to limit U.S. production of oil and gas, which no doubt sounds like pure insanity to Putin but is music to his ears. Equally important, they all vow to shrink America’s armed forces and, equally important, never to use them under any foreseeable circumstances. And they all would pursue a soft line toward Iran.

 

Of the Democrats, the Russians probably see Sanders as a sentimental favorite, given his longstanding fondness for the Soviet Union, Cuba and Venezuela. I doubt they ever expected to see a Soviet sympathizer as a serious candidate for the presidency. But in the end any Democrat will do, as they are all aligned on the policies (American weakness, in a word) that matter most to Russia.

 

If any member of the “intelligence community” tries to tell us anything to the contrary, chalk it up to the ongoing war of the Deep State against Donald Trump.

 

 

 

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23 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Belongs in both threads..........

 

YOU DON’T NEED A SPY TO KNOW WHICH WAY THE RUSSIAN WIND BLOWS

 

 

Over the last few days we have seen news reports alleging that members of the “intelligence community” have delivered briefings to the effect that the Russians are 1) trying to help President Trump in the 2020 election, and 2) trying to help Bernie Sanders in the same election. I don’t take seriously anything that is leaked from the “intelligence community,” but in any event, we don’t need the CIA to tell us where Vladimir Putin stands on American politics.

 

Donald Trump is anathema to the rulers of Russia. Not only has he armed the Ukrainians, he has re-invigorated NATO by insisting that members take an interest in their own defense; stood up to and badly wounded Russia’s key ally, Iran; overseen an expansion and strengthening of American armed forces; and, most important, encouraged fracking and other development of U.S. oil and gas resources, which has kept down the global price of oil.

 

This hits Russia where it hurts the most: as one pundit has noted, Russia is essentially a “heavily armed gas station.” Petroleum represents more than 50% of Russia’s total exports, and natural gas is its main geopolitical weapon against Western Europe.

 

It is blindingly obvious that the Russians would prefer any Democrat to President Trump. All of the Democrats have promised to limit U.S. production of oil and gas, which no doubt sounds like pure insanity to Putin but is music to his ears. Equally important, they all vow to shrink America’s armed forces and, equally important, never to use them under any foreseeable circumstances. And they all would pursue a soft line toward Iran.

 

Of the Democrats, the Russians probably see Sanders as a sentimental favorite, given his longstanding fondness for the Soviet Union, Cuba and Venezuela. I doubt they ever expected to see a Soviet sympathizer as a serious candidate for the presidency. But in the end any Democrat will do, as they are all aligned on the policies (American weakness, in a word) that matter most to Russia.

 

If any member of the “intelligence community” tries to tell us anything to the contrary, chalk it up to the ongoing war of the Deep State against Donald Trump.

 

 

 

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I've been saying this for years, just not as well. Good post.

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47 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

Please, I have 5 anonymous sources who, citing unnamed methods, heard at the water cooler from people who were familiar with people who use other water coolers that Trump did, in fact, have THREE scoops of ice cream last night after a supper consisting of burnt steak slathered in ketchup.

 

I guess it's pretty serious.

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Boy, remember all the cheers and chest pumping over Nunes lawsuits? LOL, what a joke. Nunes is such a little fascist scum bag 

 

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A federal judge has tossed out a racketeering lawsuit House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes filed last year against the private investigation firm at the heart of the Trump-Russia saga.

 

The judge also signaled that pressing on with the legal battle could result in sanctions against Nunes and his attorney, Steven Biss. 

 

Daniel Stevens, of Campaign for Accountability, welcomed the judge's ruling and said the suit was transparently frivolous.

"The allegations in the complaint were obviously absurd and did not warrant any consideration," Stevens said in a statement Saturday. "Moreover, attempts by Nunes to stifle critics through well-funded lawsuits is an affront to the First Amendment. Nunes should not be allowed to abuse his power to force critics to stand silent in the face of his misconduct. We are gratified that the court put an end to this nonsense. "

 

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/21/devin-nunes-lawsuit-trump-dossier-116675

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As Walter Russell Mead wrote in 2017:

If Trump were the Manchurian candidate that people keep wanting to believe that he is, here are some of the things he’d be doing:

 

Limiting fracking as much as he possibly could


Blocking oil and gas pipelines


Opening negotiations for major nuclear arms reductions


Cutting U.S. military spending


Trying to tamp down tensions with Russia’s ally Iran.

 

 

 

“Yep,” I noted in December. “You know who did do these things? Obama.

 

 

You know who supports these things now? Democrats.”

 
 
 
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BRIAN CATES: The ‘Wrong Scandal’ Keeps Winning.

 

One scandal, commonly referred to as “Russiagate,” claims that the man who had just won the election was an undercover agent who took orders straight from Moscow.

 

The other one that emerged claimed the first scandal was always a false construct of the rival Hillary Clinton campaign and its politicized allies within the federal government’s intelligence and law enforcement agencies. This second scandal came to be called “Spygate.”

 

One of these scandals was indeed fake and the other was very real.

 

Most of the U.S. media went all-in on the proposition that the fake scandal was real and the real scandal was fake.

 

However, the scandal that was endlessly promoted by mainstream news outlets turned out to be a hoax, as shown by the investigations by special counsel Robert Mueller and Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General Michael Horowitz. Meanwhile, the scandal they dismissed as a “wild conspiracy theory” turned out to be real.

 

 

Read the whole thing.

 
 
 
 
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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

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That was always for an easy numbers game "win".  When that didn't materialize (I laughed out loud when they sent an attorney to court), I was surprised the case wasn't dropped immediately. No way did the Mueller Team want to give anything up in discovery.

 

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WASHINGTON (AP) — A bipartisan Senate report released Tuesday affirms the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusions that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election in a far-ranging influence campaign approved by Russian President Vladimir Putin and aimed at helping Donald Trump win the White House.

The report rejects Trump’s claims that the intelligence community was biased against him when it concluded that Russia had interfered on his behalf in the election. It says instead that intelligence officials had specific information that Russia preferred Trump in the election, that it sought to denigrate Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton and that Putin had “approved and directed aspects” of the Kremlin’s influence campaign.

The heavily-redacted report from the Senate Intelligence Committee is part of the panel’s more than three-year investigation into Russian interference. Intelligence agencies concluded in January 2017 that Russians had engaged in cyber-espionage and distributed messages through Russian-controlled propaganda outlets to undermine public faith in the democratic process, hurt Clinton and aid Trump, who ultimately became president.

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6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

WASHINGTON (AP) — A bipartisan Senate report released Tuesday affirms the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusions that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election in a far-ranging influence campaign approved by Russian President Vladimir Putin and aimed at helping Donald Trump win the White House.

The report rejects Trump’s claims that the intelligence community was biased against him when it concluded that Russia had interfered on his behalf in the election. It says instead that intelligence officials had specific information that Russia preferred Trump in the election, that it sought to denigrate Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton and that Putin had “approved and directed aspects” of the Kremlin’s influence campaign.

The heavily-redacted report from the Senate Intelligence Committee is part of the panel’s more than three-year investigation into Russian interference. Intelligence agencies concluded in January 2017 that Russians had engaged in cyber-espionage and distributed messages through Russian-controlled propaganda outlets to undermine public faith in the democratic process, hurt Clinton and aid Trump, who ultimately became president.

Who your enemy wants to win your election should tell you all you need to know. 

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4 hours ago, daz28 said:

Who your enemy wants to win your election should tell you all you need to know. 

 

When the people who lied to you, for four years about Trump being a Russian asset, continue to lie to you and you keep believing them -- it tells you all you need to know about your level of understanding on this topic. 

 

 

 

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