The Big Cat Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Tyler Dunne, after only a short time in Buffalo, has more inside information on the Bills than Sully who's spending his career following the Bills. I give him 18 more months there, tops. Oh wait...didn't even take him that long before he got scooped up by BR/ Edited January 6, 2017 by The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I suspect that's why they were both let go together I thought it was a curious decision at the time. Owners/GMs either fire just the Head Coach or the whole staff. It's not usually the Head Coach plus one. I wondered why at the time. If the Pegulas had this information, the move makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Tyler Dunne, after only a short time in Buffalo, has more inside information on the Bills than Sully who's spending his career following the Bills. Sully probably has better advice on Metamucil and Viagra than Ty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I'm guessing that the 10-man defensive sets that they occasionally used, were in some way connected to Wrob Wyan. I thought that was very innovative... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Pegula should've never allowed Rex to hire his brother. im pro-empowering coaches to build out their staff as desired but i think in a spot like this you warn that in your experience it might not be a smart choice and will be an important one for him to think through before making... and then hold accountable for results. i wouldnt be shocked if thats roughly what happened here behind the scenes with pegs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I wonder how much they paid Rob last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Rob is and was incompetent. This is the least surprising Bills news in a long time. A terrible coach came to Buffalo and was a terrible coach. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/185444-bills-fire-dl-coach-karl-dunbar/?p=3895967 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I thought that was very innovative... It'll confuse an offense that's expecting 11. And then when they're expecting 10, you line up 11 and confuse them again. Clever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 im pro-empowering coaches to build out their staff as desired but i think in a spot like this you warn that in your experience it might not be a smart choice and will be an important one for him to think through before making... and then hold accountable for results. i wouldnt be shocked if thats roughly what happened here behind the scenes with pegs. Yeah, I highly doubt that the prevailing sentiment here is that Pegs should have set a precedent by micromanaging assistant hires... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 But I thought Byrd ruined the New Orleans D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) I thought that was very innovative... I heard that that was why Wrex was let go. He told Pegula that he needed another year to get the right personnel for the new scheme he and his brother had developed. They call it the "11-1 Defense" Edited January 6, 2017 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 One other note: Player I chatted with said Rob Ryan mixed man with zone so much it confused everybody. "It was all over the place." That brings me back to a couple of plays where coverage was very obviously blown, and after (or even during) the play DBs would start arguing about it on the field. And people would blame Gilmore for blowing the coverage...while a few of us would say "How can you blame Gilmore, when everybody is obviously confused?" God, what an atrocity of coaching. Three defensive minds can't even get a coherent !@#$ing secondary call in on time. Never mind fundamentals, or schemes...just imagine how much better the defense would have been if they simply got the play calls and packages on the field on time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 And this is exactly why Rex was fired. They were paying him 5.5 million for his defense and for him to run it. Not for him to just be the HC and let someone else run the defense. I think Rob is probably still a good position coach but as a game day play caller and strategist, his record speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 And this is exactly why Rex was fired. They were paying him 5.5 million for his defense and for him to run it. Not for him to just be the HC and let someone else run the defense. I think Rob is probably still a good position coach but as a game day play caller and strategist, his record speaks for itself.but Bucky and Sully still want to know why Whaley didn't ask "Why?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Somewhere else I read something similar. According to an unnamed source, Rex didn't work as hard this year as in years past. He let his brother run the D. Once he realized things were screwed up, it was too late to get it under control. That is on him and he deserved to get fired for it. In a year where Rex was on the hot seat he should have been directly involved from day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Pegula should've never allowed Rex to hire his brother.Pegula never should have hired Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 That brings me back to a couple of plays where coverage was very obviously blown, and after (or even during) the play DBs would start arguing about it on the field. And people would blame Gilmore for blowing the coverage...while a few of us would say "How can you blame Gilmore, when everybody is obviously confused?" God, what an atrocity of coaching. Three defensive minds can't even get a coherent !@#$ing secondary call in on time. Never mind fundamentals, or schemes...just imagine how much better the defense would have been if they simply got the play calls and packages on the field on time. Several times this year the TV guys would cut to a shot of R&R looking at each other like a couple of confused clowns. I'm sure it was meant to paint them in an embarrassing light, not that they needed any help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 but Bucky and Sully still want to know why Whaley didn't ask "Why?" I want to know why Whaley didn't know he was gonna get fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) I heard that that was why Wrex was let go. He told Pegula that he needed another year to get the right personnel for the new scheme he and his brother had developed. They call it the "11-1 Defense" hmmm...wonder why they got rid of Mario then? He was a perfect fit. "Is he playing this down or not" Edited January 6, 2017 by TPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 @TyDunne Bills defensive player on Rob Ryan's D: "Players hated it. Everything we played was dictated off the offense. We had no identity." That seems obvious in retrospect. What a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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