dorquemada Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I like Tyrod, and think he's the best QB we've had in a good 10 years. But he's not that great. I could see the decision either way, honestly. I wish the guy well. All that said, I find it tough to believe that they will find someone better in 2017, and that could mean a very, very ugly season (4-12 type of year). They score points on offense and almost never turn the ball over. If all of a sudden you've got a guy throwing picks it could get ugly fast. 7-8 win teams become 3-4 win teams that way. I tend to be a glass half full guy, what if in addition to throwing some more interceptions, the new qb also leads some 4th qtr comebacks? or throws for 300 yards every now and again rather than once every 30 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 This news is depressing. The bright side is it's not real news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Doug Whaley knows more than you. Duh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Nope; should have whacked them both off this year... Exactly. If were gonna destroy to rebuild do it all now. No need to waste more time. Auction off Shady and our best vets for picks and start building and getting ready for a tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I tend to be a glass half full guy, what if in addition to throwing some more interceptions, the new qb also leads some 4th qtr comebacks? or throws for 300 yards every now and again rather than once every 30 gamespeople are acting like it will be impossible to find a decent replacement, has everyone forgotten the 75% of games this year where tyrod was either below average or bad in. We found tyrod out of no where from baltimores bench but apparently even decent qbs cant be found anymore? The bills with tyrod will be stuck in mediocrity at best i for one would be willing to take some chances for even a chance to be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Exactly. If were gonna destroy to rebuild do it all now. No need to waste more time. Auction off Shady and our best vets for picks and start building and getting ready for a tank. Seriously. Might as well trade shady and hughes. By the time this team is "ready" these guys will be passed their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 John Murphy asking on his show, "Do you want to be good or do you want to be great?" Loaded question but he is selling us on wanting to be great. You interpret that how you will. Seems obvious what Bills mgmt is going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 John Murphy asking on his show, "Do you want to be good or do you want to be great?" Loaded question but he is selling us on wanting to be great. You interpret that how you will. Seems obvious what Bills mgmt is going to do. I thought the same thing, and I agree in principle. I just see Tyrod as the best QB we've had in a decade. If finding one better was a given they wouldn't have taken so long just to get an average QB (which is what I think he is). people are acting like it will be impossible to find a decent replacement, has everyone forgotten the 75% of games this year where tyrod was either below average or bad in. We found tyrod out of no where from baltimores bench but apparently even decent qbs cant be found anymore? The bills with tyrod will be stuck in mediocrity at best i for one would be willing to take some chances for even a chance to be better Their recent history has been poor. Tyrod is much better than anyone they have had in a while. Still, that's no reason not to keep trying. I would keep him AND keep trying to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering bills fan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 people are acting like it will be impossible to find a decent replacement, has everyone forgotten the 75% of games this year where tyrod was either below average or bad in. We found tyrod out of no where from baltimores bench but apparently even decent qbs cant be found anymore? The bills with tyrod will be stuck in mediocrity at best i for one would be willing to take some chances for even a chance to be better Like him or not, TT has been the best qb we have had since Bledsoe. If it is that easy to find even an average qb, why have we not done so and avoided the long list of failed qb experiments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The Patriots have drafted more QBs during Brady's career than the Bills have. They might even have the heir to Brady's throne on the roster now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 John Murphy asking on his show, "Do you want to be good or do you want to be great?" Loaded question but he is selling us on wanting to be great. You interpret that how you will. Seems obvious what Bills mgmt is going to do. I am still 50/50. There is a part of me that thinks the window is shut on this team and therefore we should begin the process of ripping it down so that we can start again. Another part thinks "maybe there is one more year in this group that could be a playoff year?" If they can find a way of lowering the cap penalty to get out of the deal after 2017 then Tyrod should be the Quarterback next year.... but maybe that juat delays the inevitable by a year? I don't know. I think at #10 DeShaun Watson is probably still there and if he is I am picking him regardless and if he plays well in camp and pre-season I am starting him. Let the future be now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 John Murphy asking on his show, "Do you want to be good or do you want to be great?" Loaded question but he is selling us on wanting to be great. You interpret that how you will. Seems obvious what Bills mgmt is going to do. Pathetic logic. Top 7 in scoring is better than good. Top 10 over 2 seasons is better than good. Of course we all want to be great, but we can be good en route to being great. Its not greatness or bust. The seawhawks were going to the playoffs with matt freaking hasselback before becoming great with Wilson. The Steelers were going to the playoffs with Kordell Stewart before becoming great with Big Ben, the ravens were going to the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer before Flacco. The giants with collins before Eli. 5 years from now we'll be saying that the Texans were still getting by with Osweiler and Hoyer before landing their stud QB. We dont need to go into football purgatory before becoming "great". We're cutting off our nose to spite our face. Its sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Seriously. Might as well trade shady and hughes. By the time this team is "ready" these guys will be passed their prime. Exactly. Get em off the books and start stacking the salary cap space. I have to be honest though. Tyrod earned the starting job, has led his team through the ups and downs without throwing people under the bus and pouting like Cutler on the sidelines last season. ( @RLBillz cuz Cutlers ur boy! Look it up tho! ) Tyrod made this team exciting to watch, wasnt perfect but he progressed a little, dont understand how some people expect him to make a huge leap working with 3rd 4th n 5th string WRs and a pop warner passing playbook. SMH. I live in NJ I have to stream the games from 3rd parties. Its kind of a hassle when I dont have a CPU in my room. If Tyrod is let go I dont think I can go through that every week just to watch us tank a season with a retread FA QB. Might just have to watch when its on TV here. That sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 John Murphy asking on his show, "Do you want to be good or do you want to be great?" Loaded question but he is selling us on wanting to be great. You interpret that how you will. Seems obvious what Bills mgmt is going to do. You don't get to "great" without first passing "good." Giants won the SB at 9-7, was that a "great" team? Are they apologizing for that Lombardi? Get to the playoffs on a regular basis, that's what I want. Sometimes teams that do that win the SB, sometimes they still can't get a playoff win. But do that and you have a shot at a championship almost every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Pathetic logic. Top 7 in scoring is better than good. Top 10 over 2 seasons is better than good. We're cutting off our nose to spite our face. Its sad. John Murphys words are damning. Looking like were tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 You don't get to "great" without first passing "good." Giants won the SB at 9-7, was that a "great" team? Are they apologizing for that Lombardi? Get to the playoffs on a regular basis, that's what I want. Sometimes teams that do that win the SB, sometimes they still can't get a playoff win. But do that and you have a shot at a championship almost every year. 1000% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 You don't get to "great" without first passing "good." Giants won the SB at 9-7, was that a "great" team? Are they apologizing for that Lombardi? Get to the playoffs on a regular basis, that's what I want. Sometimes teams that do that win the SB, sometimes they still can't get a playoff win. But do that and you have a shot at a championship almost every year. Right. We were close. Rex fcked up the defense but fixed our offense (how ironic is that?), some continuity and improved pass plays and WRs on offense with an improved defense or at least close to our 2014 defense and we could make a decent playoff run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Or if you want to compare this to Sabres history...look at Tim Murray who presided over a tank and came out on the other side. If what you're saying is true, and the Bills are looking at a major decline no matter what they try to do then they could just keep Whaley after bottoming out. Otherwise, cut him loose now and have someone else start over. Doug Whaley isn't no Tim Murray. And Murray himself, much as I like his blunt talk, hasn't produced much yet. John Murphy asking on his show, "Do you want to be good or do you want to be great?" Loaded question but he is selling us on wanting to be great. You interpret that how you will. Seems obvious what Bills mgmt is going to do. Is this what it's come to? Parsing what John Murphy says on state controlled radio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 i can't. there are rules against profanities on this board. jw Why hide behind a censored bar, I see what you typed but what are you SAYING??? Question for JW - have you gotten the impression from other FO types in the league that DW is well thought of? I mean all the speculation on this board is 90% piss and 10% vinegar and the truth is we can all have strong opinions but will never do what he does for a living. I'm not trying to get you to give your opinion on him, just a general sense of how he and his staff are regarded. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Tyrod will not be a starting QB in NFL next year unless it's with the Bills. I don't see that happening unless it's a clear stop gap, i.e. Case Keenum situation in LA For that matter, Anthony Lynn won't be an NFL coach next year unless it's with the Bills. I don't think he's on any team's real short list and I'm hoping he doesn't play the Bills for fools like Rex and Dougie did. I'll go two further, Whaley wouldn't be a GM on any team except the Bills and Brandon wouldn't be President of any NFL team other than the Bills. Translation: NONE of them are good enough for any team except the Bills. Sorry for being so depressing and honest on a wonderful Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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