BaaadThingsMan Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Am I the only one who could not care less what Jim Kelly thinks about the current state of the Bills?probably not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Maybe he should fare better than 1-6 vs the .500 teams then. He is a problem as well as the defense. Your opinion. Well never agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 17m17 minutes ago Jim Kelly, on ESPN's NFL Insiders, on what it will take to snap Buffalo's streak of 17 years without playoffs: "Tom Brady's gotta retire." This is fine. But, unfortunately, Brady thinks he can play for 5 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 OBD is in full on damage control. Jimbo's on the Ps&E payroll. This wasn't a coincidentally timed appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 OBD is in full on damage control. Jimbo's on the Ps&E payroll. This wasn't a coincidentally timed appearance. When aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 When aren't they? The Wednesday after they fire their HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 But, unfortunately, Brady thinks he can play for 5 more years. Chances are he probably can't. The decline will hit fast when it comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Although Elway did own and operate a Arena League Team for several years before working for the Broncos. Elway before Peyton Manning, less than .500, Elway after Manning, more of the same. He's nothing special as a gm. Dumervil screw up, waiting on Von til year 5, weak drafts, no running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Jim was asked why we don't hear big name coaches being talked about as showing interest in coaching the Bills. Jim said "It starts with the quarterback. Do you have a quarterback who can take lead you to the next level. We do not have one as of right now." He also said "Tyrod Talyor did a lot of things last year and this year that quarterbacks cannot do (positive connotation), but consistently he just was not what we needed. He had to be more consistent on his throws. When we needed the first down to move the chains to win games, when we needed the first down to move the chains to get first downs to continue that control of the ball, to take time off the clock, we just didn't have that there." He basically acknowledged Tyrod's special talent, and then also acknowledged that the offense did not get first downs in situations where it could have won them the game. Keep in mind that he was not asked why the Bills ended up with the record they did or why they lost the games they lost. His answers likely would have been somewhat different if he was asked that. He was specifically asked why no big name coaches names are being thrown around as rumors for the Bills job. His explanation was basically, because the team's best quarterback right now is not a quarterback that people think will win you a Superbowl. But the 49ers, Jaguars and Rams do? Please...49ers are nowhere with QBs, Goff is terrible and the Rams offense is anemic, and Bortles looked like an abortion this year... Tyrod is better than those 3 and it's not even close at this point... Edited January 5, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Am I the only one who could not care less what Jim Kelly thinks about the current state of the Bills? Kelly is the voice of the Bills fans, I only wish the media would present it as such because that's all he is nowadays. But the 49ers, Jaguars and Rams do? Please...49ers are nowhere with QBs, Goff is terrible and the Rams offense is anemic, and Bortles looked like an abortion this year... Tyrod is better than those 3 and it's not even close at this point... Kudos to Tyrod being the tallest midget, it still doesn't mean he's a good QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Kelly is the voice of the Bills fans, I only wish the media would present it as such because that's all he is nowadays. Kudos to Tyrod being the tallest midget, it still doesn't mean he's a good QB. Doesn't mean he is terrible either...and advanced metrics show regardless of what you think he is much better than most give him credit for... I'll also point out that Aaron Rodgers stats playing without Jordy Nelson last year were near identical to Tyrods from a completion percentage, yards per attempt and TD/INT percentage this year(Tyrods were actually better in most categories)... Is he anywhere near that level...no. That's the whole point...if Rogers can struggle badly without Nelson in an offensive friendly system, what do you think Tyrod will do? for those that think playing without your best wideout and some games with practice squad caliber wideouts doesn't make a difference, it's not the case, it does, and it makes a big difference Edited January 5, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 OBD is in full on damage control. Jimbo's on the Ps&E payroll. This wasn't a coincidentally timed appearance. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000769829/article/jim-kelly-tyrod-taylor-is-not-answer-for-bills-at-qb If he is on the payroll and I have no reason to doubt it. Generating this type of headline and story means one of 2 things. The Bills org is likely done with Taylor unless the incoming coach makes a strong pitch for him, or Jim went rogue and it caused more damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Doesn't mean he is terrible either...and advanced metrics show regardless of what you think he is much better than most give him credit for... I'll also point out that Aaron Rodgers stats playing without Jordy Nelson last year were near identical to Tyrods from a completion percentage, yards per attempt and TD/INT percentage this year(Tyrods were actually better in most categories)...for those that think playing without your best wideout and some games with practice squad caliber wideouts doesn't make a difference, it's not the case, it does, and it makes a big difference Have you looked at other NFL rosters? Look at the crap Philip Rivers had in San Diego, Adrew Luck in Indy and even Marcus Mariota in Tennessee and they all had more TD passes than Tyrod. Heck look back at what Ryan Fitzpatrick was tossing to when Gailey was here a 7th Round pick (Stevie Johnson), Donald Jones and David Nelson (undrafted guys) and Fitz is a much better passer than Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Jim really sh!tted on Tyrod.......he really didn't have to do that. Idc if it's honest or not it's bull. I agree. Even if it's true there is no need to do that in such a public forum. I didn't hear him call out the defense. He mentioned it because of the question he was asked. When talking about the coaches being interested in Buffalo he said the main thing is "who is the Quarterback?" That led to his discussion of what we have all seen from Tyrod. He didn't look for a way to throw a jab at the guy, he was answering a question posed by the group on the show. Edited January 5, 2017 by H2o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Have you looked at other NFL rosters? Look at the crap Philip Rivers had in San Diego, Adrew Luck in Indy and even Marcus Mariota in Tennessee and they all had more TD passes than Tyrod. Heck look back at what Ryan Fitzpatrick was tossing to when Gailey was here a 7th Round pick (Stevie Johnson), Donald Jones and David Nelson (undrafted guys) and Fitz is a much better passer than Tyrod. Andrew Luck has TY Hilton, not exactly crap...Rivers has Gates and threw 21 INTs... Looking strictly at Tyrods numbers are a little unfair...we don't need to throw it in the red zone, we can run it in and do so extremely effectively...we were one of the best red Zone teams in the NFL and scored more total TDs than all but 5 or 6 teams in NFL. I mean, sure Tyrod could pad his stats with a bunch of 5 yard TD passes but does that really mean anything in the end?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Sorry but STFU Jim- you always love the hires then hop on the fire bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 OBD is in full on damage control. Jimbo's on the Ps&E payroll. This wasn't a coincidentally timed appearance. I agree - no coincidence. He would not have trashed the Bills QB on national media unless that was some sort of directed messaging. Sounds like they are preparing to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I didn't like what Jim said about Tyrod. No need to be negative about the guy in public especially if he is the "unofficial" voice of the fans. He wasn't asked to throw 45 times a game...and there's no telling if he could (or will) get better?!? Usually, QB's get better through their 20's and TT is not an old guy by any means. He is certainly better than anyone else on the Bills roster at QB so why would Jim basically say they should dump Tyrod and move on? They can still re-sign him while drafting/developing a future QB. We need to win now, not 5 years from now. Again, fix the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Kelly has praised every QB we've had since he retired. His opinion doesn't mean much to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I blame the BN for what Kelly said. the BN is behind this. I bet the BN has sources feeding Kelly bogus info. BN!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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