Coach Tuesday Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Honestly, how many teams are going to pay Tyrod $20 million dollars? Possibilities: Denver San Francisco Jacksonville Cleveland Kansas City (Reid would have his McNabb 2.0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 This injury guarantee is sketchy as all hell. So if he can't pass a physical he gets 30 million or 27!? Whatever it is? Coming off an injuried groin or surgery wouldn't it be easy to manipulate that? If he cant pass a physical by the team and the team DR think he misses the start of the season with it. At this point think ACL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 i must be thick (no comments please lol)... why would they cut him if they are paying him? Not that there is ever a good time to listen to the media, now is certainly not a good time. We should just sit back and wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 If he cant pass a physical by the team and the team DR think he misses the start of the season with it. At this point think ACL the start of the season is March 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 @nick_wojton Tyrod is in the locker room but not speaking with reporters today #Bills Vocal Cord injury. When can we ever get healthy?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Possibilities: Denver San Francisco Jacksonville Cleveland Kansas City (Reid would have his McNabb 2.0) If new coach says move on fine. Trade to them. If you are SO convinced that many teams will bid over 20M for TT. Get the 1st and 3rd from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 im kind of confused by the exit strategy part. If he's injured, doesn't it mean they have to pick up the option? And he's staying? If they have to pay him the guranteed money anyway why would they cut him/decline the option? Or am I misunderstanding the contract... Only if he's still injured on March 9th. Grade 3 groin injury typically 6-8 weeks to heal, and TT may have lower-grade injury. If he needs surgery, 8-12 weeks recovery and surgery usually wouldn't be performed unless the injury isn't improving with some period of rest. By my count, March 9th 10 1/2 weeks from last Sunday. And I agree with you, if the Bills have to pay TT anyway, they will pick up the option and keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) I guess my point is that there are 100-150 plays in a game each week. Easy to scapegoat the kicker for a single kick, and ignore any number of key plays in a game that make up the difference between winning and losing. The thing about the Miami game is that he missed two kicks and had two terrible low-and-short kickoffs that were returned to the 40 (with the final one of these being the killer). Cumulatively, they cost the team the game. Edited December 29, 2016 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 @jasonlacanfora Any injury issue with Tyrod Taylor would have to be significant enough for him to miss time in 2017 for injury guarantees to kick in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 the start of the season is March 1. Games read the clause and think Kaepernick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Possibilities: Denver San Francisco Jacksonville Cleveland Kansas City (Reid would have his McNabb 2.0) I don't think Denver bails on Lynch and would be more likely to draft a guy. No way KC bails on Smith for the lesser version of him. Cleveland and Jacksonville could be possibly but they would be setting themselves up for big time failure. You could be right on some of teams but I think his market is a lot smaller than he probably believes. Especially any team that has played against him and know his flaws. He is pretty easy to defense most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Good afternoon PatsFan I hope the Dolphins whoop your behinds this week. Happy new year!!! Don't choke!! Game doesn't really matter for us.. still have a week off before their first playoff game... something the Bills would be fighting for with a decent kicker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 @jasonlacanfora Any injury issue with Tyrod Taylor would have to be significant enough for him to miss time in 2017 for injury guarantees to kick in Exactly At this point think ACL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 the start of the season is March 1. For picking up options date I read is March 9th? March 1 is the deadline to tag franchise or transition players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 The thing about the Miami game is that he missed two kicks and had two terrible low-and-short kickoffs that were returned to the 40 (with the final one of these being the killer). Cumulatively, they cost the team the game. You mean the two Miami games where Carpenter blew all his tackling assignments allowing Ajayi to run wild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Only if he's still injured on March 9th. Grade 3 groin injury typically 6-8 weeks to heal, and TT may have lower-grade injury. If he needs surgery, 8-12 weeks recovery and surgery usually wouldn't be performed unless the injury isn't improving with some period of rest. By my count, March 9th 10 1/2 weeks from last Sunday. And I agree with you, if the Bills have to pay TT anyway, they will pick up the option and keep him. So the Guarantees dont kick in. HAS TO MISS GAMES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Honestly, how many teams are going to pay Tyrod $20 million dollars? How much was Osweiler paid? TT's body of work is much better than Osweiler's. All I want to know is: 1. Is TT not playing this week b/c we are eliminated and he is injured; or 2. Is TT not playing this week b/c of the injury clause in his contract and we don't yet have a HC hired; or 3. Is TT no playing this week b/c of both #1 and #2 and the Bills don't want his injury to get even more aggravated, causing him to require surgery and forcing a new HC/the Bills to be married to TT. It shouldn't be that difficult to get a straight answer. There's nothing wrong with the Bills coming out and flat out saying something like: "We will wait until a HC is hired before making a final determination on players" End of any questions there. As for "camp Tyrod" making up this injury, that's complete BS. I don't doubt he's injured at all as its been reported already. When it comes down to being medically cleared in March, with millions on the line, Tyrod won't be able to "fake" that injury. The Bills will make sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I don't think Denver bails on Lynch and would be more likely to draft a guy. No way KC bails on Smith for the lesser version of him. Cleveland and Jacksonville could be possibly but they would be setting themselves up for big time failure. You could be right on some of teams but I think his market is a lot smaller than he probably believes. Especially any team that has played against him and know his flaws. He is pretty easy to defense most of the time. He is FAR better than anyone Houston has. GOod teams cut bait when they realize the guy the signed - in this case Osweiler - stinks. We'll see if Houston is one of those teams. Something tells me that O'Brien now has more juice than the GM there and will be more able to get his way. Games read the clause and think Kaepernick OK - gotcha. Thanks. Shoulder/elbow too. But certainly not a groin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Everyone is hurt this time of year in the NFL. The more the team's cheerleaders try to sell benching him as anything other than trying to protect themselves from having to pay him if he gets hurt the more embarrassing it is. They should just shut up about it. Say nothing. EJ is starting. It's not a home game, so that's a bonus. I would honestly laugh so freaking hard if Tyrod tries to use the groin issue to force the Bills to pay him. I don't think the team's "cheerleaders" are trying to sell benching TT as other than a business decision. The coach said it's a business decision. TT has been on the injury report since Week 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 He is FAR better than anyone Houston has. GOod teams cut bait when they realize the guy the signed - in this case Osweiler - stinks. We'll see if Houston is one of those teams. Something tells me that O'Brien now has more juice than the GM there and will be more able to get his way. The problem is that they are saddled with Osweiler's contract next year. To cut Osweiler and sign Tyrod would mean allocating like $30-$40M to the QB position... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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