row_33 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 it's nice to invite other countries within closer striking distance to pitch in for a change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 11 hours ago, Hedge said: For the armaments that are not used during flight, then are jettisoned before landing, are they merely dropped into the ocean and recovered? Are they equip with a self destruct mechanism? Are they fired and explode upon impact with the water? I can't imagine that they are left intact and lying on the ocean floor (or would some float?) without recovery efforts, since these are not things you would want other nations recovering and looking inside of. It simply doesn't come up. If you are carrying live ordnance, like bombs or other stuff, you are doing so for a reason, like bombing a thing behind a ship, which is towing it. If you are carrying missiles, either air to air or air to ground, there is no problem bringing them back aboard. In two cruises and 300+ missions, I never jettisoned anything. The one thing I do know that would not be brought back aboard was the flares, but the only time I carried them at sea was for a fleet airshow, and I dropped them normally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 New sanctions going into effect, on the Ayatollah personally. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdnlng Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Jesus, what an idiot. He's advocating a Chinese naval buildup, and Japan violating postwar treaties AND their own constitution with their own naval buildup? While Japan and China are disputing the Senkaku islands? He's Warren G. Harding with much worse hair. Think again. He's reminding other countries of what all we do. As GG stated above, he's most likely trying to firm up sanctions support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: So why then were we 10 minutes away from war there? You spew so much stupidity that you must refrain from posting over the weekends so that you can replenish your stupidity supply. BREAKING: we don't want Iran to get nuclear weapons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You spew so much stupidity that you must refrain from posting over the weekends so that you can replenish your stupidity supply. BREAKING: we don't want Iran to get nuclear weapons! Then why did Trump pull us out of the agreement that was stopping them from doing that? Duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Then why did Trump pull us out of the agreement that was stopping them from doing that? Duh! Because it was doing no such thing. Obama gave Iran money to spread around on terrorism and they continued to process uranium with the ultimate goal of nuclear weapons. Obama didn't prevent them from getting nuclear weapons but gave them a guided tour to obtaining them. BTW, you're still an idiot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Because it was doing no such thing. Obama gave Iran money to spread around on terrorism and they continued to process uranium with the ultimate goal of nuclear weapons. Obama didn't prevent them from getting nuclear weapons but gave them a guided tour to obtaining them. BTW, you're still an idiot. You like Trump because you hate the truth, reality and facts. You are making up total lies. And I'm the idiot? Ok Trump is a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 46 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Think again. He's reminding other countries of what all we do. As GG stated above, he's most likely trying to firm up sanctions support. Yeah. He's that nuanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Or perhaps he'd like to point out the Japanese should pay for protection? (Pay more? I'm not sure how the US is compensated as Japan has a brown water navy and the US (as a blue water navy) escorts or intervenes for them.) And whatever other country(ies) we are protecting should pay more? Maybe one of the navy guys here could explain this (compensation, escort, US responsibilities, etc)? Or possibly it his way of highlighting that it isn't the US that directly is impacted? The US is definitely indirectly impacted as something like 25% of the world's energy flows (heh) through there, and if that supply is negatively impacted long term, it could bring on a worldwide depression. I have no specific idea what the purpose of President Trump's tweets were. The one thing I've learned over the last few years is people vastly underestimate Trump, and his tweets usually (not always) are serving a purpose. Our young nation paid the Portuguese protection money to keep the Barbary pirates from attacking our ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Yeah. He's that nuanced. Probably not, but he has done a good job reminding other countries and other bodies (such as the UN and Nato) that we're the night watchman that protects their ass and they would be wise to remember that before bitching about us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You like Trump because you hate the truth, reality and facts. You are making up total lies. And I'm the idiot? Ok Trump is a disaster Trump's been a very stand-up guy on Iran. He campaigned on getting out of the agreement, he did. He couldn't impose sanctions on Iran without violating the agreement so he exited the agreement and told everyone why. He's kept his word. Had he stayed in the agreement which was a 10 year deal as I recall, Iran would have been well positioned at that point to build a bomb. He's working to deter that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Yeah. He's that nuanced. Why not? Is it because you don't like his hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Trump's been a very stand-up guy on Iran. He campaigned on getting out of the agreement, he did. He couldn't impose sanctions on Iran without violating the agreement so he exited the agreement and told everyone why. He's kept his word. Had he stayed in the agreement which was a 10 year deal as I recall, Iran would have been well positioned at that point to build a bomb. He's working to deter that. He is? You know they have restarted their program, right? Nothing NOW is being done to deter them. Obama stopped them, under Trump they are not building one. Progress? Or Regression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: He is? You know they have restarted their program, right? Nothing NOW is being done to deter them. Obama stopped them, under Trump they are not building one. Progress? Or Regression? If we learn that they have acquired nuclear weapons on Trump's watch then we can be pissed. Until then let's see how it plays out. Iran has big problems as a result of the sanctions and that noose is getting tighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: If we learn that they have acquired nuclear weapons on Trump's watch then we can be pissed. Until then let's see how it plays out. Iran has big problems as a result of the sanctions and that noose is getting tighter. Sanctions didn't stop North Korea from building their nukes. Look at what sanctions did to the Iraqi population in the 1990's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Sanctions didn't stop North Korea from building their nukes. Look at what sanctions did to the Iraqi population in the 1990's What is the difference between Iran and North Korea as countries, along with their history of western ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 30 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Sanctions didn't stop North Korea from building their nukes. Look at what sanctions did to the Iraqi population in the 1990's The USIC helped NK get their nukes. They didn't try to stop them. (Clinton presidency) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The USIC helped NK get their nukes. They didn't try to stop them. (Clinton presidency) Clinton attacked Pearl Harbor, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: And I'm the idiot? Ok You said it, not me. Edited June 24, 2019 by Wacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I certainly sense a theme here today Tibsy's hysteria is rampant in every thread.................no matter the subject...............he has plugged his ears because everything we say is LIES. 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: You like Trump because you hate the truth, reality and facts. You are making up total lies. And I'm the idiot? Ok Trump is a disaster 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: He didn't open concentration camps, Trump did. And lies about it, of course. 40 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Why? Just makes you feel better to get on you sh it and spin and create a stupid mess? Only with crap smeared all around: 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Why do you even come here if everything you say and think a lie? People like you are seriously the backbone of Trump's support. . ?...................the personification of liberal temperament. . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 it's nice to have a President with an actual backbone, last one was RWR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: He is? You know they have restarted their program, right? Nothing NOW is being done to deter them. Obama stopped them, under Trump they are not building one. Progress? Or Regression? I agree with you--but how much should we send over this time? And to keep it honest, would you at least concur we should send the payoff in a way that we can trace it? How about we cash em out in recyclable plastic bottles? We could send them 10,000,000 Mountain Dews, you cant mistake the green (symbolism) and all the Ayatollah would have to do was visit a 7-11 in Tehran or Tabriz. Heck, they would help us save the planet in the process. I'm just spitballing here, I'm sure you have ideas as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Clinton attacked Pearl Harbor, too Must have been after he bombed Dresden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 55 minutes ago, Wacka said: You said it, not me. Shut up Wacka 17 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I agree with you--but how much should we send over this time? And to keep it honest, would you at least concur we should send the payoff in a way that we can trace it? How about we cash em out in recyclable plastic bottles? We could send them 10,000,000 Mountain Dews, you cant mistake the green (symbolism) and all the Ayatollah would have to do was visit a 7-11 in Tehran or Tabriz. Heck, they would help us save the planet in the process. I'm just spitballing here, I'm sure you have ideas as well. It must be awesome to be so uninformed. Life is so simple for you. 39 minutes ago, B-Man said: I certainly sense a theme here today Tibsy's hysteria is rampant in every thread.................no matter the subject...............he has plugged his ears because everything we say is LIES. . ?...................the personification of liberal temperament. . Lol, your incompetent president gets us to within ten minutes of a war his warmongering advisors want and your brainwashed ass just wants to pretend all is well. It's ok, because Trump will just lie about it. He he wants to make Iran great again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Facts don't matter when you have a narrative to push and an election to (steal) win. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Facts don't matter when you have a narrative to push and an election to (steal) win. Facts are that Obama paid Iran to perpetrate all kind of terrorist activity that no doubt killed some Americans along with other nationalities. Iran had not stopped their progress toward a nuclear weapon. Nowhere was it proposed that we invade Iran. Beto should stick to something he knows, like drunken hit and run accidents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: Clinton attacked Pearl Harbor, too No it was Crinton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: No it was Crinton Now, that's just not right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Dolphin and Whale dropped the A-bomb! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I'll slap this here instead of the border thread... Mexico has deployed nearly 15,000 soldiers and National Guardsmen to its border with the United States, the army chief said Monday -- admitting they are detaining migrants who try to cross, after the policy triggered backlash. Under pressure from US President Donald Trump to slow the surge of Central Americans crossing the border, Mexico promised earlier this month to reinforce its southern border with 6,000 National Guardsmen, but had not previously disclosed the extent of the crackdown on its northern border. "We have a total deployment, between the National Guard and army units, of 14,000, almost 15,000 men in the north of the country," Defense Minister Luis Cresencio Sandoval said at a press conference alongside President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador. Asked whether those forces were detaining migrants to prevent them from crossing, Sandoval replied: "Yes." </snip> 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Tiberius said: Shut up Wacka It must be awesome to be so uninformed. Life is so simple for you. Lol, your incompetent president gets us to within ten minutes of a war his warmongering advisors want and your brainwashed ass just wants to pretend all is well. It's ok, because Trump will just lie about i He he wants to make Iran great again I know cash is king. I know that for every infamous mafia Don hiding pallets of cash under Fido's doghouse, there are always boatloads of regular folks who look the other way, who figure the ends justify the means because they benefit directly from the schemes that are run. I think that's where you fall in this cautionary tale of the Obama admin, complicit in the cause. If I have misread you, and you just don't Do the Dew, we can run with Plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 14 hours ago, B-Man said: Tibsy's hysteria is rampant in every thread . Only when people like you quote him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Iranian president: Trump White House 'afflicted by mental ######ation' Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 So Bolton is over in Israel calling on Iran to withdraw from Syria. What about Russia? The Russians have murdered thousands of civilians and continue to bomb cities in the name of propping up a dictator. What did Putin get out of fixing the 2016 election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Iranian president: Trump White House 'afflicted by mental ######ation' Yes You must be a not so secret agent of Iran. According to you, we were 10 minutes away from a war with Iran. That means you were 10 minutes away from being a traitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 What's hilarious is the Iranian leader today saying Trump's policy is "mentally ######ed" You know you're winning when you get their leader to use the parlance of a 13 year old from 1992. Trump's response: 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: What's hilarious is the Iranian leader today saying Trump's policy is "mentally ######ed" You know you're winning when you get their leader to use the parlance of a 13 year old from 1992. Trump's response: Hear Hear! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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