Koko78 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 22 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: <br /> This is from National Interest, so take it for what it's worth: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/iranian-commander-kept-secret-israeli-f-35-stealth-fighters-had-violated-iran-airspace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, Koko78 said: This is from National Interest, so take it for what it's worth: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/iranian-commander-kept-secret-israeli-f-35-stealth-fighters-had-violated-iran-airspace a weekly announcement since the Carter Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Ya, no. This can go here or it can go under Trump lies. The mistake was pulling out of a deal that saw Iran allowing inspectors and had stopped them from enriching uranium in weapons grade levels. Amature hour in foreign policy on full display. Countries don't simply back down because they are being attacked. This whole policy is silly and counter productive ALL NEWS The Iranian regime took action today to increase its uranium enrichment. It was a mistake under the Iran nuclear deal to allow Iran to enrich uranium at any level. There is little doubt that even before the deal’s existence, Iran was violating its terms. We must restore the longstanding nonproliferation standard of no enrichment for Iran. The United States and its allies will never allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons. Maximum pressure on the Iranian regime will continue until its leaders alter their course of action. The regime must end its nuclear ambitions and its malign behavior. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-60/ 56 minutes ago, Koko78 said: This is from National Interest, so take it for what it's worth: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/iranian-commander-kept-secret-israeli-f-35-stealth-fighters-had-violated-iran-airspace Sounds just like Trump talking about Iran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 So the US pulls out of the deal. Iran threatens shipping in the ME. Iran tells world that if the US interferes they wipe Israel off the map. Liberals hate Israel. What’s the problem? Liberal agendas are so confusing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Tiberius said: The countries that were also forced by Trump to basically abandon the deal? I think they understand this is all Trumps fault that Iran is making a nuclear bomb now. Those other countries tried staying in the deal but the Trump team threatened them with sanctions, too. This is all Trumps mess Here is an article on international reaction from May 8, 2019. Not as straightforward as you make it out. Note: Trump's overlord, Putin, agrees with you. https://www.dw.com/en/iran-scraps-some-commitments-to-nuclear-deal/a-48646060 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Hedge said: Smells like they stopped something in progress re Iran or a proxy... (but that's a WAG) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGee Return TD Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Just now, Hedge said: not an emergency situation #deepstatethough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 It's okay, all. McGee knows what's happening and has assured everyone what it's not. (Heaven forbid people report on breaking news) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Has Hillary been blamed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: That's actually a really big story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 15 minutes ago, snafu said: Here is an article on international reaction from May 8, 2019. Not as straightforward as you make it out. Note: Trump's overlord, Putin, agrees with you. https://www.dw.com/en/iran-scraps-some-commitments-to-nuclear-deal/a-48646060 Trump pulled out of the deal. Trump is now complaing that Iran isn't staying in the deal. It really is that straight forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: Trump pulled out of the deal. Trump is now complaing that Iran isn't staying in the deal. It really is that straight forward. no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: That's actually a really big story. Perhaps related to the Pence story? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Koko78 said: This is from National Interest, so take it for what it's worth: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/iranian-commander-kept-secret-israeli-f-35-stealth-fighters-had-violated-iran-airspace Ha!....iranians blaming the Russians too. I’m going to blow off a few deadlines at work and blame Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, snafu said: no. Trump pulled out of a situation where we had international inspectors on the ground. Trump pulled out and is complaing that Iran won't stick to the Obama deal. Lol Trump really screwed up. He deserves to get voted out of office 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hedge said: Perhaps related to the Pence story? If there's a rescue operation in progress, then it certainly could be. Tom (maybe Sherpa) would know more about the Kursk incident, but we tried to rescue them once before but were denied (that's what Hunt for Red October was based on). Putin might be more amenable to a joint rescue op. ************* But this also is happening. Note the second tweet -- nothing to be alarmed about yet. But smells like something was stopped in progress... or something is about to go off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Emergency meetings all over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Story on the Russian sub (translate it): https://www.rbc.ru/society/02/07/2019/5d1b5c459a7947dae8135c47?from=from_main 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hedge said: Emergency meetings all over. But McGee assures everyone it's NOT an emergency 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtruelove Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Perhaps a nuclear sub? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump really screwed up. He deserves to get voted out of office That's a great bumper sticker. Maybe a t-shirt. Also, when you go to the D Convention next year, you can make a placard and wave it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, realtruelove said: Perhaps a nuclear sub? Definitely a nuclear sub... just not a missile boat (from what they say at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Get Alex Baldwin ready !................. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Get Alex Baldwin ready !................. (cough, notice their ID tags, cough) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (something is up) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Emergency_Support_Team 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Definitely a nuclear sub... just not a missile boat (from what they say at least). It's not. It's one of a handful of goofy special submarines that exist world-wide, for seabed work. The US used to have a similar one - one of Rickover's pet projects - but it was smaller (crew of 4) and I'm pretty sure has been retired since. It's probably completely unarmed - would be in the US Navy, but the Russians think differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 FLOTUS's plane just took off from DC too... If they're moving people around to secure locations it sure seems like there's some sort of active threat against the US gov't and personnel... (IF -- too early to tell, but lots of things happening over the past hour and half that should draw our attention) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 56 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: If there's a rescue operation in progress, then it certainly could be. Tom (maybe Sherpa) would know more about the Kursk incident, but we tried to rescue them once before but were denied (that's what Hunt for Red October was based on). Putin might be more amenable to a joint rescue op. Had some fun discussions on that one at the time, especially learning the tidbit that if Soviet torpedoes were peroxide powered, their effectiveness would degrade during the sub's deployment. 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: FLOTUS's plane just took off from DC too... If they're moving people around to secure locations it sure seems like there's some sort of active threat against the US gov't and personnel... (IF -- too early to tell, but lots of things happening over the past hour and half that should draw our attention) Something tells me to avoid mass transit hubs this week 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 https://news.yahoo.com/eu-leaders-name-belgian-prime-170703107.html 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://news.yahoo.com/eu-leaders-name-belgian-prime-170703107.html There's the strategery. Iran is so focused on the Iran-US dynamic, they forgot that it's a multilateral agreement, not bilateral. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 *fog of war* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Hedge said: *fog of war* I'm not putting much faith in "EndGameWW3." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 ****************** 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 This is a whole lot of nothing. Building security has no alerts, and they definitely would. If something of this magnitude were really happening, I'd see pairs of guards in body armor carrying loaded M-4s patrolling the block (which I've seen before, for much less). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: This is a whole lot of nothing. Building security has no alerts, and they definitely would. If something of this magnitude were really happening, I'd see pairs of guards in body armor carrying loaded M-4s patrolling the block (which I've seen before, for much less). This is probably a dumb question, but if there were an alert in your building, would it be frowned upon for you to make that information public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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