Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 18 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: I buy it because that's what I'm told, constantly, by active duty members. It's also backed up by facts. The previous administration's policy was to leave the men and women on the ground exposed -- to both enemy fire and litigation from their own country. The ROE's enforced on the soldiers turned them into lawyers on the battlefield rather than what they're trained/supposed to be doing. I've heard this from multiple sources as well. Some of the specifics are pretty gruesome, like ROEs that wouldn't let fire bases respond at all to mortar bombardments. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 354-60 Republicans are breaking. Ominous sign as the impeachment vote nears 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Not the actions or words of a man who's scared. The dnc is so forked. Please tell me there's video... 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 ? I'm going to miss President Trump come 2025. There will never be another like him. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Not the actions or words of a man who's scared. The dnc is so forked. Please tell me there's video... The left is going to eat that up. "Pelosi stands up to a room full of cis-patriarchal old white men. Yay, Feminism! #CaptainMarvelous" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I'm dead. "He was insulting..." (does Chuck think the left have been polite for the past three years? get the ***** out of here, Chuck. No one buys your *****) 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: lol The sheep eat it up. This letter is dumb as ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 20 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: I buy it because that's what I'm told, constantly, by active duty members. It's also backed up by facts. The previous administration's policy was to leave the men and women on the ground exposed -- to both enemy fire and litigation from their own country. The ROE's enforced on the soldiers turned them into lawyers on the battlefield rather than what they're trained/supposed to be doing. That cost lives. Worse, the previous (several) administrations left the military vastly unprepared for the two decades worth of endless war we've asked them to perform. This administration's policies put the soldiers lives first, and they love him for it. It's not a controversial idea, it's just a fact. What happened in terms of the show of force is 100% in line with that policy/philosophy. Turkey endangered our pilots -- so a (non lethal) message was sent to deter that from repeating. I spoke to a vet today, unrelated to the politics of the day. He volunteered how “amazing” his recent visits to the local VA have been the last couple years. Quite a change from years past, he said. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Trump reportedly called Jim Mattis the 'world's most overrated general' in a chaotic meeting on Syria President Donald Trump belittled his former defense secretary, Jim Mattis, by characterizing him as the "world's most overrated general," according to a Washington Post report published Wednesday. The account from numerous officials came during an afternoon closed door meeting with congressional leaders in the Cabinet Room of the White House on Wednesday. In the meeting, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer reportedly brought up dissenting views towards the president's decision to withdraw the vast majority of roughly 1,000 US troops stationed in Syria. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-jim-mattis-most-overrated-general-2019-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 The Dems have a perfect solution for Syria and Turkey? The world would love to hear it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdnlng Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, ALF said: Trump reportedly called Jim Mattis the 'world's most overrated general' in a chaotic meeting on Syria President Donald Trump belittled his former defense secretary, Jim Mattis, by characterizing him as the "world's most overrated general," according to a Washington Post report published Wednesday. The account from numerous officials came during an afternoon closed door meeting with congressional leaders in the Cabinet Room of the White House on Wednesday. In the meeting, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer reportedly brought up dissenting views towards the president's decision to withdraw the vast majority of roughly 1,000 US troops stationed in Syria. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-says-jim-mattis-most-overrated-general-2019-10 As an Independent, are you ever going to post something that is not on the left side of the spectrum or not critical of Trump? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 The media (especially NBC) is not your friend. They're not truth tellers or objective journalists. They're partisan warriors from top to bottom. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: And...Nancy has changed her Twitter banner to this picture. https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi ? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Donners, disingenuous *****. https://twitter.com/lawyer4laws/status/1184674024175132673 Edited October 17, 2019 by Foxx 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Foxx said: Donners, disingenuous *****. https://twitter.com/lawyer4laws/status/1184674024175132673 So, Dear Leader Pelosi tweeted this out? I think that would refer to a meeting scheduled for today. Hmmmn, why does a cancelled meeting even bother her if she's just going to walk out? Nancy PelosiVerified account @SpeakerPelosi 19h19 hours ago More Copy link to Tweet Embed Tweet I am deeply concerned that the White House has canceled an all-Member classified briefing on the dangerous situation the President has caused in Syria, denying the Congress its right to be informed as it makes decisions about our national security. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) If everyone is losing their minds over Syria, just wait until Trump (or another President) finally pulls the plug on Afghanistan. At least in Syria, you have the Russians, a resilient Syrian government, battle-tested Kurds and a state (Turkey) that can be hurt via sanctions. In Afghanistan, there will be nobody to stop the inevitable Taliban offensive and obscenely bloody wave of reprisal killings. Edited October 17, 2019 by dpberr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Foxx Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: So, Dear Leader Pelosi tweeted this out? I think that would refer to a meeting scheduled for today. Hmmmn, why does a cancelled meeting even bother her if she's just going to walk out?... posturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Uh. This makes a huge difference and it’s not really close The Elite Hates The Trump Doctrine Because It Puts America First by Kurt Schlichter Original Article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 What a joke lol Turkey gets everything they want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: What a joke lol Turkey gets everything they want ******************************************************** 10 minutes ago, Hedge said: there goes another Donner narrative down the drain if it holds. tff Edited October 17, 2019 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Hedge said: The YPG? The militia of the Russian-backed designated terrorist group PKK? That YPG? Didn't someone mention them weeks ago, in relation to the question "Who are the Kurds?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 • YPG would withdraw 20miles YPG is an acronym whose translation means People's Protection Units. It is the home grown defense forces of the Kurdish area of Syria The USA have usually supported the YPG militia in its fight against ISIL, both with air support in combat and with embedded US Special Forces. The Kurdish military force would have to withdraw from the Turkey border. Will the Kurdish civilians who have always lived in this 20 mile region be allowed to stay in their homes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, ALF said: • YPG would withdraw 20miles YPG is an acronym whose translation means People's Protection Units. It is the home grown defense forces of the Kurdish area of Syria No, it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, DC Tom said: No, it's not. What is the YPG in the agreement ? What Kurdish military lost 11,000 lives helping the US defeat ISIS ? Edited October 17, 2019 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, B-Man said: Uh. This makes a huge difference and it’s not really close The Elite Hates The Trump Doctrine Because It Puts America First by Kurt Schlichter Original Article So in short order we should pull out of South Korea, Japan, Germany, Poland too right? I mean we gotta be consistent....while we are at it....i mean we have been concerned with Israel for 70 years....they can do their own thing too.... Sick of paying for those bases! Edited October 17, 2019 by TH3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, TH3 said: So in short order we should pull out of South Korea, Japan, Germany, Poland too right? I mean we gotta be consistent.... Germany is pretty much gone now so I say yes let them enjoy their love of globalism and the EU. Korea as well. Trump did his part backing of N.Korea so South Korea should step up and build a better defense. Japan and Poland I would stay if desired by them. The Polish and Hungarian leaders know which way is up and Japan has been good with us for a long time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, TH3 said: So in short order we should pull out of South Korea, Japan, Germany, Poland too right? Yes....we should! It’s the 21st Century. We can be back there in hours if we need to be. All of this is just legacy of wars gone by long ago and a private contractor machine that has an ever hungry customer base called the US military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, TH3 said: So in short order we should pull out of South Korea, Japan, Germany, Poland too right? I mean we gotta be consistent....while we are at it....i mean we have been concerned with Israel for 70 years....they can do their own thing too.... Sick of paying for those bases! Consistency does NOT mean comparing strategic bases that have been in place for a half a century with a few hundred troops on the Syrian border. But no one expects any better from you. . Edited October 17, 2019 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 51 minutes ago, Dante said: Japan has been good with us for a long time now. Also is an amazing tourist destination. Everything is clean and orderly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Romney, 72, expressed frustration that the U.S. had caved to Turkey's demands, asking, "Are we so weak and so inept diplomatically that Turkey forced the hand of the United States of America? Turkey?" https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mitt-romney-on-turkey-cease-fire-american-honor-has-already-been-tarnished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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