RochesterRob Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 54 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Two Saudi Oil tankers attacked in the Gulf! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/two-saudi-oil-tankers-attacked-in-the-persian-gulf-amid-rising-iran-tensions/2019/05/13/c8907108-755e-11e9-bd25-c989555e7766_story.html?utm_term=.580cd853ba6d Higher gas prices anyone? Gulf News Business (@GulfNewsBiz) Oil prices spike by 2% following attack Any further disruptions will stoke fears of supply crunch, analysts saygulfnews.com/business/e…gulfnews.com/business/e… Yugo's are supposed to have pretty good gas mileage so you should be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Yugo's are supposed to have pretty good gas mileage so you should be good to go. You go, we go, it goes! Gas prices are already rising, now this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: Two Saudi Oil tankers attacked in the Gulf! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/two-saudi-oil-tankers-attacked-in-the-persian-gulf-amid-rising-iran-tensions/2019/05/13/c8907108-755e-11e9-bd25-c989555e7766_story.html?utm_term=.580cd853ba6d Higher gas prices anyone? Gulf News Business (@GulfNewsBiz) Oil prices spike by 2% following attack Any further disruptions will stoke fears of supply crunch, analysts saygulfnews.com/business/e…gulfnews.com/business/e… Bring it on. I'm long oil, natural gas, and gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 5 hours ago, B-Man said: SNUBBBED: Queen Declines To Invite London Mayor Sadiq Khan To Trump State Dinner. . Khan tells Elizabeth II not to invite Trump to a state dinner because something something something #orangemanbad Elizabeth II invites Trump to a state dinner Khan is not invited 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Bring it on. I'm long oil, natural gas, and gold. Really? short term play? I am convinced oil will be trading at less than $15/barrel in 5 years, just have no clue how to make that long range bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 World War 3!!!! IRAN AND THE WEST White House Reviews Military Plans Against Iran, in Echoes of Iraq War The plans envision sending up to 120,000 troops to the Middle East should Iran attack U.S. forces or accelerate nuclear weapons work, officials said. They were updated at the insistence of hard-liners led by John R. Bolton, President Trump’s national security adviser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 So if I understand it correctly, Iran is saying that if the West doesn't want to abide by the deal everyone signed in 2015 with ostensibly good intentions, then the ONLY alternative is for it to start a war with Saudi Arabia? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, GG said: So if I understand it correctly, Iran is saying that if the West doesn't want to abide by the deal everyone signed in 2015 with ostensibly good intentions, then the ONLY alternative is for it to start a war with Saudi Arabia? Pretty much. They're desperate. The IRGC has been defecting in droves. Hamas/Hezbollah financing has been strangled making it difficult to replace the losses they've suffered in the field over the past three years of sustained action against the GCC and western allies. The Mullah's aren't long for this world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Pretty much. They're desperate. The IRGC has been defecting in droves. Hamas/Hezbollah financing has been strangled making it difficult to replace the losses they've suffered in the field over the past three years of sustained action against the GCC and western allies. The Mullah's aren't long for this world. Not without a war, invasion and occupation. Maduro is still in power as is Assad. Both with the backing of Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: Not without a war, invasion and occupation. Maduro is still in power as is Assad. Both with the backing of Putin. No invasion. No war. They will fall from within. They've been prepping the region for this for two straight years. (There will be Israeli/GCC/Special forces operations to protect civilians from the Mullah's wrath -- but not invasion or "war") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: No invasion. No war. They will fall from within. They've been prepping the region for this for two straight years. (There will be Israeli/GCC/Special forces operations to protect civilians from the Mullah's wrath -- but not invasion or "war") Who will take over? Is there a provisional government ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Who will take over? Is there a provisional government ready? The Iranian people will take over and get their country back. The Iranian people have a much more western leaning government structure than anyone else in the region bar Israel. The Mullahs could leave today and the government would carry on unimpeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 A Saudi oil pipeline was attacked by drones, causing “limited damage,” the Saudi energy minister said on Tuesday, a day after Saudi Arabia said two of its oil tankers had been damaged in an act of sabotage, ratcheting up tensions in the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Just now, Hedge said: A Saudi oil pipeline was attacked by drones, causing “limited damage,” the Saudi energy minister said on Tuesday, a day after Saudi Arabia said two of its oil tankers had been damaged in an act of sabotage, ratcheting up tensions in the region. I wouldn't put it past the Mullahs to stage their own Gulf of Tonkin type incident once they realize these tricks/attacks aren't going to provoke the response they wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: The Iranian people will take over and get their country back. The Iranian people have a much more western leaning government structure than anyone else in the region bar Israel. The Mullahs could leave today and the government would carry on unimpeded. Ahhh! Like they took over in Iraq! Like Al-Sadr! 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: I wouldn't put it past the Mullahs to stage their own Gulf of Tonkin type incident once they realize these tricks/attacks aren't going to provoke the response they wish. ? Huh? You mean they will start a wider war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ahhh! Like they took over in Iraq! Like Al-Sadr! In an attempt to have a serious conversation -- Iraq 2003 was in no way, shape, or form like Iran in 2019. What was the primary reason Iraq remained so unstable for so long post invasion? Iranian interference. Who killed more US personnel in Iraq than AQ or the Revolutionary Guard? Iranian forces and their proxies. Who funds more terror than any other nation state? Iran. If the Mullahs fall, there won't be the fallout there was in Iraq because Iran was, and always has been, the dirtiest actor in the region. 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: ? Huh? You mean they will start a wider war? Yes. A US attack on Iran (even a false flag) would allow the Mullahs to play the victim on the international stage and within their own population. It will allow them to dig in. War is a distraction they desperately want -- that's how bad things are for the Mullahs in Iran today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Who will take over? Is there a provisional government ready? If it doesn’t get reduced to rubble, Iran has decent infrastructure. There would be a power vacuum but there’s a structure to support the power. Contrary to the Boom Week Theory (TM), this won’t happen overnight. Right now it’s some well-timed saber-rattling. Edited May 14, 2019 by BeginnersMind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: In an attempt to have a serious conversation -- Iraq 2003 was in no way, shape, or form like Iran in 2019. What was the primary reason Iraq remained so unstable for so long post invasion? Iranian interference. Who killed more US personnel in Iraq than AQ or the Revolutionary Guard? Iranian forces and their proxies. Who funds more terror than any other nation state? Iran. If the Mullahs fall, there won't be the fallout there was in Iraq because Iran was, and always has been, the dirtiest actor in the region. Yes. A US attack on Iran (even a false flag) would allow the Mullahs to play the victim on the international stage and within their own population. It will allow them to dig in. War is a distraction they desperately want -- that's how bad things are for the Mullahs in Iran today. Yes, Iran is much bigger and ethnically diverse and militarily superior to anything Iraq was in 2003. Iran would be an even bigger disaster if it fell apart or whatever. 9 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: If it doesn’t get reduced to rubble, Iran has decent infrastructure. There would be a power vacuum but there’s a structure to support the power. Contrary to the Boom Week Theory (TM), this won’t happen overnight. Right now it’s some well-timed saber-rattling. It's got an air of 'tail wagging the dog' about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes, Iran is much bigger and ethnically diverse and militarily superior to anything Iraq was in 2003. Iran would be an even bigger disaster if it fell apart or whatever. The point is that it won't fall apart. The people don't support the Mullahs, the Mullahs hold power, they're not chosen to be in power. The people have a government that would function with or without the Mullahs. And with the Mullahs/IRGC/Hezbollah/Hamas removed, there would be far fewer external bad actors trying to cause chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: The point is that it won't fall apart. The people don't support the Mullahs, the Mullahs hold power, they're not chosen to be in power. The people have a government that would function with or without the Mullahs. And with the Mullahs/IRGC/Hezbollah/Hamas removed, there would be far fewer external bad actors trying to cause chaos. The Persian majority in that country could face some serious separatists movements that could rip the place apart. It's all held together by force now, when that's gone who knows what will happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: The Persian majority in that country could face some serious separatists movements that could rip the place apart. It's all held together by force now, when that's gone who knows what will happen They'll be fine. This is what they want as much as what the world needs. (for clarity the bottom picture is a joke -- since there are those who lack senses of humor) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) I hear the Shah's son is just sittin' around, waiting to help out. Jimmy Carter... shesh. He's gotta be "thankful" Obama was such a *****-up. Now Carter's only the second worst President in US history. (And I hope he makes a full recovery and is out hunting again in no time.) Edited May 14, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: They'll be fine. This is what they want as much as what the world needs. (for clarity the bottom picture is a joke -- since there are those who lack senses of humor) Obviously it's a joke. Iran didn't go from the early 60's to RenFaire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hedge said: He's the guy you definitely want to be following on Twitter during this. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: He's the guy you definitely want to be following on Twitter during this. Correct. He's wired in -- though (for the sake of objectivity) he has a clear agenda. It's just (imo) the proper agenda to be pushing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I posted this same picture here years ago. It is Iranians before the revolution: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Obviously it's a joke. Iran didn't go from the early 60's to RenFaire. it was about as swinging a place as could be in the Middle East lots of older relatives and their friends headed over to "find themselves" in the early 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hedge Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) Beijing calls for a 'people's war' against the US as Trump threatens tariffs on another $300 billion of Chinese goods in all-out trade battle Quote "The most important thing is that in the China-US trade war, the US side fights for greed and arrogance ... and morale will break at any point. The Chinese side is fighting back to protect its legitimate interests," the nationalistic Global Times tabloid wrote Taking a page out of the Leftist playbook. Edited May 14, 2019 by Hedge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, Hedge said: Beijing calls for a 'people's war' against the US as Trump threatens tariffs on another $300 billion of Chinese goods in all-out trade battle Taking a page out of the Leftist playbook. Tibs could have wrote that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Just now, RochesterRob said: Tibs could have wrote that. only if it was written in crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, Hedge said: Beijing calls for a 'people's war' against the US as Trump threatens tariffs on another $300 billion of Chinese goods in all-out trade battle Taking a page out of the Leftist playbook. Uhm, they were the primary writers of many chapters of that book. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 On 5/7/2019 at 10:15 AM, GG said: Best thing about the link is a new Jewbee dance Late to the party. Thems must be Texas Jew-boys, as Kinky Big Dick Freeman would say. Line dancin’ at a BarMitzvah. On 5/7/2019 at 11:52 AM, Buffalo_Gal said: Trump administration forces China to sell the Port of Long Beach The Trump Administration's Department of Homeland Security has forced China's state-owned Cosco* to sell the Port of Long Beach over security concerns. China's Cosco Shipping Holdings, which bought out its 75 percent–owned Hong Kong–based Orient Overseas International (OOCL), was forced to sell its Port of Long Beach Container Terminal ownership to Macquarie Infrastructure Partners for $1.78 billion. </snip> This from the comments: The headline is a little misleading. COSCO doesn't own the Port of Long Beach which is an enormous operation. COSCO has a container terminal in one section of the port. This goes back to the Clinton years. When the former Long Beach Naval Station and Shipyard was being closed, China wanted it and Bill Clinton was all for selling or leasing it to them. Saner heads prevailed and the deal didn't go through. The property eventually did become a gargantuan container port, but COSCO had to settle for much less pier space, and being just another tenant in the Port of Long Beach. Clinton’s again. Is there nothing those grifters wouldn’t pawn to line their own pockets? White hill trash. On 5/8/2019 at 12:54 PM, Hedge said: It's hump day! Plastic. Why did it have to be plastic? All these years I’ve envisioned it being a paper straw. BTW, those humps look like the Sierra Nevada mountain range. On 5/8/2019 at 5:10 PM, Hedge said: Anytime I see someone from the Trump administration waxing poetic about the special bond between the US/UK, I wonder exactly what they have been compelled to give us. Assange alone, wouldn't even come close to atoning for their sins. Spoken for truth. They need to give up some of their plotters and all the royalties to The Beatles and Rolling Stones songs and the entire James Bond series of movies. Oh, and throw in the Monty Python syndicate to boot. And of course, the Benny Hill library as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koko78 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Well, looks like someone wants to live. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: He’s a moderate now, out of bullets and missiles and aircraft carriers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: He’s a moderate now, out of bullets and missiles and aircraft carriers amazing what happens when we stop sending them pallets of unmarked foreign currency 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: The only good Iran is an Iran that doesn't exist. Don't we remember them chanting "Death to America"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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