outsidethebox Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Trump has virtue, lmfao. As as an academically trained historian I could write, academically, “the available eveidence suggests that Trump is a draft-dodging, pedophile.” I could write that in an academic paper and source it. Trump Nation says the man has virtue. Narcissistic much? Someone needs to pop your balloon head before it gets too big. 19 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Source your proof. He has no proof. Just another radical leftie pretending he's really a Republican. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 27 minutes ago, westside said: Narcissistic much? Someone needs to pop your balloon head before it gets too big. He has no proof. Just another radical leftie pretending he's really a Republican. he was put on ignore again after yesterday you can't fake being conservative, you won't pass the second question we ask you.... not a hope... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, The_Dude said: 1. Trump is virtueless. 2. Germany and Japan don’t have large armies due to our telling them that. 3. It was a good plan, you’re an idiot, and no he’s not a war criminal. The plan was sound, the execution wasn’t. Churchill wasn’t responsible for the execution. And Churchill resigned as Lord of the Admitalty after and got in the trenches. If you want to slanderize Churchill I suggest you use his time while he served as the exchequer. 4. Your simple analysis of the Vietnam War is most likely thanks to a Ken Burns documentary. Your Vietnam point is still not a point. Ok. 50,000 soldiers died. The tragedy of their deaths is we didn’t win the war they were winning. 5. John McCain is a man of honor and he fought and was tortured for this country. You’re just an insignificant person with the internet. 6. I own maps and study warfare daily. I’m good buddy. I’d respond but that is a jumble of nonsense. 1. In one post you say Trump is virtueless, yet in another post you say Trump has virtue. "Trump has virtue, lmfao." 2. Germany and Japan don't do s... Because it's in their Constitution. It is much easier and cheaper to leave it to the USofA. 3. Churchill was a bag of wind with one famous quote. He ordered the fire bombing of Dresden, an art city packed with civilians and war wounded. It's no coincidence that 1945 was his last year in office. 4. The Vietnam War was a Civil War we never should have been involved in. Your "containment theory being reasonable given the circumstances of the time" is laughable given that no dominoes fell after the fall of Vietnam. The part about not winning a war we were winning is also a good one. 5. John McCain is a man of honor? Except in the matter of the Keating five, divorcing his disabled wife, and leaving the damaged carrier for some R&R, etc, etc. 6. You view yourself as an academic, a student of warfare. Thankfully you don't make policy or command troops. You have more in common with Dr. Strangelove then Doc Holliday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, Niagara said: 1. In one post you say Trump is virtueless, yet in another post you say Trump has virtue. "Trump has virtue, lmfao." 2. Germany and Japan don't do s... Because it's in their Constitution. It is much easier and cheaper to leave it to the USofA. 3. Churchill was a bag of wind with one famous quote. He ordered the fire bombing of Dresden, an art city packed with civilians and war wounded. It's no coincidence that 1945 was his last year in office. 4. The Vietnam War was a Civil War we never should have been involved in. Your "containment theory being reasonable given the circumstances of the time" is laughable given that no dominoes fell after the fall of Vietnam. The part about not winning a war we were winning is also a good one. 5. John McCain is a man of honor? Except in the matter of the Keating five, divorcing his disabled wife, and leaving the damaged carrier for some R&R, etc, etc. 6. You view yourself as an academic, a student of warfare. Thankfully you don't make policy or command troops. You have more in common with Dr. Strangelove then Doc Holliday. You're an idiot for treating The_Dude like he's not an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, DC Tom said: You're an idiot for treating The_Dude like he's not an idiot. The_Dude is far from an idiot, it's just too much energy and no return to do a close reading on his posts.... too bad.... concise gets the message across far better... edit: sorry..... NOT ENOUGH return was meant, not NO return... Edited July 20, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, joesixpack said: Source your proof. https://thinkprogress.org/trump-beauty-pageants-naked-2dc4b6c6d507/ i could hunt for others that come from significantly less biased sources, but this one works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: You're an idiot for treating The_Dude like he's not an idiot. You mean putting our troops in Ukraine is a bad idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You mean putting our troops in Ukraine is a bad idea? send them to Nam, will be over in a week, just need another 200,000 on the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, DC Tom said: You're an idiot for treating The_Dude like he's not an idiot. Idiot? No. Am I an extremist? Yeah. Kinda. A little. By all means, Tom, let me know where I’m wrong. Just now, 3rdnlng said: You mean putting our troops in Ukraine is a bad idea? Its a great idea. Just now, row_33 said: send them to Nam, will be over in a week, just need another 200,000 on the ground... That war was lost by liberals at home. We didn’t even need to lose 50,000 men. We could have ended it quickly but there were liberal cowards scared of the Russian response if we nuked Hanoi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Idiot? No. Am I an extremist? Yeah. Kinda. A little. By all means, Tom, let me know where I’m wrong. Its a great idea. That war was lost by liberals at home. We didn’t even need to lose 50,000 men. We could have ended it quickly but there were liberal cowards scared of the Russian response if we nuked Hanoi. Nuking Hanoi, eh? Sounds er, reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Nuking Hanoi, eh? Sounds er, reasonable. liberals are always looking to bomb people, while saying Conservatives are cowboys socialist want to round up "the other" and exterminate them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Niagara said: 1. In one post you say Trump is virtueless, yet in another post you say Trump has virtue. "Trump has virtue, lmfao." 2. Germany and Japan don't do s... Because it's in their Constitution. It is much easier and cheaper to leave it to the USofA. 3. Churchill was a bag of wind with one famous quote. He ordered the fire bombing of Dresden, an art city packed with civilians and war wounded. It's no coincidence that 1945 was his last year in office. 4. The Vietnam War was a Civil War we never should have been involved in. Your "containment theory being reasonable given the circumstances of the time" is laughable given that no dominoes fell after the fall of Vietnam. The part about not winning a war we were winning is also a good one. 5. John McCain is a man of honor? Except in the matter of the Keating five, divorcing his disabled wife, and leaving the damaged carrier for some R&R, etc, etc. 6. You view yourself as an academic, a student of warfare. Thankfully you don't make policy or command troops. You have more in common with Dr. Strangelove then Doc Holliday. 1. Sarcasm. Do you know what LMFAO means? 2. Yeah — and they know we’re a benevolent people. 3. YOU THINK YOU KNOW BUT YOU DONT. The available evidence suggests that Churchill ordered the terror bombings as a means of trying to invoke an in kind response from Hitler. And he got it. The Battle of Britain then turned into the “blitz.” The RAF was almost fought out. German bombers were destroying airfields faster than Britain could repair them. The RAF was estimated to have 2 weeks worth of fight left in them. In order to continue the fight Churchill made the admirable decision to instigate Hitler into attacking his people over his Air Force so they could continue the fight. And did Churchill hide in his bunker during the blitz? No. He went to watch the “fireworks” at night. 4. I support the idea of containment like how I supported the concepts of the initial bolsheviks. They didn’t know it wasn’t gonna work then. Hindsight is 20-20 so to properly gauge the thinking at the time one must ignore future results as that evidence wasn’t available to the people at the time. The strategy was sound as is the concept that a wars reason for initiation is immaterial once the war commences. Iraq and Afghanistan are a result of gutless Americans quitting in Vietnam. Also, Reagan’s inaction after the lunchtime slaughter of 200 marines gives the enemy hope. 5. John McCain is an American hero. How dare you criticize his war record in an attempt to defend a douchebag that didn’t go. 6. i don’t care what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Idiot? No. if we nuked Hanoi. Idiot, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Nuking Hanoi, eh? Sounds er, reasonable. We coulda used MacArthurs Korea strategy and nuked the Ho Chi Minh trail. We could have turned it into a radioactive barrier that would have cut off the NVA with significantly less collateral damage. That was an unused option. 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: Idiot, yes. Whoa fella, I’ll never get up after that one. Clemency? Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Whoa fella, I’ll never get up after that one. Clemency? Please? nah. anyone who believes that nuking anything is a legitimate solution to anything is probably unhinged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, joesixpack said: nah. anyone who believes that nuking anything is a legitimate solution to anything is probably unhinged. yup, conservatives are the only ones who value human life, both actual people and people "out there" responsible use of weapons is important, hopefully we never see a nuclear bomb used ever again but if you have to, then by all means... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, joesixpack said: nah. anyone who believes that nuking anything is a legitimate solution to anything is probably unhinged. I believe in slaughtering savages over spilling precious American blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, The_Dude said: 6. i don’t care what you think. I now agree with the consensus, yes you are an Idiot, Phd from Buffoon U. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Niagara said: I now agree with the consensus, yes you are an Idiot, Phd from Buffoon U. that's why The Dude is on ignore, barely any useful return for the time wasted arguing with hiim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, Niagara said: I now agree with the consensus, yes you are an Idiot, Phd from Buffoon U. Que the drums! I'm an idiot from Buffoon U! Whoa, sure it wasn't Clown U? I mean have ya checked my transcripts? Could be Clown U? Boy would you feel silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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