abc Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Nice try though completion % doesn't mean Accuracy Nice try? So you think the data is incorrect? I didn't present any qualifiers as to it's interpretation other than the implied one of actual results on the field being a useful comparative tool. Statistics never have 100% correlation to any one thing. Only when taken as a composite of data points, in the context of the situation are they useful. If you choose to ignore or discount the data that doesn't fit into your worldview....so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Nice try though completion % doesn't mean Accuracy I know EJ had more Turnovers. However a turnover can be the result of a Bad pass, a tipped ball that the WR dropped. I was talking accuracy and found it interesting that TT and EJ have every similar Bad Pass numbers Hence interesting stat of the day This topic isn't about accuracy, it's about being a closer. I personally don't trust someone who has almost an equal TD/Turnover rate to close a game over someone with over a 3:1 rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I do think the OP makes a valid argument that Taylor doesn't seem to have the requisite skill set to come from behind. But neither does EJ. I'd continue sprinkling EJ into the game and using him for hard counts, QB sneaks, and bootlegs. I'd also try EJ as a receiver in the wildcat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I would suggest stop drinking Utica Club and try a good beer instead. Life is too short to be drinking that sort of ballerina piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Why not just put EJ as the opener, then we would never have to worry about blown 4th Q leads---or any leads, really. Let hi lose from the beginning of the game...just get it over with early so we can flip over to the NFC game on Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Put down the crack pipe afore you hurt yousef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I was laughing when EJ came in for a brief spell this year. The only pass he threw was straight into tight triple coverage that should have been picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) This has to be one of the most moronic ideas I have ever read on this message board. Edited October 27, 2016 by DDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) If been thinking of this as well. In EJ's 16 games HE HAS DONE IT 3 or 4 times. In 21 games, Hotrod had done it ZERO times although been given plenty of opportunities. Some guys are good at this like Roger Staubach or Jim Kelly (not saying EJ is near as good as either of these HOFers). Some guys aren't like Trent and Hotrod. In the 2nd Patsies** game last year when Hotrod couldn't even throw but still went back in I was hoping they'd put EJ in to give it a try. Be honest, when behind with <2:00 to play, who feels confident Hotrod can make get us a score to retake the lead or tie? Why not try it? What have we got to lose? Once we're behind late with Hotrod, we're toast anyway. Why keep beating our head against the wall? Edited October 27, 2016 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 If been thinking of this as well. In EJ's 16 games HE HAS DONE IT 3 or 4 times. In 21 games, Hotrod had done it ZERO times although been given plenty of opportunities. Some guys are good at this like Roger Staubach or Jim Kelly (not saying EJ is near as good as either of these HOFers). Some guys aren't like Trent and Hotrod. In the 2nd Patsies** game last year when Hotrod couldn't even throw but still went back in I was hoping they'd put EJ in to give it a try. Be honest, when behind with <2:00 to play, who feels confident Hotrod can make get us a score to retake the lead or tie? Why not try it? What have we got to lose? Once we're behind late with Hotrod, we're toast anyway. Why keep beating our head against the wall? Better draft position in 2017. Question answered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 If been thinking of this as well. In EJ's 16 games HE HAS DONE IT 3 or 4 times. In 21 games, Hotrod had done it ZERO times although been given plenty of opportunities. Some guys are good at this like Roger Staubach or Jim Kelly (not saying EJ is near as good as either of these HOFers). Some guys aren't like Trent and Hotrod. In the 2nd Patsies** game last year when Hotrod couldn't even throw but still went back in I was hoping they'd put EJ in to give it a try. Be honest, when behind with <2:00 to play, who feels confident Hotrod can make get us a score to retake the lead or tie? Why not try it? What have we got to lose? Once we're behind late with Hotrod, we're toast anyway. Why keep beating our head against the wall? Done what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Done what? Bring the team from behind late to win. Isn't that what we're talking about here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Can't spell reject without an E and a J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Bring the team from behind late to win. Isn't that what we're talking about here?Taylor is 12-9 as a starter. Manuel is 6-10. Taylor has been better with respect to every conceivable statistic there is to measure a QB's performance. I'm sorry if he wins too comfortably for your liking. And aside from the Panthers game, which was aided by a very fortunate PI call, I cannot recall EJ leading any valiant 4th quarter comebacks. Edited October 27, 2016 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Honestly, with the lack of playmakers - and knowing you would prefer to not have tyrod get injured. Why not bring in EJ for some read option packages. Can even have tyrod run some routes out there in a couple quick package plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 If been thinking of this as well. In EJ's 16 games HE HAS DONE IT 3 or 4 times. In 21 games, Hotrod had done it ZERO times although been given plenty of opportunities. Some guys are good at this like Roger Staubach or Jim Kelly (not saying EJ is near as good as either of these HOFers). Some guys aren't like Trent and Hotrod. In the 2nd Patsies** game last year when Hotrod couldn't even throw but still went back in I was hoping they'd put EJ in to give it a try. Be honest, when behind with <2:00 to play, who feels confident Hotrod can make get us a score to retake the lead or tie? Why not try it? What have we got to lose? Once we're behind late with Hotrod, we're toast anyway. Why keep beating our head against the wall? Taylor is 12-9 as a starter. Manuel is 6-10. Taylor has been better with respect to every conceivable statistic there is to measure a QB's performance. I'm sorry if he wins too comfortably for your liking. And aside from the Panthers game, which was aided by a very fortunate PI call, I cannot recall EJ leading any valiant 4th quarter comebacks. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/comebacks_active.htm EJ certainly has not led 3 or 4 comebacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Neither is a starting caliber QB at this level. EJ does seem to do better when he is unscripted. Whatever magic/ spark we saw two summers ago from TT is clearly gone, like Edwards after his concussion. This is why we need to lose out and draft a QB Really! I guess we should draft a guy like Jax's QB or perhaps Houston's. Even Wentz, who I like a lot, seems to have regressed a bit from his fast start. Is the draft a crap shoot ? You bet. For the time being, I'll stick with our guy until at least the end of the year. Don't forget that we have a third QB on the team who hopefully will benefit from his year on the bench. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 UC, I give you credit. You knew you were going to get clobbered posting this idea but you did it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Really! I guess we should draft a guy like Jax's QB or perhaps Houston's. Even Wentz, who I like a lot, seems to have regressed a bit from his fast start. Is the draft a crap shoot ? You bet. For the time being, I'll stick with our guy until at least the end of the year. Don't forget that we have a third QB on the team who hopefully will benefit from his year on the bench. We shall see. I'll give you Jones, but the 4-3 record is soon going to look like a dream unless we face Brisset this week again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It's a big silly but as much as some of you don't want to admit it, EJ is almost the same as a passer as Tyrod. The turnovers is the major difference but EJ actually will attend passes over the middle. I hope Tyrod shows franchise type skills before the end of the year. But I wonder what their careers would be like if EJ got to sit behind Flacco and Tyrod had to play right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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