HuSeYiN_NYC Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Can't go down this sharing the blame road with you. This is on Dareus and Dareus alone. I know you have negative feelings against Rex, but laying this one him even in part is just unfair. Not buying it. Nobody is saying Rex is 100% to be blamed for another man's actions but for you to even think he doesn't have a percentage of the blame is beyond my train of thought. It's simple logic. Yet it's the hardest to explain. Smh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 My final word here as I find myself getting hot under the collar... I'm all for personal accountability, I really am. I also know that people will get away with what they're allowed to in a workplace environment & some will push beyond what's allowed. The looser the ship the more likely you'll run into problems like this. If this was an isolated incident I would chalk it up to personal stupidity, but, it's far from that & a portion of the blame must be placed squarely on the shoulders of Rex and Whaley. I'm very happy that we won the offseason... Then how do you explain it happening on very well ran organizations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Nobody is saying Rex is 100% to be blamed for another man's actions but for you to even think he doesn't have a percentage of the blame is beyond my train of thought. It's simple logic. Yet it's the hardest to explain. Smh. I believe your logic train goes right to Pegula at the top, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Idiot NFL players abound. Hopefully Marcel provides his cell phone else he might face further sanctions from the almighty and powerful commish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I wonder if we get those 4 game checks added back to our Salary Cap numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Almost everyone close to him has died (grandma, mom, dad, mentor, brother). Again, he is like the only player I actually feel bad for. He's not a bad guy at all. With you there. He owns this; terrible decision-making. Agreed. sounds ominous Is there another kind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Nobody is saying Rex is 100% to be blamed for another man's actions but for you to even think he doesn't have a percentage of the blame is beyond my train of thought. It's simple logic. Yet it's the hardest to explain. Smh. Two questions: 1) What should Rex have done to avoid this issue? 2) Who was at fault when Dareus was suspended last season for what he did in 2014 when Rex was still NYJ coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 My final word here as I find myself getting hot under the collar... I'm all for personal accountability, I really am. I also know that people will get away with what they're allowed to in a workplace environment & some will push beyond what's allowed. The looser the ship the more likely you'll run into problems like this. If this was an isolated incident I would chalk it up to personal stupidity, but, it's far from that & a portion of the blame must be placed squarely on the shoulders of Rex and Whaley. I'm very happy that we won the offseason... ill echo general sentiment here too.... we have used a model of putting high risk guys on the roster, and handed that roster to a low accountability coach. its not surprising that we are experiencing a lot of trouble here. rex and DW didnt get MD high, but with better support systems and a tighter overall approach organizationally, i do not think that our list of suspensions would be the same length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 The guy who performed the act is certainly above 50% to blame? Mario Williams a mentor? Now that's funny. On what? How to lay down and quit when you know you're getting released at the end of the season? How many times has Mario been suspended by the league? All I know is this went from a top 5 defense to a clown show after Rex showed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Whose writing the checks, Rex? I have no idea If you work for a big company and you have a superior, is he not blamed from HIS superior for YOUR actions? Your superior may not cut the checks, but he is blamed for not managing you well by HIS superior. You might get suspended/fired, but guess what? Your superior might also get suspended/fired. Get it? Edited August 16, 2016 by HuSeYiN_NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Two questions: 1) What should Rex have done to avoid this issue? 2) Who was at fault when Dareus was suspended last season for what he did in 2014 when Rex was still NYJ coach? i think you have to back away from the straight line causation of rex hired causing MDs suspension, and think that MD is a piece of a bigger issue potentially here. Do you think that Rex is a coach that will be able to create a team atmosphere that lends itself to high levels of accountability? does his lack of that skill (if you agree its a weakness on his resume) makes incidents more likely to happen, even if he is not the direct cause? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 If you work for a big company and you have a superior, is he not blamed from HIS superior for YOUR actions? Your superior may not cut the checks, but he is blamed for not managing you well by HIS superior. You might get suspended/fired, but guess what? Your superior might also get suspended/fired. Get it? Yes, I get it. The Dline coach is in trouble i think you have to back away from the straight line causation of rex hired causing MDs suspension, and think that MD is a piece of a bigger issue potentially here. Do you think that Rex is a coach that will be able to create a team atmosphere that lends itself to high levels of accountability? does his lack of that skill (if you agree its a weakness on his resume) makes incidents more likely to happen, even if he is not the direct cause? What do you think of Seattle's players and coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 i think you have to back away from the straight line causation of rex hired causing MDs suspension, and think that MD is a piece of a bigger issue potentially here. Do you think that Rex is a coach that will be able to create a team atmosphere that lends itself to high levels of accountability? does his lack of that skill (if you agree its a weakness on his resume) makes incidents more likely to happen, even if he is not the direct cause? Not buying one letter of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 The player should lose his game checks of his entire cap hit not just base salary. Brady beat the system having a base salary of $1M. Maybe that would get players attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 ill echo general sentiment here too.... we have used a model of putting high risk guys on the roster, and handed that roster to a low accountability coach. its not surprising that we are experiencing a lot of trouble here. rex and DW didnt get MD high, but with better support systems and a tighter overall approach organizationally, i do not think that our list of suspensions would be the same length. There's successful (wins) and respected organizations that go through this too. Every single team has high risk guys and they sometimes get in trouble with those teams too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 What do you think of Seattle's players and coaches? i think they have likewise dabbled in high risk, high reward, strategies. they have been able to hold much of it together and maximize the reward. rex at one point in his career did likewise, but for much of the last decade rex has landed on the wrong side of the equation and that concerns me at this crossroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Nobody is saying Rex is 100% to be blamed for another man's actions but for you to even think he doesn't have a percentage of the blame is beyond my train of thought. It's simple logic. Yet it's the hardest to explain. Smh. His % of the blame is very low. He's a coach. He's responsible for building the play book, game planning for specific opponents, and instilling this knowledge in his players so they are prepared to win football games. He's not a high school football coach. His job is not to help people grow as individuals, or learn from their mistakes. These are professionals, and should grow up and act like it. He doesn't even have to like you to do his job. Why is it his fault when you get caught in the preseason being an idiot? Edited August 16, 2016 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 If you work for a big company and you have a superior, is he not blamed from HIS superior for YOUR actions? Your superior may not cut the checks, but he is blamed for not managing you well by HIS superior. You might get suspended/fired, but guess what? Your superior might also get suspended/fired. Get it? You have this mixed up No.....your superior should not be blamed for your poor decisions....however one thing you CAN get blamed for is if the performance of the team goes down because of a particular team member you supervise and it costs the company money.......THAT is the situation I feel like we are in here. Rex wont get fired because Marcel cant stay away from weed.....REX COULD get fired because the team loses because Marcel cant stay on the field because the only real thing is wins and losses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 How many times has Mario been suspended by the league? All I know is this went from a top 5 defense to a clown show after Rex showed up. How many players that he's mentored stayed out of trouble? We went down but it wasn't a clown show. That's just making things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) yep, selfish rich moron fails drug test forfeits tons of money doesn't care because he got paid way more in his signing bonus! Thanks MD! Edited August 16, 2016 by KRT88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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