Kirby Jackson Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 What I think is even more weird is a team sort of moving TO a lame duck situation (kinda, sorta), like the Chargers moving TO a 30,000 seat stadium. THAT is weird. I tried to figure out how many events the Georgia Dome hosted last year, but it turned out to be strangely elusive. I'll just say the place stays pretty busy, and Vegas may find a lot of similar types of events to keep the place pretty active. Vegas makes sense for pro sports. It's such an event town. The NFL makes a ton of sense. The games are played on weekends, the schedule comes out months in advance. There will be boatloads of visiting fans there at all times. The Chargers in a 30,000 seat stadium is beyond weird. I want to go to the game out there next year but I'd imagine tickets will be tough. It's less than 1/2 the size of an NFL stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Vegas makes sense for pro sports. It's such an event town. The NFL makes a ton of sense. The games are played on weekends, the schedule comes out months in advance. There will be boatloads of visiting fans there at all times. The Chargers in a 30,000 seat stadium is beyond weird. I want to go to the game out there next year but I'd imagine tickets will be tough. It's less than 1/2 the size of an NFL stadium. It will hold as many Chargers fans as Qualcomm does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Let's be fair, yes, the Davis family has moved the Raiders a couple of time but their stadium opened in 1966. It has a small capacity and it's a sewer. Literally, it;s below sea level and the locker room have filled with sewage several times. The Raiders have been patient just like San Diego hoping something could be worked out. Nothing has because California is in such bad shape financially. Yes these billionaire owners should build their own stadiums, but they haven't ever been made to because local and state government give in and or someone in another city givens them what they want. If Vegas or San Antonio is will to foot the bill, why should the Davis family pend their money. Yes, the Raiders belong in Oakland, they are part of AFL history but money talks. As far as the Bills go, this is why we all wanted the Pegula's as owners. They aren't moving the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Honest question, how many times have the Raiders moved in like the last 20 years? Seems they are always on the move. Do you count moving into delinquency and being bailed out by Ralph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Vegas makes sense for pro sports. It's such an event town. The NFL makes a ton of sense. The games are played on weekends, the schedule comes out months in advance. There will be boatloads of visiting fans there at all times. The Chargers in a 30,000 seat stadium is beyond weird. I want to go to the game out there next year but I'd imagine tickets will be tough. It's less than 1/2 the size of an NFL stadium. The average daily high temperature for the month of September is 95 degrees F. That should work well. If the atmosphere at games there is limited to the scenario you outline (tourists, something to do on the weekend, handful of visiting fans cheering) it will quickly become the worst in-game experience in the NFL with no real "home crowd." I.E., kind of like a Miami Dolphins game (LOL!) but worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 The average daily high temperature for the month of September is 95 degrees F. That should work well. If the atmosphere at games there is limited to the scenario you outline (tourists, something to do on the weekend, handful of visiting fans cheering) it will quickly become the worst in-game experience in the NFL with no real "home crowd." I.E., kind of like a Miami Dolphins game (LOL!) but worse. It will be more corporate than Miami. The atmosphere will be pretty blah but the casinos will all own 1,000 plus tickets. Tons of clients will be entertained there. I don't see it as any kind of home field advantage but a perfect business development opportunity. There is plenty of money to be made for the Davis' and the league there. It makes a lot of sense from where I'm sitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering bills fan Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 The average daily high temperature for the month of September is 95 degrees F. That should work well. If the atmosphere at games there is limited to the scenario you outline (tourists, something to do on the weekend, handful of visiting fans cheering) it will quickly become the worst in-game experience in the NFL with no real "home crowd." I.E., kind of like a Miami Dolphins game (LOL!) but worse. As a Las Vegas Resident since 2001, I am excited about the idea of the Raiders coming to Las Vegas. Clark County has in excess of 2,000,000 people. many have sports allegiances to other teams. But if the Raiders continue to be a winning organization, they will get local support. This town is starved for professional sports. As a former Western New York resident and life long bills fan, my heart does go out to the fans in Oakland and San Diego. when buffalo lost the Braves, I was crushed. Before the Pegulas purchased the Bills, I often though how I would feel if the Bills were to move to Las Vegas. I would hate that. Even though they would be my "local" tea in that scenario, They belong in Western New York, On a side note, The selection of Sean McDermott has our head coach is AWESOME!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 What I think is even more weird is a team sort of moving TO a lame duck situation (kinda, sorta), like the Chargers moving TO a 30,000 seat stadium. THAT is weird. The Chargers in a 30,000 seat stadium is beyond weird. I want to go to the game out there next year but I'd imagine tickets will be tough. It's less than 1/2 the size of an NFL stadium. How is that going to look on television? I don't see how the NFL is going to like this. I want to go to this game too, but tickets might be impossible. Couldn't the Chargers play in the Rose Bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Do you count moving into delinquency and being bailed out by Ralph? You really need see a doctor for that case of BUTT HURT you have. I mean it is one of the worst I have ever seen. I mean I ask a simple question and your butt hurt completely broke out.. very sad you should seek medical attention immediately! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Chargers filling a 27,000 seat stadium will look better than playing to an empty stadium at Rose Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 The average daily high temperature for the month of September is 95 degrees F. Isn't the proposed stadium going to be of the domed variety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering bills fan Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Isn't the proposed stadium going to be of the domed variety? Yes. A 65,009 seat dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Yes. A 65,009 seat dome.I want a recount! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Yes. A 65,009 seat dome. If it weren't a dome, Sept games would have to be on the road or at night. Florida is unbearable too. I've turned down free tickets in a prime zone in September in Tampa. Worst game experience I've ever had in any sport was in Jacksonville. BRUTAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 The Raiders could save $650M by sharing the new 49er stadium and keep there fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Am I the only one who is a little concerned about these teams like the Raiders and Chargers leaving for the West Coast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Am I the only one who is a little concerned about these teams like the Raiders and Chargers leaving for the West Coast?Concerned about what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 The Raiders could save $650M by sharing the new 49er stadium and keep there fan base. takes 2 to tango- will never happen. Neither teams wants to share, from what I've read. Am I the only one who is a little concerned about these teams like the Raiders and Chargers leaving for the West Coast? Aren't they already on the west coast? Raiders actually moving inland a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) I respectively disagree with "plus all the visitors that flock to Vegas." I don't think people would want to give up a whole day of their Las Vegas trip for an NFL game. Even less so if you can see one at home. Tickets will probably be exorbitant. Like most NFL tickets, you will have buy them months in advance. Much easier to get tickets to a show. Based on your quote, why would all these "visitors" even root for the Raiders when they probably already have a fav team? I don't think Las Vegas and the NFL go together. They wouldn't really even have a true "home" crowd. I also disagree with your prediction that attendance will be low in LA. Outrageous, my friend! It'll be a hot ticket. I bet every home game will be sold out. And it doesn't matter if it costs $2B. It will get built. I'm familiar with the Hollywood Park area where the stadium will be built and it is at the intersection of two major freeways and is easy to get to. 25+ years of having two teams in LA prove you are wrong, as was evidenced this year where they had issues in their FIRST YEAR back...it's a TERRIBLE market for fan support...honestly embarrassing considering the population Edited January 16, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 25+ years of having two teams in LA prove you are wrong, as was evidenced this year where they had issues in their FIRST YEAR back...it's a TERRIBLE market for fan support...honestly embarrassing considering the population They sold out of season tickets (70,000) six hours after they went on sale last summer....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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