Liberal Protests

[Sig1Hunter]

36 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Kneeling will never be enough for the mob.

 

 

 

Nailed it. Watching a white woman being told to kneel and apologize for her “white privilege”, and then actually complying, is absolutely disgusting. Tucker destroys the narrative of racist police murdering members of the black community. Sad thing is, even though it is truth he is speaking, the ones who need to hear it won’t.

Edited June 4, 2020 by Sig1Hunter

[Deranged Rhino]

 

I made a post somewhere, a few months back, about this very thing. 

4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

He did nothing wrong.but his  wallet was more important to him than his opinion.

 

But the fact he's consistently used his wallet more than most people in his position to help his community should count for a lot, no? 

[plenzmd1]

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I made a post somewhere, a few months back, about this very thing. 

 

But the fact he's consistently used his wallet more than most people in his position to help his community should count for a lot, no? 

does not matter..and i am not saying this derisively of Brees..but this came down to a business decision. I would prolly have made the same decision.

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, plenzmd1 said:

does not matter..and i am not saying this derisively of Brees..but this came down to a business decision. I would prolly have made the same decision.

 

But shouldn't it matter? He's spent millions of his own money trying to make the lives of people in NO better. 

 

If you (general you, not YOU) attack your allies, especially over matters of opinion -- then soon you'll have no allies left. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

That article is all over the place and some of the quotes were basically "we deserved it!" People are very, very stupid.
 

</snip>
 

Organizers said this geography was deliberate.
 

“We want to go to places of white affluence so that the pain and outrage that we feel can be put right in their faces,” said Melina Abdullah, one of the leaders of Black Lives Matter.
 

</snip>
 

[plenzmd1]

6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

But shouldn't it matter? He's spent millions of his own money trying to make the lives of people in NO better. 

 

If you (general you, not YOU) attack your allies, especially over matters of opinion -- then soon you'll have no allies left. 

It should matter, but it does not. It should be people can think for themselves and form opinions and not blindly follow either party, or wherever they get their news. 

 

Got in a twitter beef today defending the right of Cotton and the Times to run his op-ed, got blasted as wanting to call the kill people and advocating fro violence. 99% of folks today cannot take to heart" might not like what ya say, but will defend to the death your right to say it" 

 

Seems to have quited down once i posted the ACLU officail position on free speech and first amendment rights.. and how the civil rights movement was crushed when speech was suppresed in the 60's...

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Correct. 

 

Again, when you lead with something ridiculous and dangerous as your number one goal -- you diminish the weight of the entire movement. 

 

[Westside]

17 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

does not matter..and i am not saying this derisively of Brees..but this came down to a business decision. I would prolly have made the same decision.

Then you're weak. 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Correct. 

 

Again, when you lead with something ridiculous and dangerous as your number one goal -- you diminish the weight of the entire movement. 

 

 

Wow  Democrats are crazy. We need the police to help us all out.

[B-Man]

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Correct. 

 

Again, when you lead with something ridiculous and dangerous as your number one goal -- you diminish the weight of the entire movement. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

How dare they clean up monuments. 

[plenzmd1]

1 minute ago, westside2 said:

Then you're weak. 

okey dokey

[Westside]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

 

Wow  Democrats are crazy. We need the police to help us all out.

They're too busy kneeling to their new masters.

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

And yet the left doesn’t support Trump sending in the military. Can the need be more obvious ? 

Neither does the secretary of defense.  With good reason. 

6 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

 

Wow  Democrats are crazy. We need the police to help us all out.

Meanwhile the Trumpers who want to send in the marines are perfectly rational. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Barr speaking now: 

https://www.justice.gov/live

[Magox]

I can't think of a time to where I feel this level of antipathy towards the left as I do right now.  They are both intellectually and morally bankrupt.

 

There is a complete white washing of everything that is happening and a complicit media to help them achieve this.  All the way from the health experts, to institutionalists, to the media, the politicians and the youth.   

 

You truly cannot have an opinion and state facts that counter the mob's view.   If you do, you'll be derided, ostracized and ratioed. 

 

It's not even enough to be oppose some of these views, your silence is now considered complicit. I have a pretty well-rounded group of contacts via social media and what I'm seeing now is jarring. 

 

It's outright Orwellian. I've been saying it over the past few days, and it's not an exaggeration.

 

This is a societal condition that is destructive to the identity of a free and open society.  When you silence free speech via mob rule tactics, that is a scary thing.  

[Motorin']

45 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

It's very hard to take a list of goals and agendas seriously when the number one item is to defund the police. That would solve nothing, in fact, it would make all the problems they claim to be up in arms about much, much, much worse. 

 

Which begs the question -- what's the actual agenda? Social reform or revolution? Those are not synonymous, despite the catchy chants.  

 

 

 

There are two main asks. Federal Legislation that sets a minimum standard for the use of lethal force and lifting removing qualified immunity, and an the establishment of an outside review board to investigate police criminality in order to remove the inherent conflict of interest within the DA's office. 

 

Of course defunding the police will never happen. It's like asking for a million when WGA minimum would be a win. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, Motorin' said:

 

There are two main asks. Federal Legislation that sets a minimum standard for the use of lethal force and lifting removing qualified immunity, and an the establishment of an outside review board to investigate police criminality in order to remove the inherent conflict of interest within the DA's office. 

 

Of course defunding the police will never happen. It's like asking for a million when WGA minimum would be a win. 

 

I don't disagree -- but the fact is that "defunding the police" is the rallying call (from what I've seen on the streets of the protests in my own city, LA). Which just makes it impossible to take the rest seriously, no matter how well intentioned it is. 

[Magox]

I'm old enough to remember when they staged a counter protest to the protesters who wanted to get back to work.   Like I said, bankrupt.

 

 

[Motorin']

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I don't disagree -- but the fact is that "defunding the police" is the rallying call (from what I've seen on the streets of the protests in my own city, LA). Which just makes it impossible to take the rest seriously, no matter how well intentioned it is. 

 

The people working for these legal reforms are not the same individuals asking for to defund the police. 

Also many cities around the country are taking down Confederate statues. 

Edited June 4, 2020 by Motorin'

[BuffaloHokie13]

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I don't disagree -- but the fact is that "defunding the police" is the rallying call (from what I've seen on the streets of the protests in my own city, LA). Which just makes it impossible to take the rest seriously, no matter how well intentioned it is. 

Kind of like how they're claiming that they know it isn't all cops while spraying ACAB....

[Motorin']

2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Kind of like how they're claiming that they know it isn't all cops while spraying ACAB....

 

It's just a few bad apples. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

Just now, Motorin' said:

 

It's just a few bad apples. 

So you disagree with everyone who sprays ACAB?

[Magox]

5 minute video on what is Orwellian

 

 

Tell me if this is not what is happening in today's society more so than at any point in your lifetime. 

 

 

Edited June 4, 2020 by Magox

[SectionC3]

21 minutes ago, Magox said:

I can't think of a time to where I feel this level of antipathy towards the left as I do right now.  They are both intellectually and morally bankrupt.

 

There is a complete white washing of everything that is happening and a complicit media to help them achieve this.  All the way from the health experts, to institutionalists, to the media, the politicians and the youth.   

 

You truly cannot have an opinion and state facts that counter the mob's view.   If you do, you'll be derided, ostracized and ratioed. 

 

It's not even enough to be oppose some of these views, your silence is now considered complicit. I have a pretty well-rounded group of contacts via social media and what I'm seeing now is jarring. 

 

It's outright Orwellian. I've been saying it over the past few days, and it's not an exaggeration.

 

This is a societal condition that is destructive to the identity of a free and open society.  When you silence free speech via mob rule tactics, that is a scary thing.  

 

It’s also scary when you gas peaceful protestors to get a photo op and threaten to needlessly turn the military upon the civilian population.  

[Boatdrinks]

33 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

Lol.... better sunset ALL gun control laws ASAP. Have to give the good citizens of the nation a fighting chance vs the criminals. 

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

So you disagree with everyone who sprays ACAB?

 

I don't agree with any of the destructiveness that has been happening. I think the whole phrase is, "a few bad apples spoil the bunch." 

 

I think all cops have a tough job, and most of them want to protect and serve. But I think the laws and culture of policing are setup to protect, intentionally or not, to protect the bad cops. And I've seen enough retaliation and punishment against the preverbal good cop for speaking out against the actions of the bad cop to believe that the system needs to be reformed. 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

35 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

 

Wow  Democrats are crazy. We need the police to help us all out.

This has perhaps never been more apparent than now. 

[Deranged Rhino]

10 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

The people working for these legal reforms are not the same individuals asking for to defund the police. 

 

I don't disagree -- but the point is the loudest voices, the biggest names, are pushing that first and foremost. 

 

You should ask yourself why they're doing that when it harms their overall goals. Why would they push something so hard that overshadows the actual, reasonable goals of the movement? Could it be that their goals are not reform but revolution? 

 

And if that's the case, why let those people infiltrate the movement and speak for it? Is it just because they're famous? 

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I don't disagree -- but the point is the loudest voices, the biggest names, are pushing that first and foremost. 

 

You should ask yourself why they're doing that when it harms their overall goals. Why would they push something so hard that overshadows the actual, reasonable goals of the movement? Could it be that their goals are not reform but revolution? 

 

And if that's the case, why let those people infiltrate the movement and speak for it? Is it just because they're famous? 

Right on ! The famous and wealthy are not more important or more deserving of protection than the rest of us. They can create their own villages with private security to hold the criminals at bay. Ordinary citizens need the Police. 

5 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

I don't agree with any of the destructiveness that has been happening. I think the whole phrase is, "a few bad apples spoil the bunch." 

 

I think all cops have a tough job, and most of them want to protect and serve. But I think the laws and culture of policing are setup to protect, intentionally or not, to protect the bad cops. And I've seen enough retaliation and punishment against the preverbal good cop for speaking out against the actions of the bad cop to believe that the system needs to be reformed. 

 

 

Well, there is no formal “ system” set up with the goal of protecting bad cops. The Minny four went against any procedure manual in the country. This stuff can happen regardless of training etc. There are bad people everywhere in society, and law enforcement is not immune. 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Tiberius]

Jennifer Rubin: Trump will not vanish on his own. The protesters must vow to vote him out — and then show up in November. Nevertheless, something is new. Americans previously willing to shuffle along behind a deranged executive or to avert their eyes have recovered their confidence and pride as citizens of a great republic. They have rediscovered we have the resources, the laws and the institutions we need to throw off the yoke of oppression — just as we did 240 years ago.

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Jennifer Rubin: Trump will not vanish on his own. The protesters must vow to vote him out — and then show up in November. Nevertheless, something is new. Americans previously willing to shuffle along behind a deranged executive or to avert their eyes have recovered their confidence and pride as citizens of a great republic. They have rediscovered we have the resources, the laws and the institutions we need to throw off the yoke of oppression — just as we did 240 years ago.

The protesters already voted for the Dems in 2016, and live in liberal havens that vote that way consistently. Won’t make a difference. Sane people who might have considered voting Dem are looking on in horror , hearing talk of defunding police to advance the causes of criminals. They have no choice but to vote Trump! He’s the only one who will protect them from the savage mobs who want to take over America ! 

[Warren Zevon]

8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Sorry Billy, we all saw the videos.

[Magox]

More pandering at the expense of safety.

 

 

[Sundancer]

 

 

[B-Man]

1 minute ago, Sundancer said:

 

 

 

 

 

EXACTLY.

 

He made a terrific Rose Garden speech,

 

Then a symbolic walk over to the just vandalized "Church of the Presidents"

 

 

 

The Left immediately saw that it was very effective...................and threw everything (and continue to) against it.

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

13 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

The protesters already voted for the Dems in 2016, and live in liberal havens that vote that way consistently. Won’t make a difference. Sane people who might have considered voting Dem are looking on in horror , hearing talk of defunding police to advance the causes of criminals. They have no choice but to vote Trump! He’s the only one who will protect them from the savage mobs who want to take over America ! 

The Blue Wave is coming for Trump. 2018 showed the way 

[Deranged Rhino]