Liberal Protests

[Wacka]

9 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

Holy *****. I just learned that the police bombed a black neighborhood in Philadelphia in 1985 in a standoff with a black extremist group. 

https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2015/05/18/407665820/why-did-we-forget-the-move-bombing

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/10/move-1985-bombing-reconciliation-philadelphia#img-2

Where the F were you Sherlock?  (deleted a comment that WOULD PROBABLY GET ME BANNED FOR  while). That was common knowledge.  Also read  history.  done by the Dems who have controlled the mayors office in Philly since 1952. 

Edited June 1, 2020 by Wacka

[SectionC3]

13 minutes ago, Wacka said:

Senile Joe should get out of his basement and let kids feel his leg hair.

 

Hey, even if he's in the basement, he's still four floors above the "leader" who's hiding from snowflakes and reminiscing about the days when he could bang porn stars!

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Wacka]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Hey, even if he's in the basement, he's still four floors above the "leader" who's hiding from snowflakes and reminiscing about the days when he could bang porn stars!

Or grab the knee of  a state trooper.

[SectionC3]

1 minute ago, Wacka said:

Or grab the knee of  a state trooper.

 

If you're referring to Biden, I believe he was at least at ground level when that happened.  Which would put him five stories above where Mr. Tough Guy president was last night when he was cowering from melting snowflakes.  

Question for those in the know.  Can Trump get Big Macs in the bunker?  What about McNuggets?  And, if he can get those things there, do they come in supersize or just regular size?

 

I like people who lead from the front.  Not fat, fake tough guys who cower in bunkers when the snowflakes accumulate. 

Edited June 1, 2020 by SectionC3

[B-Man]

Pallets of bricks 'randomly' appear during protests in NYC, Kansas City, Dallas and North Carolina sparking theories they were planted by cops or extremists to stoke violence

 

                  

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8377069/Bricks-randomly-appear-protests-sparking-theories-planted-stoke-violence.html

 

 

 

 

 

TODAY"S DNC "PHRASE THAT PAYS"

 

Floors above...........

 

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[Wacka]

Bidens got a problem wanting kids to feel his leg hair and grabbing the knee of a male stat trooper .  Face it you lefties finally realize Trump is going to win and  and you are losing your minds.  Biden is worse than Dukakis or Mondale combined..

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

He actually has already, but the media ignores it.

 

 

 

It is GOVERNORS RESPONSIBILITY to keep LAW AND ORDER in their STATE.

IF THE GOVERNOR CANNOT KEEP LAW AND ORDER, THEN ASK HELP FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!

 

 

 

 

 

Right. As well as Antifa memeber disrupts the peace should be arrested right away.  There crimes hopefully lots of them come to the law. Those people will pay with the law when arrested. 

[Wacka]

I'm surprised the pallets of bricks don't say Acme on them.

[SectionC3]

1 minute ago, Wacka said:

Bidens got a problem wanting kids to feel his leg hair and grabbing the knee of a male stat trooper .  Face it you lefties finally realize Trump is going to win and  and you are losing your minds.  Biden is worse than Dukakis or Mondale combined..

 

Let me know when your fearful leader emerges from the bunker.  Maybe he can retweet one of those videos about him doing karate and shooting democratic politicians again.  Like, doing fake tough things.  It's par for the course for that fat wimp. 

[Wacka]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Let me know when your fearful leader emerges from the bunker.  Maybe he can retweet one of those videos about him doing karate and shooting democratic politicians again.  Like, doing fake tough things.  It's par for the course for that fat wimp. 

Bolded -WTF?

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[SectionC3]

4 minutes ago, Wacka said:

Bolded -WTF?

 

Cant' find it now.  This is a story about it.  I have seen it.  It's comically bad. 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/14/violent-video-trump-shooting-media-critics-shown-conference/3972884002/

Edited June 1, 2020 by SectionC3

[billsfan1959]

35 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You called for links, where did you get that one from? 

All types of people do drugs, blacks get arrested way more for it though 

 

https://www.drugpolicy.org/issues/race-and-drug-war

 

Thanks for responding, Tibs. I appreciate it.

 

You asked where I got the statistic that blacks, who make up less than 13% of the population, account for approximately 24% of police killings. There are few databases that track this. The Washington Post has been keeping track of police shootings since 2015 https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/ and it pretty much tracks the same as other sites that have tried to break this information down.

 

I 100% agree on the drug arrest issue. There are reasons that actually stem from good intentions for the disparity of arrests, convictions, and incarcerations of blacks for crack cocaine. I personally believe those "good intentions" have had a disastrous consequences for young black men. I would be happy to discuss that in a separate discussion.

 

For this discussion, the statistic I provided is really the basis for the "blacks are killed at a disproportionate rate" by police officers and that "blacks have a greater chance of being killed by police than other races." It is not a breakdown of the actual cases to determine the circumstances and motivations. It is simply the statistic.

 

However, it is a little misleading. If you look at the Uniform Crime Reports for any given year (Here is a link to 2018, as I don't believe 2019 is available yet: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018 ), you will find that when it comes to violent crime, blacks account for approximately:

 

53% of all murder arrests
29% of all rape arrests
54% of all robbery arrests
34% of all aggravated assult arrests
32% of all other assault arrests
54% of all weapons arrests

92-95% of all killings of blacks

 

As you can see, they are disproportionately represented in all these crimes. Now this is not meant to infer from these stats that there must be something inherently wrong with the black race. That is as ridiculous as arguing that there is something inherently wrong with all of law enforcement because of the stat I quoted to begin with.

 

The point of this is that it is a statistical fact that the vast majority of violent crime in most cities is in the lower socio-economic areas that also happen to have significant black populations. There are a lot of reasons for this and that is one area we should be having a national discussion on.

 

When any police department allocates its resources, they allocate them according to need, with the areas having the most violent crime receiving the most resources. So, in effect, a disproportionate amount of law enforcement resources are dedicated to black communities. This leads to a disproportionate amount of interactions between police and black men, particularly within the context of a higher potential for emotionally charged situations and escalation of violence.

 

There is so much more, but I will stop here. I wish this country could engage in real honest dialogue about this. There is enough culpability to go around. However, solutions to the problems cannot begin until there are honest and accurate definitions of those problems

 

Edited June 1, 2020 by billsfan1959

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[IDBillzFan]

29 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

They just keep showing up, like magic. 

 

(Not because this is organized and well funded by enemies both foreign and domestic). 

 

How tough can it be to track that delivery?

[Sundancer]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

For God's sake............arrest her !!!

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

11 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

For God's sake............arrest her !!!

 

 

 

Right B-Man. 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

George's brother giving a really powerful speech at the moment. I'm sure clips will follow.

[SectionC3]

6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

George's brother giving a really powerful speech at the moment. I'm sure clips will follow.

 

It's gotta be tough to see anything while he's cowering in the bunker.  Kudos to Trump for keeping his eyes peeled!

[Reality Check]

5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

It's gotta be tough to see anything while he's cowering in the bunker.  Kudos to Trump for keeping his eyes peeled!

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/its-setup-mysteriously-staged-bricks-appear-throughout-major-protest-cities

Thanks to digital technology, everything is scene...even your support of Communists.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/minnesota-city-council-member-declares-support-antifa

The members of the Insurrection are coming out of the woodwork. I love it.

[B-Man]

George Floyd’s brother condemns violent protests: ‘My brother was about peace.’

 

 

 

 

Rioters So Angry About George Floyd … They Wrote ‘Free Palestine’ on a Synagogue.

 

 

 

 

AND: George Floyd Would Have Condemned the Riots. Here’s How We Know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cowering in bunker  --            ?

[Keukasmallies]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

I disagree.

Whether or not people want to admit it, Trump has worked hard to bring the rule of law back to this country. Simply skipping the steps and absolving the Mayors and Governors of their duty, is not the way to proceed. Will it come to that? Maybe. There are 23 states (and DC) that now have the National Guard called up. If more need to do so, they should. The feds are last in line.

Does it suck for the cities and states with the do-nothing politicians? Hell yeah.



 

 

Calling in the Army and crushing the riots doesn't have to mean snipers on the rooftops, shoot on sight.  A graduated response could start with simply the presence of a significant number of troops and military vehicles in a show-the-flag formation, gauge the rioters response to that, act accordingly, rinse and repeat.

[dubs]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

He should release the whole call. Let them soak in it. 

 

I am so exhausted dealing with dishonest portrayals of Trump, started by the media and then parroted by the NPCs (many of which are my friends).  It forces you into a binary, pro-Trump or anti-Trump.

 

I got into a lengthy discussion with people who I consider to be very far left but can be fair in discussing at at times over the years.  I was dismayed and had to exit the discussion.  Everything in their mind boils down to Trump.  No regard for riots v. protesters, no discussion about these situations versus similar civil unrest in years past, no discussion about the many factors causing us to be where we are today, the decades and generations of failure.  Everything comes down to Trump = evil.  I am so tired of it, I feel like one of the only sane people left in an insane world.

[Dante]

4 minutes ago, Reality Check said:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/its-setup-mysteriously-staged-bricks-appear-throughout-major-protest-cities

Thanks to digital technology, everything is scene...even your support of Communists.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/minnesota-city-council-member-declares-support-antifa

The members of the Insurrection are coming out of the woodwork. I love it.

Some weird stuff going on now. 

Cops destroying their own cars. Creating evidence. Mysteriously I can't find the link for this now

The original video of Floyd. When the ambulance arrives there are no EMT's. It's a cop that comes out and throws him on the gurney. Also, there is no attempt to resuscitate. Also, the cop and Floyd worked security at the same bar with overlapping shifts so they most certainly had to know each other on some level. 

Another strange this is that the cop Chauvin neighbors had no idea he was a cop. They thought he was in real estate. 

 

[Magox]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Trump To Governors: Either “Dominate” Or Get Out Of The Way

Lots and lots of tongue-clucking in the media over this conference-call lecture today, but not a whole lot of recognition that Donald Trump is correct, at least in terms of riot response. In a video conference today, Trump scolded governors around the country for not acting assertively to stop rioting before it spread, with disastrous results across the country. If they didn’t act with strength soon, Trump threatened, he’d be forced to act instead:

 

“You have to dominate or you’ll look like a bunch of jerks, you have to arrest and try people,” the President told governors in a call from the basement White House Situation Room.

In the conversation, which also included law enforcement and national security officials, Trump also emphasized it was his belief the violence is being brought on by forces from the “radical left”.

“It’s a movement, if you don’t put it down it will get worse and worse,” Trump said. “The only time its successful is when you’re weak and most of you are weak.”

Trump said the “whole world was laughing at Minneapolis over the police station getting burned,” referring to the city where protests began last week after the death of an unarmed black man who was being taken into police custody.

Reportedly, Trump warned that he would “activate” Attorney General William Barr and even the Joint Chiefs to deal with the situation. Earlier, Sen. Tom Cotton urged Trump to use the Insurrection Act of 1807 to take control of the situation in the worst spots, a move last made in 1992 during the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles. The US Army would make short shrift of Antifa, Cotton argued

 

More at the link:        

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/06/01/trump-governors-either-dominate-get-way/  

[Reality Check]

1 minute ago, Dante said:

Some weird stuff going on now. 

Cops destroying their own cars. Creating evidence. Mysteriously I can't find the link for this now

The original video of Floyd. When the ambulance arrives there are no EMT's. It's a cop that comes out and throws him on the gurney. Also, there is no attempt to resuscitate. Also, the cop and Floyd worked security at the same bar with overlapping shifts so they most certainly had to know each other on some level. 

Another strange this is that the cop Chauvin neighbors had no idea he was a cop. They thought he was in real estate. 

 

The last 9 months appear to be scheduled. The EMTs not trying to resuscitate him was bizarre, and yet they are not culpable at the very least in the court of public opinion? Weird is right on the money. What is really going on? I have no idea. The political response to the agitation is clear however.

[BillStime]

Says the man who hid in his basement over a hundred protestors.

 

And earlier this year -Trump had a different message for Iran:

 

[Deranged Rhino]

9 minutes ago, dubs said:

 

I am so exhausted dealing with dishonest portrayals of Trump, started by the media and then parroted by the NPCs (many of which are my friends).  It forces you into a binary, pro-Trump or anti-Trump.

 

I got into a lengthy discussion with people who I consider to be very far left but can be fair in discussing at at times over the years.  I was dismayed and had to exit the discussion.  Everything in their mind boils down to Trump.  No regard for riots v. protesters, no discussion about these situations versus similar civil unrest in years past, no discussion about the many factors causing us to be where we are today, the decades and generations of failure.  Everything comes down to Trump = evil.  I am so tired of it, I feel like one of the only sane people left in an insane world.

 

 

 

It's called conditioning. Extensive time, effort, and technology has gone into fabricating a lie and spreading it to NPCs around the country. They're victims of their own inability to think for themselves. Times ahead will be tough for them. 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

Attorney General Bill Barr has directed the Bureau of Prisons to send riot teams to Washington, D.C. and Miami to respond to the violent protests and riots that have broken out in the cities and across the country in response to the death of George Floyd, Fox News has learned.

 

A senior Justice Department official told Fox News Monday that Barr has directed the BOP to send Special Operation Response Teams to the two cities. The riot team was present in Miami during protests over the weekend.

 

The official told Fox News that all FBI field offices have set up command posts.

 

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

 

 

 

 

Nationwide George Floyd riots are the price of liberalism: 

 

The tragedy of the riots sparked by George Floyd’s death was brought home by a distraught elderly black woman interviewed by the local ABC affiliate in her ruined south Minneapolis neighborhood.

“These people did this for no reason,” wept Stephanie Wilford, who lives in an apartment next to where shops were looted and burned Friday night. “They went straight to . . . every store over here that I go to. I have nowhere to go now and I have no way to get there because the buses aren’t running.”

The violence “is not going to bring George back. George is in a better place than we are. I’m going to be honest, I wish I was where George was.”

But liberal agitators don’t care about Stephanie and the poor urban communities that have been destroyed in the four-day ***** of self-congratulatory violence they sanctioned.

They are too busy dreaming up fantasy scapegoats.

Videos abound on social media of shadowy figures, dressed in black, systematically smashing store windows, but not looting, cutting through fences outside police stations, but not pushing the fences over — softening defenses for the rioters.

These are the domestic terrorists who have hijacked peaceful protests across the country. Attorney General Bill Barr described them in his Saturday press conference as “outside radicals and agitators [who] are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate and violent agenda.

“In many places, it appears the violence is planned, organized, and driven by anarchistic and far-left extremists, using Antifa-like tactics.”

This is why Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison pretends that the external agitators in Minneapolis’ riots were Trump-voting “white supremacists,” because the former DNC deputy chairman is one of those in his party who has normalized Antifa as a useful part of the political process.

 

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Sundancer]

 

 

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, Magox said:

 

 

 

 

[dubs]

8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

 

It's called conditioning. Extensive time, effort, and technology has gone into fabricating a lie and spreading it to NPCs around the country. They're victims of their own inability to think for themselves. Times ahead will be tough for them. 

 

What's so troubling is lack of ability to see it themselves.  

 

It's like I was saying in my earlier post.  If you want to have a discussion or have a position that Trump should be doing more or should be laying off Twitter, fine, while I would disagree, I think it's a somewhat reasonable discussion.  But what I have been trying to explain to them is that in a pie chart of attribution, if everything they are saying about him during this situation is true, then that probably accounts for about 5% of the problem.  But they see it as 100% of the problem.  Everything goes back to that.  It's the craziest thing I've ever seen.  Otherwise intelligent, successful people are totally conditioned to believe that if it was not for Donald Trump, there would be no problems in this country.  I honestly feel like I am living in an alternative universe, where all reason and thought have gone out the window.

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, dubs said:

 

What's so troubling is lack of ability to see it themselves.  

 

It's like I was saying in my earlier post.  If you want to have a discussion or have a position that Trump should be doing more or should be laying off Twitter, fine, while I would disagree, I think it's a somewhat reasonable discussion.  But what I have been trying to explain to them is that in a pie chart of attribution, if everything they are saying about him during this situation is true, then that probably accounts for about 5% of the problem.  But they see it as 100% of the problem.  Everything goes back to that.  It's the craziest thing I've ever seen.  Otherwise intelligent, successful people are totally conditioned to believe that if it was not for Donald Trump, there would be no problems in this country.  I honestly feel like I am living in an alternative universe, where all reason and thought have gone out the window.

 

 

Oh these problems have always existed - Trump’s just done a tremendous job dividing and acerbating the fringe.   

 

 

[Westside]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Truth hurts, big boy.  

 

Also, I like presidents who lead from the front.  Not fake tough guy, morbidly obese presidents who cower in bunkers when the snowflakes get restless.  

Stfu