Kirby Jackson Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 A bridge deal is possible. A deal structured like Kaepernick is something that I'd like to see. For those of you that aren't familiar http://www.businessinsider.com/colin-kaepernick-contract-2014-12. At any rate this could be good and it could be bad. The Bills certainly get Taylor cheaper now than they would a year from now if he performs the same. It is definitely riskier to do it now but it isn't necessarily bad. It's only bad if he regresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 No reason to fear this at all. This is a good sign. Whaley and co should be turning over every stone with all of their players based on their current evaluations and internal assessments. Taylor has huge upside so it makes sense to stake a larger claim into him. Obviously you wouldn't want to see them just turn the keys over to him with a Fitzpatrick-like deal, but you also can't be in the situation where he plays lights-out this year and then all of the sudden becomes a unrestricted FA. It's called due-diligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 It certainly makes sense to have discussions. If he and his agent are willing to accept a reasonable deal, great. If not, let things play out. I don't expect the Bills to be running to the table with a $100m deal right now.Good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 exactly if you can sign him "reasonable" then do it..if he plays well again and I think most people think he will be better then he's a free agent and has all the cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 It's obvious to just wait. Make sure he is a franchise QB, then give him a fair deal. What's the point, and everyone who says pay him, well with what money. Do you want to cut 10 starters and we go 2-14 next year to get that done? Maybe that is an exaggeration, but why. We paid for Fitz too early. Be smart. Make sure he develops to a stud, and then he will get a very nice contract, and we should be in a more healthy state to do the deal. BTW- Restructuring a bunch of contracts only kicks your salary issues down the road and perpetuates a problem to not sign other solid starters. Don't be impulsive and overspend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 A 1st year starter? I think you're guessing incorrectly Yep. If that's the case, those same "NFL circles" should love us for over-paying everyone else based upon our cap situation. So, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 If they cut Mario, restructure Clay and sign Glenn long-term, they can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 It certainly makes sense to have discussions. If he and his agent are willing to accept a reasonable deal, great. If not, let things play out. I don't expect the Bills to be running to the table with a $100m deal right now. Agreed. I'm thinking they're just feeling out what he and his agent are thinking at this point, and whether a deal that protects the team (in case he stinks or is injured) is even possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane nelson Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Extend his contract for an additional year maybe two with a decent bump. If after two more years he plays at the same or better then pay him market value. We have struggled so much at this position, the toughest position in all of sports. We cant afford to loss TT If he does play at a high level next year he will demand and get a lot more in Bu$$alo or somewhere else Tyrod and EJ are both free agents after the season. It makes sense to be proactive now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) From what I have seen of Tyrod, I think he deserves an incentive laden deal. If you disagree, just think about who we have had at the position the last 15 years.i don't disagree. Big TT fan. Edited February 26, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 How does a team that pays it's QB's peanuts, and hasn't made the playoffs in 17 years, end up with the "worst cap situation in the league"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Most likely a reasonable deal that protects them. It certainly makes sense to have discussions. If he and his agent are willing to accept a reasonable deal, great. If not, let things play out. I don't expect the Bills to be running to the table with a $100m deal right now. Agree completely. There's no harm in having a conversation, especially if there's a way to structure a deal that gives Taylor some security and protects the Bills down the line. If not, like maddog says, let it play out. What's the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 that was my thought tooJust because the Seahawks got away with underpaying Russell Wilson doesn't make that the way you treat a starting QB. Tyrod earned a bump for his play last year. A bridge deal with a small raise and a commitment to redo it if he outplays his contract. Never hurts to show some love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Most likely a reasonable deal that protects them.Maybe they are visiting it because they are struggling coming to terms with Gilmore long term? And, they will need to use the TAG on Gilmore? And, cant use it on Gilmore and TT next offseadon. Pure speculation, but, it seems a variable in the thought process has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 How does a team that pays it's QB's peanuts, and hasn't made the playoffs in 17 years, end up with the "worst cap situation in the league"? Great question and the majority of the Bills fans are completely happy with the current front office is what bothers me. So many highly paid free agents because they fail to find that top talent in the draft. While I like TT and would think that an extended contract to keep him as a Bill while he develops is a good thing. Paying the kid anywhere near starting money is the wrong thing to do and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see that happening. Taylor was very effective in 2015 in Roman's complex run centric offense. However, fans need to remember there were many games that Taylor struggled greatly in when he was forced to carry the game. Opposing teams in the AFC will be more prepared this season to face a running QB. Things may not improve much if the team doesn't fix the defense or the problems at RT-RG. Then they may go right into the toilet if either Incognito, Glenn or both aren't retained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Great question and the majority of the Bills fans are completely happy with the current front office is what bothers me. So many highly paid free agents because they fail to find that top talent in the draft. While I like TT and would think that an extended contract to keep him as a Bill while he develops is a good thing. Paying the kid anywhere near starting money is the wrong thing to do and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see that happening. Taylor was very effective in 2015 in Roman's complex run centric offense. However, fans need to remember there were many games that Taylor struggled greatly in when he was forced to carry the game. Opposing teams in the AFC will be more prepared this season to face a running QB. Things may not improve much if the team doesn't fix the defense or the problems at RT-RG. Then they may go right into the toilet if either Incognito, Glenn or both aren't retained. I pretty much feel the same way about Taylor, but I like Whaley (he didn't give Mario Williams or Fitz all that money), though I think his eye for talent might be better than his Salary Cap skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I pretty much feel the same way about Taylor, but I like Whaley (he didn't give Mario Williams or Fitz all that money), though I think his eye for talent might be better than his Salary Cap skills. Isn't Jim Overdorf is in charge of the salary cap? He's the contract guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Isn't Jim Overdorf is in charge of the salary cap? He's the contract guy. Yes, but you know details are tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) Isn't Jim Overdorf is in charge of the salary cap? He's the contract guy. Maybe, but regardless Whaley certainly has a big influence on who gets signed, who is released, who is kept, and determining their worth, no? Is that crazy talk? Perhaps my terminology was misappropriate ("Salary Cap skills")...my apologies. Nice to see you again, Greggy! Edited February 26, 2016 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 How does a team that pays it's QB's peanuts, and hasn't made the playoffs in 17 years, end up with the "worst cap situation in the league"? They go all-in on personnel 2 consecutive years, with coaches who hold them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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