Beerball Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Post 'em here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Well, somebody was busy during the 2nd half of the JESTS game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 S=P4. Recent performances of our backfield are reducing this need weekly. Rambo was Player of the Game vs Jets, but Duke Williams and “CB-S” players Corey Graham and McKelvin minimize the need. Bills have been to see: S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE 206 (RD6-7) S-WRF MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA 240 (RD7-UDFA) CB=P6. Bills and Seahawks currently have the best CB situations in the NFL, but Whaley says he'll draft one every year. I think he takes a year off, given that he has only 6 picks this year. He has good backups now in McKelvin and 6'1" Free Agent Mario Butler. Brooks is a FA, so he's on the bubble. Robey is small, but above average. I know the Bills scouts have been to Mackensie Alexander's practices (Clemson, ya know), and also Tre'davious White. Both are likely first-rounders, so that's unlikely. Day 5 possibilities whom Bills scouts have seen are: CB KEVON SEYMOUR USC 118 - RD4 CARRINGTON ARIZONA ST 145 - RD5 CB WILLIAM LIKELY MARYLAND unranked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Let the record state that I want the Bills to draft Su'a Cravens and/or Jeremy Cash. They are the new NFL hybrid S/LB that play close to the line. Both of them are playmakers behind the line of scrimmage or pass defense. If the Bills D stays healthy and add a NT, Edge, and Cravens/Cash- I think they will be a strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) CB Eli Apple from OSU just declared. Edited January 4, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 CB Eli Apple from OSU just declared. That actually adds another RD1 guy. Which by my count, makes it 38! Let the record state that I want the Bills to draft Su'a Cravens and/or Jeremy Cash. They are the new NFL hybrid S/LB that play close to the line. Both of them are playmakers behind the line of scrimmage or pass defense. If the Bills D stays healthy and add a NT, Edge, and Cravens/Cash- I think they will be a strength Duly noted. Cash is in "My Five", btw. I don't think Cravens is as ideal a fit for Rex's 3-4, and Jeremy Cash may still be there at RD2#51. If they don't take a "CB-S" in the first 2 days, I like Wayne Lyons who plays that "CB-S" role for Michigan. I don't think he makes it to RD6. 6-1 height, length, tenacity, Xfer from Stanford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Let's go with BPA seven times and sort out the details in training camp. Taking inferior players because of where you think they fit early in an off season dooms you to get less value out of them over five seasons and build up a talent deficit. Injuries and turnover and time it can take for rookies to excel mean that picking what you think you need most isn't likely to be what you really need anyway. The good news is that BPA is an inexact science, and often there will be multiple very similarly graded players at a pick, so you can go WR over OT, etc. But knowingly passing on a better player so you can get an inferior player at a different position is silly. And I also don't buy the standard grades and think things need to be positionally weighted, so I'm not suggesting that we end up taking seven straight guards because Kiper grades them that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Let's go with BPA seven times and sort out the details in training camp. Taking inferior players because of where you think they fit early in an off season dooms you to get less value out of them over five seasons and build up a talent deficit. Injuries and turnover and time it can take for rookies to excel mean that picking what you think you need most isn't likely to be what you really need anyway. The good news is that BPA is an inexact science, and often there will be multiple very similarly graded players at a pick, so you can go WR over OT, etc. But knowingly passing on a better player so you can get an inferior player at a different position is silly. And I also don't buy the standard grades and think things need to be positionally weighted, so I'm not suggesting that we end up taking seven straight guards because Kiper grades them that way. Try a BPA strategy on FanSpeak's OTC Simulator. It's fun. Rules are you have to take one of the top 3 players each round. You can go deeper if that position is filled by a previous pick you made. http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/ Here's mine, following those rules: 1: R1P19 NT KENNY CLARK--sack a game, studies film a lot, savvy, varied passrush styles UCLA 2: R2P18 DE SHILIQUE CALHOUN--Swiss Army Knife: plays RDE, LDE, 3-4 OLB, 4-3 OLB, some 3-tech, even drops into coverage MICHIGAN STATE 3: R3P17 OT JOHN THEUS--Georgia LT who could play RG RT 4: R4P22 WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON--taller WR who gets head around, has terrific body control, makes bad-throw catches routine MISSISSIPPI STATE 5: R5P17 FS MAX REDFIELD--Might be a need for Bills. If you have Premium OTC simulator, you can trade picks! NOTRE DAME 6: R6P17 OLB/DE YANNICK NGAKOUE--2nd in nation in sacks with 14 MARYLAND 7: R7P21 QB KEVIN HOGAN--Value pick here. Smartest QB who can be inconsistent, streaky, 65-66percent, upside, upset USC STANFORD No OT or OG ever appeared in the top 3 selections. Edited January 4, 2016 by Astrobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Try a BPA strategy on FanSpeak's OTC Simulator. It's fun. Rules are you have to take one of the top 3 players each round. You can go deeper if that position is filled by a previous pick you made. http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/ Using the Draftek board I suppose? Using the same board will add some consistency to the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Using the Draftek board I suppose? Using the same board will add some consistency to the results I used FanSpeak. Don't tell my boss. Edited January 4, 2016 by Astrobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Okay, followed your rules: 19: R1P19 QB JARED GOFF CALIFORNIA 49: R2P18 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU 80: R3P17 DE SHAWN OAKMAN BAYLOR 114: R4P19 OLB DADI LHOMME NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH 144: R5P17 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE 174: R6P17 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Yummy Draft. Now I'm stuck! Here's what's fallen to us: 7 WR LAQUON TREADWELL - OLE MISS 11 DE DEFOREST BUCKNER - OREGON 15 DT KENNY CLARK - UCLA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Try a BPA strategy on FanSpeak's OTC Simulator. It's fun. Rules are you have to take one of the top 3 players each round. You can go deeper if that position is filled by a previous pick you made. http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/ Here's mine, following those rules: 1: R1P19 NT KENNY CLARK--sack a game, studies film a lot, savvy, varied passrush styles UCLA 2: R2P18 DE SHILIQUE CALHOUN--Swiss Army Knife: plays RDE, LDE, 3-4 OLB, 4-3 OLB, some 3-tech, even drops into coverage MICHIGAN STATE 3: R3P17 OT JOHN THEUS--Georgia LT who could play RG RT 4: R4P22 WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON--taller WR who gets head around, has terrific body control, makes bad-throw catches routine MISSISSIPPI STATE 5: R5P17 FS MAX REDFIELD--Might be a need for Bills. If you have Premium OTC simulator, you can trade picks! NOTRE DAME 6: R6P17 OLB/DE YANNICK NGAKOUE--2nd in nation in sacks with 14 MARYLAND 7: R7P21 QB KEVIN HOGAN--Value pick here. Smartest QB who can be inconsistent, streaky, 65-66percent, upside, upset USC STANFORD No OT or OG ever appeared in the top 3 selections. 19: R1P19 OLB JAYLON SMITH NOTRE DAME 49: R2P18 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE 80: R3P17 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE 114: R4P19 WR BRAXTON MILLER OHIO STATE 144: R5P17 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE 174: R6P17 QB CODY KESSLER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Yummy Draft. Now I'm stuck! Here's what's fallen to us: 7 WR LAQUON TREADWELL - OLE MISS 11 DE DEFOREST BUCKNER - OREGON 15 DT KENNY CLARK - UCLA buckner a great fit for Rex scheme, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Let the record state that I want the Bills to draft Su'a Cravens and/or Jeremy Cash. They are the new NFL hybrid S/LB that play close to the line. Both of them are playmakers behind the line of scrimmage or pass defense. Don't know enough about them to evaluate them as prospects, but I wouldn't be mad at the type of player you're describing. This defense is screaming for one (or two). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 buckner a great fit for Rex scheme, right? Ron Quinn, whose opinion I value on Twitter, says he's the optimum fit. Will choose him. 19: R1P19 OLB JAYLON SMITH NOTRE DAME 49: R2P18 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE 80: R3P17 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE 114: R4P19 WR BRAXTON MILLER OHIO STATE 144: R5P17 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE 174: R6P17 QB CODY KESSLER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA Who knows how far Jaylon Smith will fall, but if he's there at 19, you grab him. When healthy, he's a Pro Bowl talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Ron Quinn, whose opinion I value on Twitter, says he's the optimum fit. Will choose him. Who knows how far Jaylon Smith will fall, but if he's there at 19, you grab him. When healthy, he's a Pro Bowl talent. agree on smith. He would likely transform the LB group, so critical to the success of this D. Edited January 4, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Without knowing much about the players that will be available, I say safety is our first pick. Rex needs a stud back there. LB is just as big a need but I think you can get those later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 We have enough DBs to choke a horse. Keep what we have, theyget health and we are set. Focus on defense with LBS and DL almopst all have to be replaced with Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Jayron Kearse, SS Clemson. 6'4", 210 lbs Kearse is a freak athletically. Physical at the line of scrimmage, excellent ball skills, would make an excellent SS/Linebacker hybrid. Question will be where he goes. I've seen any where from 1st to 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Florida State's Ramsey enters NFL Draft as top-rated DB Top-rated defensive back Jalen Ramsey has decided to enter the 2016 NFL Draft, and projects as a versatile playmaker whether he ultimately stars at cornerback or safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 OSU Safety Von Bell just declared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Edited January 6, 2016 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Astrobot Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Jayron Kearse, SS Clemson. 6'4", 210 lbs Kearse is a freak athletically. Physical at the line of scrimmage, excellent ball skills, would make an excellent SS/Linebacker hybrid. Question will be where he goes. I've seen any where from 1st to 3rd round. We have Kearse as the first SS off the board and at #25 on our Big Board. If Aaron Williams can't come back, Kearse is a good pick. There are players in position of need right around #19 that I'd rather have (Buckner at DE, Washington at NT), as I like some safeties later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Bills will take a Safety early, and fringe fans will be outraged. If value is there, Whaley pulls trigger. He won't reach. Here is where I think he'd perceive value, prior to the Combine: RD2=Vonn Bell Ohio St--ath, coverage safety, aggressive, gamechanger RD2=Darian Thompson Boise St--runstuff, sideline-to-sideline, great size RD3=Jalen Mills LSU--tackler, hands, upside, versatile (FS-SS) RD3=Karl Joseph WVU--tough, explo, aggr, reflexes, out for '15, back by Combine RD3=Miles Killebrew, SUtah-- tallest, fastest SS, exp disguising coverages, base 4-3 RD4=Trent Matthews, Colorado St-- ACL, 50 starts, 273 tkl, 10 INT, 23 deflects career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Bills will take a Safety early, and fringe fans will be outraged. If value is there, Whaley pulls trigger. He won't reach. Here is where I think he'd perceive value, prior to the Combine: RD2=Vonn Bell Ohio St--ath, coverage safety, aggressive, gamechanger RD2=Darian Thompson Boise St--runstuff, sideline-to-sideline, great size RD3=Jalen Mills LSU--tackler, hands, upside, versatile (FS-SS) RD3=Karl Joseph WVU--tough, explo, aggr, reflexes, out for '15, back by Combine RD3=Miles Killebrew, SUtah-- tallest, fastest SS, exp disguising coverages, base 4-3 RD4=Trent Matthews, Colorado St-- ACL, 50 starts, 273 tkl, 10 INT, 23 deflects career Karl Joseph would be great value in round 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 @RQUINN619 NFL Draft: Scouting Clemson SS Jayron Kearse, Potential #Bills Target? http://buildingtheherd.com/nfl-draft/2016-nfl-draft-is-clemson-s-jayron-kearse-a-fit-for-buffalo-bills/ (via @BuildingHerd) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 @NFL_CFB CB Mackensie Alexander becomes sixth player off Clemson's defense to declare for #NFLDraft: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000622043/article/mackensie-alexander-intends-to-enter-2016-nfl-draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I wonder if the Ed Reed signing has any influence on who's selected and at which round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 @RQUINN619 NFL Draft: Scouting Clemson SS Jayron Kearse, Potential #Bills Target? http://buildingtheherd.com/nfl-draft/2016-nfl-draft-is-clemson-s-jayron-kearse-a-fit-for-buffalo-bills/ (via @BuildingHerd) I was intrigued by Kearse and watched him closely against Bama. The scouting report is accurate in that he is inconstent and doesn't really stand out. Pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 @NFL_CFB Report: #Alabama safety Eddie Jackson returning for senior season --> http://bit.ly/1RPzHHX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Jayron Kearse, SS Clemson. 6'4", 210 lbs Kearse is a freak athletically. Physical at the line of scrimmage, excellent ball skills, would make an excellent SS/Linebacker hybrid. Question will be where he goes. I've seen any where from 1st to 3rd round. I would love to have him on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Matt Miller of bleacher report has said a couple times that two NFL scouts he's talked to have OSU Safety Tyvis Powell ranked higher than his teammate Von Bell. While this seems curious to me and I can only imagine is due to his size, which is similar to Kam Chancellor, I would not be upset to take him in the 5th or later. He is certainly smarter and IMO an overall better player than Duke Williams and would be a nice depth safety who could use his size. This is a good analysis for anyone interested ... http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2016/1/20/10790854/ohio-state-tyvis-powell-2016-nfl-draft-prospects?utm_campaign=landgrantholyland&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Bills will take a Safety early, and fringe fans will be outraged. If value is there, Whaley pulls trigger. He won't reach. Here is where I think he'd perceive value, prior to the Combine: RD2=Vonn Bell Ohio St--ath, coverage safety, aggressive, gamechanger RD2=Darian Thompson Boise St--runstuff, sideline-to-sideline, great size RD3=Jalen Mills LSU--tackler, hands, upside, versatile (FS-SS) RD3=Karl Joseph WVU--tough, explo, aggr, reflexes, out for '15, back by Combine RD3=Miles Killebrew, SUtah-- tallest, fastest SS, exp disguising coverages, base 4-3 RD4=Trent Matthews, Colorado St-- ACL, 50 starts, 273 tkl, 10 INT, 23 deflects career Vonn Bell!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Vonn Bell!! !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 !!! Haha, I'm not much of a scout, but I got fired up about him after reading a handful of his scouting reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 @SalSports With uncertainty at safety next season, Bills have watchful eye at Senior Bowl: http://www.wgr550.com/Senior-Bowl-With-uncertainty-at-safety-Bills-have-/22416545 North Team 29 K.J. Dillon; 6-1; 203 West Virginia 25 Miles Killebrew; 6-3; 230 Southern 23 Tyvis Powell; 6-3; 210 Ohio State 4 Darian Thompson; 6-2; 212 Boise State South Team 36 DeAndre Houston-Carson; 6-2; 195 William & Mary 21 Sean Davis; 6-1; 202 Maryland 20 Kevin Byard; 5-1; 1217 Middle Tennessee 16 Jeremy Cash; 6-2; 210 Duke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 @SalSports With uncertainty at safety next season, Bills have watchful eye at Senior Bowl: http://www.wgr550.com/Senior-Bowl-With-uncertainty-at-safety-Bills-have-/22416545 North Team 29 K.J. Dillon; 6-1; 203 West Virginia 25 Miles Killebrew; 6-3; 230 Southern 23 Tyvis Powell; 6-3; 210 Ohio State 4 Darian Thompson; 6-2; 212 Boise State South Team 36 DeAndre Houston-Carson; 6-2; 195 William & Mary 21 Sean Davis; 6-1; 202 Maryland 20 Kevin Byard; 5-1; 1217 Middle Tennessee 16 Jeremy Cash; 6-2; 210 Duke I wasn't a big fan at first, but I'm coming around on Darian Thompson. He's got some work to do in terms of giving up his cushion too quickly when forced to cover the slot, but he's got prototype size and is very versatile. Also, I like that he sticks his nose in the muck in run support. The rest of this crop doesn't thrill me, especially Killebrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I wasn't a big fan at first, but I'm coming around on Darian Thompson. He's got some work to do in terms of giving up his cushion too quickly when forced to cover the slot, but he's got prototype size and is very versatile. Also, I like that he sticks his nose in the muck in run support. The rest of this crop doesn't thrill me, especially Killebrew. What is your opinion of Su'a Cravens? Where would he line up in Rex's defense? I see him projected as an ILB in a 3-4. Could he be an in the box safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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