#34fan Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) 'Quon Treadwell can't run a route. -Period. He DOES have tremendoust physical ability and a knack for getting open... But this type of raw talent evaporates at the next level... We need a BIG guy that can start in September... For my money, It's Reggie Diggs WR, Richmond.... 6'4" 200lbs of mismatch for smaller defenders.... Not blazingly fast, but Intelligent, and coachable.... For his level, a decent route runner.... He'll do well around guys like Salas, Watkins, and Woods.... That's right, I said SALAS.... Hogan is a great guy... Lotta heart.... Limited ability. -Buh-bye. Diggs is the perfect mid-round get....We need SIZE at WR.... Let's get it RIGHT this offseason, OBD! Edited January 6, 2016 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 WR is the MOST OVER RATED position on the field......especially when you only target them 5 times a game. here is a list of WR drafted highly (mostly 1st round) in the last two years. what do they ALL have in common ?......NONE (but 1) are in the playoffs. 2015 - Amari Cooper - Oak Davante Parker - Mia Nelson Agholor - Phi Breshard Perriman- Bal Devin Smith - Jets Dorial Green Beckham - Ten Sammy Watkins - Buf (used 2 first rounders for him) 2014- Sammy Watkins - Buf Mike Evans- TB Odell Beckham Jr - Giants Brandin Cooks - N.O. Kelvin Benjamin - Car (only wr in playoffs) Marquise Lee - Jax Jordan Mathews- Phi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Can Anyone give me an NFL's perspective on Pharoh Cooper I understand he is declaring? He was the best player on an awful South Carolina Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I'm hesitant to draft a WR. Watkins is the main target. Woods, if healthy, is good. Then we're just talking about small role players in a run-heavy scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Why draft a WR early when our defense is (1) aging, (2) losing starters from this past season, and (3) grossly underperformed to the point of being a liability? I don't want a WR's name called until day 3 of the draft, especially when we have a QB who has difficulty looking past his WR1. Edited January 6, 2016 by Saint Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Why draft a WR early when our defense is (1) aging, (2) losing starters from this past season, and (3) grossly underperformed to the point of being a liability? I don't want a WR's name called until day 3 of the draft, especially when we have a QB who has difficulty looking past his WR1. So we can pass the ball in the passing league and score points to win football games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 So we can pass the ball in the passing league and score points to win football games I'm not sure if you were trying to be sarcastic or sincere... But either way you nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) So we can pass the ball in the passing league and score points to win football gamesthank you I will add - remember this offense when Sammy was hurt? Anyone think he's magically never getting hurt again? If a WR is BPA on the Bills board (that's their board not kiper's board) when they draft, they should take him. In addition, trying to add a decent WR in FA is going to be a very tough sell with the number of times we passed last year and they would need too overpay. Not really in position to do that. I'm all for tweaking the D and adding players but IMO they need to focus first on continuing to improve the offense. I am in the minority that thinks the D will be fine regardless based on another year in scheme and getting some guys back from injury plus some inevitable player swaps to better fit the system. Edited January 7, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Watching teams like Arizona, Pitt, Denver, Bengals,(all wr's making plays) makes me salivate. I'm not sure if you were trying to be sarcastic or sincere... But either way you nailed it. A little bit of both, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Just submitted a piece on Mississippi State WR De'Runnya Wilson. Should be up some time today. Hell of a man crush on this guy. He's the total package and something the Bills really lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 RD4. Harvin's as good as gone, Woods hasn't shown it, so we still don't have a #2 WR--the high-pointing, tall, feature WRF (unless maybe it's Dez Lewis), as well as the Harvin role. These guys are listed as WRS in DraftTek, so we may need 2. Both carry the P3 designation. It is a buyer's market for WRs, with lots of WRs declaring and fewer teams needing them than most years. RD4 is my guess, it's a buyer's market in the draft on Wrs, and my 4 favorites, Travin Dural, Nelson Spruce, Sterling Shepard, and De'Runnyea Wilson might be available there. Should Laquon Treadwell be there at #17, I'd think twice ...before drafting a lineman. Day 3 gems: WRS BRALON ADDISON OREGON (pick 133 on our board, Bills have been to practices and/or games) WRF LEONTE CAROO RUTGERS (pick 149, Bills have been to practices and/or games) S-WRF MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA (240, likely moving up with his bowl game; no word on Bills scouts) WRF CHRIS BROWN NOTRE DAME (364) http://www.drafttek.com/2016-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-College-WRs-2016-Draft.asp Def need a strong WR2 whether in FA or the draft. Am I the only one who remembers Deonte Thompson? What happened to him? Why didnt we bring him back after our WRs got hurt? He made some clutch plays in pre-season. A lot more the Dez Lewis. I honestly think WR is a sneaky need for us. Sammy has turned out better than I hoped, but he really needs someone to stretch the field with. Unless we can get Harvin to take less money, I don't think we have that guy, and Woods doesn't have the same chemistry with Tyrod that he did with EJ. 1st or second round sounds just about right to me. Harvin is gone bro. Its tough cuz when he was mentally/phyisically healthy he was great but we gotta get over it. He aint coming back bc his hip wont or his mind isnt on football anymore. He's got a ring and prob enuff $$ in the bank to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 @nfldraftscout Clemson WR Mike Williams just said on Sportscenter that he has been cleared after suffering a neck injury Week 1. Will be back next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Can Anyone give me an NFL's perspective on Pharoh Cooper I understand he is declaring? He was the best player on an awful South Carolina Team. Highest YPC against AP-ranked teams. Also highest yards per carry as a runner of the Day2 guys. But..short. That hasn't bothered Whaley yet. Would love a tall guy in Day 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Highest YPC against AP-ranked teams. Also highest yards per carry as a runner of the Day2 guys. But..short. That hasn't bothered Whaley yet. Would love a tall guy in Day 3. Make that 2 tall guys...Hunter Henry, (day 1) and Reggie Diggs. (day 3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 How about drafting OJ Howard in first? He is a great blocker and did plenty of it at Alabama. You witnessed his speed and playmaking ability against a great Clemson defense. At 6'6 he can be our endzone threat, and would pair nicely with Clay. And he can help the run game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 @nfldraftscout Clemson WR Mike Williams just said on Sportscenter that he has been cleared after suffering a neck injury Week 1. Will be back next year. We have a long history with Mike Williamses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 You guys want a WR? Rashard Higgins. CO State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 You guys want a WR? Rashard Higgins. CO State. Funny enough, just saw this - https://twitter.com/MattStephens/status/687338398705553408 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Funny enough, just saw this - https://twitter.com/MattStephens/status/687338398705553408 What's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I honestly think WR is a sneaky need for us. Sammy has turned out better than I hoped, but he really needs someone to stretch the field with. Unless we can get Harvin to take less money, I don't think we have that guy, and Woods doesn't have the same chemistry with Tyrod that he did with EJ. 1st or second round sounds just about right to me. The big deal with Woods was his groin injury. I'm surprised the Bills haven't heard from the NFL on this. There were several injuries that came out this season that didn't appear to be reported on the weekly injury report. I expect Woods to bounce back next year, especially as he gets closer to contract time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 The big deal with Woods was his groin injury. I'm surprised the Bills haven't heard from the NFL on this. There were several injuries that came out this season that didn't appear to be reported on the weekly injury report. I expect Woods to bounce back next year, especially as he gets closer to contract time. Bounce back to average? I think we have seen what Woods has to offer, and it's nothing special. He occasionally makes a nice play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 How about drafting OJ Howard in first? He is a great blocker and did plenty of it at Alabama. You witnessed his speed and playmaking ability against a great Clemson defense. At 6'6 he can be our endzone threat, and would pair nicely with Clay. And he can help the run game I think he's gone within the first twelve picks.... Too much to hope for.... I'd probably wet myself if we pulled the trigger on that Kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 @NFL_CFB Colorado State WR Rashard Higgins announces #NFLDraft intentions --> http://bit.ly/21g1LIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 @NFL_CFB Colorado State WR Rashard Higgins announces #NFLDraft intentions --> http://bit.ly/21g1LIR There you go. Solid option to compete for that #2 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 i would love Mike Williams WR Clemson 6/4 220. If he checks out medically i would definitely consider him in the 2nd or 3rd round. this dude is a stud hopefully he declares. I also love Tyler Boyd from Pitt I'm with you. That is what I came to this thread to say. How far is he predicted to fall because of the injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'm with you. That is what I came to this thread to say. How far is he predicted to fall because of the injury? he is returning to Clemson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 he is returning to Clemson Ahh ok. Is he a Junior? My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Ahh ok. Is he a Junior? My mistake. he must be ... Either that or he obtained a medical redshirt. Can't remember how early in the season he got hurt. But he announced he's coming back. Clemson offense will be soooo good. They were missing top 2 WRs in playoffs, both will be back, plus their RB is coming back. Edited January 15, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 he must be ... Either that or he obtained a medical redshirt. Can't remember how early in the season he got hurt. But he announced he's coming back. Clemson offense will be soooo good. They were missing top 2 WRs in playoffs, both will be back, plus their RB is coming back. It was Week 1 against Wofford. He is a junior and I believe he still could apply for a medical redshirt depending on his recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 It was Week 1 against Wofford. He is a junior and I believe he still could apply for a medical redshirt depending on his recovery. yep he probably did then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Anyone like this guy ? Wouldn't mind seeing him as our 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 OJ Howard returning to school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Anyone like this guy ? Wouldn't mind seeing him as our 2nd round pick. absolutely, he's high on my list at WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 OJ Howard returning to schoolHe sure is!!!!!!! :) https://www.seccountry.com/alabama/alabama-te-o-j-howard-joins-teammates-on-roadto17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 This is a bad draft for TEs. Glad we have Clay. Henry will probably go in the second and then I think it is everyone else in third or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 This is a bad draft for TEs. Glad we have Clay. Henry will probably go in the second and then I think it is everyone else in third or later. I actually like Tyler Higbee from Western Kentucky in that early Day 3 range. Good hands, decent athlete for 6' 6", 250, can attack down the seam, willing blocker but needs refinement. WKU was 112th in the nation in run plays per game so part of the blocking stuff is a smaller than average exposure to it. Experience inline, flexed in the slot and at H-Back. Doughty's safety valve this year. Would make for a decent #2 option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 RD4. Harvin's as good as gone, Woods hasn't shown it, so we still don't have a #2 WR--the high-pointing, tall, feature WRF (unless maybe it's Dez Lewis), as well as the Harvin role. These guys are listed as WRS in DraftTek, so we may need 2. Both carry the P3 designation. It is a buyer's market for WRs, with lots of WRs declaring and fewer teams needing them than most years. RD4 is my guess, it's a buyer's market in the draft on Wrs, and my 4 favorites, Travin Dural, Nelson Spruce, Sterling Shepard, and De'Runnyea Wilson might be available there. Should Laquon Treadwell be there at #17, I'd think twice ...before drafting a lineman. Day 3 gems: WRS BRALON ADDISON OREGON (pick 133 on our board, Bills have been to practices and/or games) WRF LEONTE CAROO RUTGERS (pick 149, Bills have been to practices and/or games) S-WRF MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA (240, likely moving up with his bowl game; no word on Bills scouts) WRF CHRIS BROWN NOTRE DAME (364) http://www.drafttek.com/2016-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-College-WRs-2016-Draft.asp assuming Cordy and Cogs are signed, if treadwell is there, gotta think he's the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The Bills' return game (both punts and KOs) was awful this year. It would make a lot of sense to draft a WR who can do one or both--as well as catch passes, of course. That's another reason I would love to see them draft Bralon Addison of Oregon. He is an excellent return man, especially on punts (3 PRs for touchdowns in last two seasons, and an average of around 13 per return), and a highly productive WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The Bills' return game (both punts and KOs) was awful this year. It would make a lot of sense to draft a WR who can do one or both--as well as catch passes, of course. That's another reason I would love to see them draft Bralon Addison of Oregon. He is an excellent return man, especially on punts (3 PRs for touchdowns in last two seasons, and an average of around 13 per return), and a highly productive WR. Good point. If they get the Special Teams up into the top half of the league, it would add a couple wins to the record, me thinks. As far as drafting another TE, they just drafted a guy many here (maybe even some of the same guys that now want them to draft another TE?) were so excited about coming into the draft, Nick O'Leary. He has sucked. But considering they have Clay, I think O'Leary should be given a little time to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 assuming Cordy and Cogs are signed, if treadwell is there, gotta think he's the pick. I doubt he's there, but I would hope he's the pick if he's there. While I really prefer not to draft a WR wth out 1st or 2nd pick, he's the guy that makes sense. While he doesn't have the speed, he could develop into the best blocking WR ever. In our scheme, that matters. If he can take out the outside defender 90% of the time on outside runs, advantage us. Then add in his receiving skills and I think he's a perfect fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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