Big Blitz Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) Browns coach Mike Pettine said Wednesday that he would not include Russell Wilson in the top tier of NFL quarterbacks. "Would you put him there with the guys that can transcend their supporting cast?" Pettine asked rhetorically. "The Bradys, whether it's Aaron Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, the ones that you would consider the two, three, four elite guys? No. But he's certainly played himself into that next tier." Pettine indicated he believes Wilson's success is a "function" of Wilson's supporting cast -- a supporting cast that this year has included one of the NFL's worst offensive lines, the loss of Jimmy Graham to a torn patellar tendon, an injury-decimated running game, and no prototype No. 1 receiver. "He plays at a high level, he's very productive and they win," Pettine continued. "Now a lot of that I think is a function, too, is he's the perfect quarterback for what they do. To me it goes both ways." http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14381646/cleveland-browns-mike-pettine-consider-russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-top-tier-quarterback I immediately put Wilson in the Fan Duel lineup. Wilson is one of my favorite players in the game. I want Bevell here (and did back in January as choice #1) doing with Tyrod what he's done out there. But I guess I'll live with the excuse machine. Edited December 17, 2015 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBBullsfan Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Browns coach Mike Pettine said Wednesday that he would not include Russell Wilson in the top tier of NFL quarterbacks. "Would you put him there with the guys that can transcend their supporting cast?" Pettine asked rhetorically. "The Bradys, whether it's Aaron Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, the ones that you would consider the two, three, four elite guys? No. But he's certainly played himself into that next tier." Pettine indicated he believes Wilson's success is a "function" of Wilson's supporting cast -- a supporting cast that this year has included one of the NFL's worst offensive lines, the loss of Jimmy Graham to a torn patellar tendon, an injury-decimated running game, and no prototype No. 1 receiver. "He plays at a high level, he's very productive and they win," Pettine continued. "Now a lot of that I think is a function, too, is he's the perfect quarterback for what they do. To me it goes both ways." http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14381646/cleveland-browns-mike-pettine-consider-russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-top-tier-quarterback I immediately put Wilson in the Dan Duel lineup. Wilson is one of my favorite players in the game. I want Bevell here (and did back in January as choice #1) doing with Tyrod what he's done out there. But I guess I'll live with the excuse machine. What is Dan Duel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 Oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Pettine is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Pettine is wrong. And foolish to open his mouth on the topic. Nothing to be gained, much to potentially lose. No reason to burn any bridges. Even one's you have yet to cross. (Except the bridge to Crossmanville, that should be isolated.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Its ok, I doubt Wilson would put Pettine in the top tier of anything either........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Wilson in any other year would be a favorite for MVP...but he's somehow not Elite? Lol. Pettine is an idiot. I don't get why Wilson doesn't get the credit he deserves...led the team to a SB win in his 2nd year, got them within a play of a repeat. He's had one of the greatest, and arguably the greatest, statistical start of any QB in NFL history in just about every relevant passing category. He carries a team with marginal offensive talent around him. He took Lynch from a career 3.9 YPC RB to a 4.6 YPC RB by opening up the offense. They average 5 more wins per season with him then they did before him. The D isn't what it was, Graham is out, the OL is terrible, his RB is out, yet he's tearing everyone single team up in his path and carrying that team into the playoffs literally on his back. Again, if not for a year that has 4 very worth and legitimate MVP candidates, he would be a favorite more often than not right now for MVP. But its Cam right now, his team is undefeated, he's lost his weapons and making Ted Ginn Jr look credible despite all the balls he drops. Then there is Carson and Brady firmly in the conversation with Wilson. On a side note, if Big Ben didn't get hurt, I would suspect that Antonio Brown and Big Ben both would have had a case by seasons end...but those missed games by Big Ben ended both their shots to be in the years end conversation. This has been a crazy year with huge seasons from many players...but its Cams to lose at this point. Wilson, deservedly is right behind him along side Carson and Brady though. I would rank them Cam, Wilson, Carson, Brady right now. The last few weeks could see that stuffle a little, but I still think Cam deservedly wins it this year. Wilson however isnt far behind and would be the front runner most years with what he's doing for Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 in a game where your defense can't stop the other team, and you have no running game Russel Wilson is not the type of guy to carry a club throwing it damn near every down. Love his game but that's not him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 in a game where your defense can't stop the other team, and you have no running game Russel Wilson is not the type of guy to carry a club throwing it damn near every down. Love his game but that's not him Except thats exactly what he's doing now...the D isn't making the stops, the run game has struggled this year for consistency and has lots of injuries. He's literally carrying that team on his back using his arm. Its pretty impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 That's why he's going to be fired at the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 That's why he's going to be fired at the end of the season Well, that may be on the long list...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) Well, that may be on the long list......lol. Yeah, that's not why. He has lost 13 of his last 16. Edited December 17, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Browns coach Mike Pettine said Wednesday that he would not include Russell Wilson in the top tier of NFL quarterbacks. "Would you put him there with the guys that can transcend their supporting cast?" Pettine asked rhetorically. "The Bradys, whether it's Aaron Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, the ones that you would consider the two, three, four elite guys? No. But he's certainly played himself into that next tier." Pettine indicated he believes Wilson's success is a "function" of Wilson's supporting cast -- a supporting cast that this year has included one of the NFL's worst offensive lines, the loss of Jimmy Graham to a torn patellar tendon, an injury-decimated running game, and no prototype No. 1 receiver. "He plays at a high level, he's very productive and they win," Pettine continued. "Now a lot of that I think is a function, too, is he's the perfect quarterback for what they do. To me it goes both ways." http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14381646/cleveland-browns-mike-pettine-consider-russell-wilson-seattle-seahawks-top-tier-quarterback I immediately put Wilson in the Fan Duel lineup. Wilson is one of my favorite players in the game. I want Bevell here (and did back in January as choice #1) doing with Tyrod what he's done out there. But I guess I'll live with the excuse machine. Everyone has a woodie for who is at the tip of the spear- please let the madness end. Also, last I checked the kids got a SB ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Wilson's really good. I'd love to have Pettine back as Rex's DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 He said he's in that group from like 5-10 in the league... That seems incredibly reasonable, regardless of the word you use for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) He's right Do any of those guys end a super bowl like this? Edited December 17, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 He said he's in that group from like 5-10 in the league... That seems incredibly reasonable, regardless of the word you use for him. Agreed. I make Pettine right too. Wilson has really played well the last 4 or 5 weeks but he isn't yet in the Brady, Rodgers Big Ben class... he is getting closer but he isn't there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Russell Wilson has always been underestimated. The Seahawks model has been to put most of their money in Defence. Their success with a low cost offense has been due to in large part to Wilson protecting the ball and making many plays out of broken play situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Russell Wilson has always been underestimated. The Seahawks model has been to put most of their money in Defence. Their success with a low cost offense has been due to in large part to Wilson protecting the ball and making many plays out of broken play situations. He is only being underestimated here if you think he is as good as Brady, Rodgers or Big Ben. Wilson is a darn good Quarterback, he is still maturing and improving but he is not in that class for me at this stage. Doesn't mean he can't end up there. His greatest strength is undoubtedly his decision making which is exceptional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Petting is right—just not NFL politically correct. Wilson is not consistent enough at this point. He is very good, but I would agree, not at the level of the other four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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