Virgil Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Whether you believe he is our Franchise guy or not, he is good enough to win games for us and doesn't make drafting a QB in the first round every year a priority. I think I've seen progression from him most weeks. His decisions to throw deep and not run today on 3rd down was off to me, but it wasn't the terrible crap we've dealt with in years past. Speaking of which, I completely believe he's the best QB we've had since Kelly. In any case, whether you love him or can put up with him, I'm just tired of seeing the fighting over how good he is. He's good enough. Agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I am on board with that.....def a TT fan and still think a QB should be drafted....just not in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Agree. Also believe if the Bills really believe in a QB in the 2016 draft and he falls to the Bills they should draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UBBullsfan Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 NO, no, no, no, no. 16 years and counting. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) I do. But - the Bills need to draft a QB this year to replace EJ as a developmental QB and also sign a vet backup QB. Edited December 13, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 He has shown more than I think anyone could have reasonably expected. Need to see progress next year though. You draft a viable QB every chance you get, regardless of the round or year. If you believe in him, take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 He has shown more than I think anyone could have reasonably expected. Need to see progress next year though. You draft a viable QB every chance you get, regardless of the round or year. If you believe in him, take him. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I like him a lot, but there's still 3 more games to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) All of Tyrods faults were on full display today. He is good at hitting the deep ball but take that away and he will struggle. He can't beat teams by picking them apart with short and intermediate passes especially to the middle of the field which is always evident on 3rd down. Edited December 13, 2015 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 All of Tyrods faults were on full display today. He is good at hitting the deep ball but take that away and he will struggle. Tyrod can't beat teams by picking them apart with short and intermediate passes especially to the middle of the field which is always evident on 3rd down. Except none of that is true...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 All of Tyrods faults were on full display today. He is good at hitting the deep ball but take that away and he will struggle. Tyrod can't beat teams by picking them apart with short and intermediate passes especially to the middle of the field which is always evident on 3rd down.You mean like holding penalties and false starts? Bad Tyrod, bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Except none of that is true...... Nice comment without anything to back it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Whether you believe he is our Franchise guy or not, he is good enough to win games for us and doesn't make drafting a QB in the first round every year a priority. I think I've seen progression from him most weeks. His decisions to throw deep and not run today on 3rd down was off to me, but it wasn't the terrible crap we've dealt with in years past. Speaking of which, I completely believe he's the best QB we've had since Kelly. In any case, whether you love him or can put up with him, I'm just tired of seeing the fighting over how good he is. He's good enough. Agree? Agreed. I like him as our QB. Yes there's room for improvement, but he has a great upside, and he's shown us the right choice was made to start him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 You mean like holding penalties and false starts? Bad Tyrod, bad. Did I say Tyrod was the only reason they lost today or that all of his faults were on display today? Please try and comprehend what is being said before feeling the need to comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Nice comment without anything to back it up I dont need to....anybody can watch the game and know that your line is BS and Not just this game...because a QBs play should be taken as a whole Edited December 13, 2015 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 NO, no, no, no, no. 16 years and counting. No. So, you're logic is based upon any qb that doesn't get us to the playoffs is bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Tyrod is the best Bills QB in a long time. That said, he is not a long term solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) I remember him hitting Shady over the middle on 3rd down for a 1st down. I thought Tyrod has done a pretty good job this year so far. He's a first year starter, and as a back-up in Baltimore behind a QB who seldom was hurt, Tyrod probably didn't get many practice reps the past 4 years. He's not a franchise guy yet, but he's better than Fitz was for us, and everybody that has preceded him up to Flutie. Edited December 14, 2015 by WotAGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 It's a shame the D hasn't performed up to expectations. This would be a 8-5 or 9-4 team at WORST right now if they had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I do. But - the Bills need to draft a QB this year to replace EJ as a developmental QB and also sign a vet backup QB. Can we all agree that EJ is gone this off-season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 All of Tyrods faults were on full display today. He is good at hitting the deep ball but take that away and he will struggle. He can't beat teams by picking them apart with short and intermediate passes especially to the middle of the field which is always evident on 3rd down. I remember him hitting Shady over the middle on 3rd down for a 1st down. I thought Tyrod has done a pretty good job this year so far. He's a first year starter, and as a back-up in Baltimore behind a QB who seldom was hurt, Tyrod probably didn't get many practice reps the past 4 years. He's not a franchise guy yet, but he's better than Fitz was for us, and everybody that has preceded him up to Flutie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I dont need to....anybody can watch the game and know that your line is BS and Not just this game...because a QBs play should be taken as a whole Yeah bc I haven't said the same things about Tyrod all year Everything is down the field, barely anything in the short and intermediate range and even less over the middle which as I said is a big reason why this offense struggles on third down. Anyone watching this or any other game can see this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Did I say Tyrod was the only reason they lost today or that all of his faults were on display today? Please try and comprehend what is being said before feeling the need to comment Well no...and yes. You keep saying he's not good enough but he is never the reason we lose. In fact he's usually the only one playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Can we all agree that EJ is gone this off-season? I doubt it...they have a cap savings of 0 by cutting him. Then they have to pay extra for his replacement on top of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Can we all agree that EJ is gone this off-season? EJ got on the field today for some dumb reason Edited December 14, 2015 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Yeah bc I haven't said the same things about Tyrod all year Everything is down the field, barely anything in the short and intermediate range and even less over the middle which as I said is a big reason why this offense struggles on third down. Anyone watching this or any other game can see this Then you clearly didn't watch the preseason or the season opener. That's all he did. And yet everyone was complaining about not getting the ball to Sammy. Now, it's deep shot central. Need to find a healthy balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 No one's agreeing with that. I'm amazed the board agrees on how to spell his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Yeah bc I haven't said the same things about Tyrod all year Everything is down the field, barely anything in the short and intermediate range and even less over the middle which as I said is a big reason why this offense struggles on third down. Anyone watching this or any other game can see this Ha ha, now we throw too far. I remember when the problem with our QBs was always they throw short. So I guess the problem is always what you aren't doing. Edited December 14, 2015 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Yeah bc I haven't said the same things about Tyrod all year Everything is down the field, barely anything in the short and intermediate range and even less over the middle which as I said is a big reason why this offense struggles on third down. Anyone watching this or any other game can see this Yeah except - He does throw short and that was evidenced by the screens today - In the last 3 games he HAS been throwing the middle of the field - How do you know all these play calls down the field are not just part of the game plan given to him by his OC Your arguement holds NO water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Well no...and yes. You keep saying he's not good enough but he is never the reason we lose. In fact he's usually the only one playing well. Tyrod def played a part in the loss today but obviously wasn't the only reason. Tyrod really struggled on third down today and made some poor decisions throwing deep balls when he could and should hv run for the first or found another receiver working underneath the deep route. Tyrod throws a great deep ball but he was forcing it today against a defense that was clearly trying to take it away and bc if that was leaving other parts of the field open which is usually the middle. The interception at the end was just horrible and was another forced deep ball by him. Edited December 14, 2015 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I doubt it...they have a cap savings of 0 by cutting him. Then they have to pay extra for his replacement on top of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 To answer your question, no this group of people can only agree on one thing. The Bills should always be in Buffalo. If the QB was Johnny Unitas and the coach Vince Lombardi this group would find fault. I like Taylor, once he figures out the middle of the field, and I think he will, he is going to be a problem for defenses. I think that if the right QB is there in the draft you take him. As much as I'm disappointed in Ryan, I believe he was instrumental in brining in Taylor, which means odds are if they had hired a different HC, the Bills would still have a very big QB problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Taylor is the man in Buffalo for now, and has great command in the huddle. Rarely makes throws INT's, and should get better with more experience. Its tough for fans to fathom but this kid only has 11 starts under his belt, and they expect him to instantly be all world. Anyone watching this game has to have seen how poorly this offensive line pass blocked when it mattered most. Miller at RG stinks, and Urbik is the better pass blocker. At times the offense telegraphed exactly what play they would run with Felton in the backfield. Incognito is a FA- Glenn is a FA- Miller stinks at RG-Henderson stinks at RT-Kounandjio stinks at RT. The Bills need a true #2 WR, and Woods doesn't always show up. This team has bigger issues then a QB right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 To answer your question, no this group of people can only agree on one thing. The Bills should always be in Buffalo. If the QB was Johnny Unitas and the coach Vince Lombardi this group would find fault. "Why do we have a dead QB and a dead coach? I am so done with this team..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Nice comment without anything to back it up Because it cant be backed up. Tyrod has hit some long balls. But when we go down 2 scores i watch thinking this game is over. Every time. I cant stand that feeling. There is nothing objectively that an refute the original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Tyrod def played a part in the loss today but obviously wasn't the only reason. Tyrod really struggled on third down today and made some poor decisions throwing deep balls when he could and should hv run for the first or found another receiver working underneath the deep route. Tyrod throws a great deep ball but he was forcing it today against a defense that was clearly trying to take it away and bc if that was leaving other parts of the field open which is usually the middle. The interception at the end was just horrible and was another forced deep ball by him. So a QB that ranks in the top 5 isn't good enough for you. So the answer is roll the dice on a college kid? Or sign a vet on the way down? Edited December 14, 2015 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Tyrod def played a part in the loss today but obviously wasn't the only reason. Tyrod really struggled on third down today and made some poor decisions throwing deep balls when he could and should hv run for the first or found another receiver working underneath the deep route. Tyrod throws a great deep ball but he was forcing it today against a defense that was clearly trying to take it away and bc if that was leaving other parts of the field open which is usually the middle. The interception at the end was just horrible and was another forced deep ball by him. You cannot have it both ways When Tyrod runs to much people B word that he isnt staying in the pocket and throwing from there to prove he can and stay healthy...... when he throws deep he should be running more In the end it all depends on whether it was successful or not.....the fact is this team had 15 penalties for over 100 yards.......scored 20 points....and their supposidly great defense once again didnt live up to their billing. There is too much talent on this D to be losing games when our team scores 20 god damn points. Edited December 14, 2015 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacchus44 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I agree in that TT is better than what we have had in a while. Stick with him and get him some O-lineman help that can give him Tom Brady-like time to pick out his receiver to throw to (without penalties) and we will be much better next year. Well...that and after they fire their DC/defensive linemen and special teams coaches... AND...Rex starts holding players accountable for major eff-ups... Easy enough, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Can we all agree that EJ is gone this off-season? This post is about Tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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