Pete Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 http://espn.go.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/14275896/buffalo-bills-cb-ronald-darby-tops-mel-kiper-rookie-rankings-nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 FYI: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/181701-darby-and-gilmore-holding-it-down-on-the-corner/page-8?do=findComment&comment=3791894 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Cue the "Kiper doesn't know anything" posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Wow that's surprising. Amari Cooper and Todd Gurley are future Pro Bowlers and Jameis Winston is starting to look good. I think Mariota will be good too with a new coordinator (well Tannehill good so not great but good) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Wow that's surprising. Amari Cooper and Todd Gurley are future Pro Bowlers and Jameis Winston is starting to look good. I think Mariota will be good too with a new coordinator (well Tannehill good so not great but good) Darby's playing at an All-Pro level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Wait, I thought Whaley sucked because of the misses? I mean no GM has misses. He can't get credit for the hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Darby's playing at an All-Pro level. I think he's playing really well but the sample set is too small currently. Is he on a hot streak or is he just really good? Time will tell. He got burned twice on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I think he's playing really well but the sample set is too small currently. Is he on a hot streak or is he just really good? Time will tell. He got burned twice on Sunday Zack Martin was a 1st team All-Pro last season as a rookie. Why not Darby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) I think he's playing really well but the sample set is too small currently. Is he on a hot streak or is he just really good? Time will tell. He got burned twice on Sunday Huh? You don't get awarded All-Pro because you were good in the past. It's what have you done for me lately. So far this season, he's played at an All-Pro level. I doubt I could name more than 2 other CB's playing better. Edited December 3, 2015 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Cue the "Kiper doesn't know anything" posts. Kiper doesn't know anything except when he praises a Buffalo Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 He doesn't know anything. He gave the Bills the lowest draft grade for 2015, calling Darby a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 He doesn't know anything. He gave the Bills the lowest draft grade for 2015, calling Darby a reach. Well at least he was right on Jimmy Clausen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Wow that's surprising. Amari Cooper and Todd Gurley are future Pro Bowlers and Jameis Winston is starting to look good. I think Mariota will be good too with a new coordinator (well Tannehill good so not great but good) FYI Darby is likely a Pro Bowler. (The craziest thing is that With Flacco, Manning, Brees, Luck all having bad years Tyrod could get an alternate Pro Bowl Nod after the Injuries and the Super Bowl QBs can't make it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Kiper doesn't know anything except when he praises a Buffalo Bill BF4E with the assist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 FYI Darby is likely a Pro Bowler. (The craziest thing is that With Flacco, Manning, Brees, Luck all having bad years Tyrod could get an alternate Pro Bowl Nod after the Injuries and the Super Bowl QBs can't make it) Fitzpatrick and Taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 He is absolutely correct...Darby has been phenomenal and might be in the discussion for best CB in the NFL, not best rookie CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Fitzpatrick and Taylor? Who ever wins week 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 You don't need Kiper to tell you that Darby is the best rookie so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Huh? You don't get awarded All-Pro because you were good in the past. It's what have you done for me lately. So far this season, he's played at an All-Pro level. I doubt I could name more than 2 other CB's playing better. The Denver tandem. Seriously though, he has been a pleasant surprise. Our defense would be so much better under another scheme and is hiding how well our CB's are playing. It's too bad. I'm glad we picked him in the second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Even Darby is surprised when they throw on him now, he's probably the ~ best CB in the league & leads in most stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) The Denver tandem. Seriously though, he has been a pleasant surprise. Our defense would be so much better under another scheme and is hiding how well our CB's are playing. It's too bad. I'm glad we picked him in the second round. the Denver CBs are considered the best in the league, but Talib is a knucklehead with his dirty play/penalties/suspension. Edited December 3, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Well at least he was right on Jimmy Clausen. It just goes to show how stupid immediate post-draft grades are. Kiper gives Bills the worst post-draft grade, then grades their first draft pick the best of all rookies.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 It just goes to show how stupid immediate post-draft grades are. Kiper gives Bills the worst post-draft grade, then grades their first draft pick the best of all rookies.... Well I think that says he's not afraid to admit his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Well I think that says he's not afraid to admit his mistakes. Really, who on here besides maybe Leroi didn't have a "wtf/face palm" moment when they called Darby's name? I had never even heard of him before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Really, who on here besides maybe Leroi didn't have a "wtf/face palm" moment when they called Darby's name? I had never even heard of him before. I had never heard of him before either, but after seeing his size/stats and bio, I wondered why he wasn't a 1st rounder. The Bills got a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Well I think that says he's not afraid to admit his mistakes. Not really. Maybe when he does a re-grade (as he often does) he'll have to admit it. This is not an admission. This is simply grading rookies at this point in time--how they actually have done in the NFL--with no mention of what he thought about them when drafted and graded. He also panned the Karlos Williams pick, though to be fair, he states his original grades are based on: The draft grades I hand out then are all about deciding which teams added the most overall talent based on my player ratings, how well the teams maneuvered for that talent and whether they hit those needs. He gave them a favorable rating for Miller--meeting a need and good value at the position drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Really, who on here besides maybe Leroi didn't have a "wtf/face palm" moment when they called Darby's name? I had never even heard of him before. Since I don't follow college, to me it is always Who's that guy? All I can say is the GM has brought in some decent rookies in the past few years. How much say the HC has ... ??? 2nd rd Darby, 5th rd Karlos Williams, 1st rd Sammy, 2nd Kiko, 1st rd Gilmore, 1st rd Dareus, 2nd rd Aaron Williams, imo have worked well. Not really. Maybe when he does a re-grade (as he often does) he'll have to admit it. This is not an admission. This is simply grading rookies at this point in time--how they actually have done in the NFL--with no mention of what he thought about them when drafted and graded. He also panned the Karlos Williams pick, though to be fair, he states his original grades are based on: He gave them a favorable rating for Miller--meeting a need and good value at the position drafted. I was trying to be sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 The next kiko? It's amazing how much he gets thrown at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUBSTER Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Kiper doesn't know anything except when he praises a Buffalo Bill +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Northern Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Darby is playing like a 1st round pick. Therefore we didn't need the #19 overall selection... because Darby playing well means there are no other areas of need on this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 He is absolutely correct...Darby has been phenomenal and might be in the discussion for best CB in the NFL, not best rookie CB Maybe he should start getting fitted for his gold jacket in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) Wait, I thought Whaley sucked because of the misses? I mean no GM has misses. He can't get credit for the hits. The ironic thing is I have been one of the most ardent Whaley detractors but I was one of the only people on this board supporting him for the Darby pick when everyone went nuts after his selection. Just goes to show I don't have biases, it's all about football and being knowledgeable about it. Edited December 5, 2015 by BuffaloBillsForever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 FYI Darby is likely a Pro Bowler. (The craziest thing is that With Flacco, Manning, Brees, Luck all having bad years Tyrod could get an alternate Pro Bowl Nod after the Injuries and the Super Bowl QBs can't make it) Called It! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Called It! Doesn't count. Has to be in a Tyrod thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Doesn't count. Has to be in a Tyrod thread. It sure as **** counts. If a ball bounces off of two defenders and a teammate's hands and then is caught, it still counts as a reception. If the prediction is in an off topic thread it still counts! Still can't believe Darby didn't get the DB nod over Grimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Add Karlos to the list as well, por favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 It sure as **** counts. If a ball bounces off of two defenders and a teammate's hands and then is caught, it still counts as a reception. If the prediction is in an off topic thread it still counts! Still can't believe Darby didn't get the DB nod over Grimes. Sorry, I have already ruled it doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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