K-Apps Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) As much as I like the fact the Pegulas bought the team and are committed to keep the team in Buffalo. As owners I have not been impressed with them as owner. I know I know, they have only been owners for a year, but the biggest decision they have made so far was hiring Rex Ryan. The sheer fact that they were ones that hired him personally instead of allowing Whaley and the other football personnel do it is just the type of hand-on approach that a constant criticism of the Ralph Wilson era. Pegula made a similar mistake early in his Sabres tenure instead of letting go the Reiger/Ruff regime, he lets the stick around and the Sabres collapse and are now re-building. I'm not saying the Pegulas are bad owners, I'm just questioning their ability to trust their football personnel and empower them instead of stepping on their shoes and making executive decision without their input. Edited November 29, 2015 by K-Apps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 As much as I like the fact the Pegulas bought the team and are committed to keep the team in Buffalo. As owners I have not been impressed with them as owner. I know I know, they have only been owners for a year, but the biggest decision they have made so far was hiring Rex Ryan. The sheer fact that they were ones that hired him personally instead of allowing Whaley and the other football personnel do it is just the type of hand-on approach that a constant criticism of the Ralph Wilson era. Pegula made a similar mistake early in his Sabres tenure instead of letting go the Reiger/Ruff regime, he lets the stick around and the Sabres collapse and are now re-building. I'm not saying the Pegulas are bad owners, I'm just questioning their ability to trust their football personnel and empower them instead of stepping on their shoes and making executive decision without their input. Yeah Pegulas didn't throw the challenge flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Pegulas are making a lot of money. That's the only reason why they own the Sabres and the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Apps Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 Yeah Pegulas didn't throw the challenge flag. My overarching point that who hired Rex and did not do their due diligence in doing research on Rex Ryan as a head coach. I think that would be the Pegulas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Yeah Pegulas didn't throw the challenge flag. Hey now...It starts at the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Pegulas are making a lot of money. That's the only reason why they own the Sabres and the Bills. Congrats. This is the most uninformed statement I'll read today. Well done...again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Anytime your owners are involved with hiring anyone except for the executive VP in charge of football operations, it is a huge mistake. They shouldn't be involved with the interviewing or have any say in the hiring/firing of a GM/personnel guys/coaches. NONE. Edited November 29, 2015 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 My overarching point that who hired Rex and did not do their due diligence in doing research on Rex Ryan as a head coach. I think that would be the Pegulas True, but why would they make such an important decision without the benefit of advice from a wise head. I mean having heard of Rex Ryan just isn't reason enuf. 25 for 5 - are you kidding me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 the owners are fine it will take time for them to overhaul the team just like the Sabres ... so give it a few yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Apps Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 Anytime your owners are involved with hiring anyone except for the executive VP in charge of football operations, it is a huge mistake. They shouldn't be involved with the interviewing or have any say in the hiring/firing of a GM/personnel guys/coaches. NONE. Thank you that was my whole point. I blame that on inexperience, hopefully they understand that you must empower your football personnel to make decisions, now do some of the decision for them. Hopefully they get a President of Football Operations along with Whaley in the offseason moving forward and allow them to make the personnel moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Pegulas are making a lot of money. That's the only reason why they own the Sabres and the Bills. then they would have stayed in oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 As much as I like the fact the Pegulas bought the team and are committed to keep the team in Buffalo. As owners I have not been impressed with them as owner. I know I know, they have only been owners for a year, but the biggest decision they have made so far was hiring Rex Ryan. The sheer fact that they were ones that hired him personally instead of allowing Whaley and the other football personnel do it is just the type of hand-on approach that a constant criticism of the Ralph Wilson era. Pegula made a similar mistake early in his Sabres tenure instead of letting go the Reiger/Ruff regime, he lets the stick around and the Sabres collapse and are now re-building. I'm not saying the Pegulas are bad owners, I'm just questioning their ability to trust their football personnel and empower them instead of stepping on their shoes and making executive decision without their input. This is taking the narcissistic desire for instant gratification to a whole new level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Pegulas are making a lot of money. That's the only reason why they own the Sabres and the Bills. brilliant reasoning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 the owners are fine it will take time for them to overhaul the team just like the Sabres ... so give it a few yrs Oh great, another 3 year plan. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Apps Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 This is taking the narcissistic desire for instant gratification to a whole new level. No, it's seeing the one of the big problems with the Bills franchise in last 15 years perpetuating terribly, bad coaching hires particularly retreads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Pegulas needed a football czar (such as a Ron Wolf type) to help with the coaching search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Oh great, another 3 year plan. Can't wait. Rex is Ted Nolan, Whaley is Pat and then we get Josh Rosen from UCLA at QB ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Wow, I said this when they bought the team. History repeats itself. The good news is we may be looking at a quicker turn around then the Sabres, but I knew it would get worse before it got better. I was optimistic, but the Bills are done this year. Rex should get canned, but it won't happen. The Pegulas will keep him on board for one or two more years. They have to give him time to make the team "his". All Ryan has done was extend his Jets mess to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 No, it's seeing the one of the big problems with the Bills franchise in last 15 years perpetuating terribly, bad coaching hires particularly retreads. You're complaining about the performance over less than a season. Yes, it's a narcissistic need for instant gratification. Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) You, young man.. or young girl.. need to get a grip. 1. The only reason the Bills are in Bflo to make you upset is because of TP. 2. If you expect instant NFL winnings because of one season of changes... you are wrong. It's premature at this point to be raging at TP or RR. For context: Belicheck was 5-11 his first season with the Patsys. Edited November 29, 2015 by boater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 You, young man.. or young girl.. need to get a grip. 1. The only reason the Bills are in Bflo to make you upset is because of TP. 2. If you expect instant NFL winnings because of one season of changes... you are wrong. It's premature at this point to be raging at TP or RR. For context: Belicheck was 5-11 his first season with the Patsys. I agree on the Pegulas. Their honeymoon lasts as long as they would like...they own the team. I really liked Ryan when he was hired and he seems like a great guy in a lot of ways, but he was given a roster loaded with talent and he has done nothing with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I was afraid of this happening. Look how they ran the Sabres into the dirt, and they were a good team! This coaching staff is an F-ing joke! To ruin a great defense with pure arrogance is appalling, play calling is so junior high it's sickening, and don't even get me started on the douchebag coaching the special teams! F$%k Whaley, too~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I was afraid of this happening. Look how they ran the Sabres into the dirt, and they were a good team! This coaching staff is an F-ing joke! To ruin a great defense with pure arrogance is appalling, play calling is so junior high it's sickening, and don't even get me started on the douchebag coaching the special teams! F$%k Whaley, too~ The Sabres that are doing pretty good now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 The Sabres that are doing pretty good now?? They were not well run or well positioned when purchased. They are moving in the right direction now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 They were one of the leagues better teams, but we kept the arrogant POS Douchey Regier in charge, which was ludicrous! He nose dived the team, and it looked like he did it on purpose! They are far from where they were, and other than a couple players, are not even remotely close to competing for anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Apps Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 You, young man.. or young girl.. need to get a grip. 1. The only reason the Bills are in Bflo to make you upset is because of TP. 2. If you expect instant NFL winnings because of one season of changes... you are wrong. It's premature at this point to be raging at TP or RR. For context: Belicheck was 5-11 his first season with the Patsys. I said in my post that I'm glad the Pegulas are keeping the Bills in Buffalo. In fact, what is happening right now is what I'm expecting because I was against the Ryan hire from the start. Jets fans criticized him for not utilizing his challenges and terrible in-game adjustments and situation awareness and he has not improved on either aspect. He also took a good defense last year and made in worse particularly not using the D-Line when they were healthy to this potential. Rex is a not a good coach, let's not pretending at this point, we have nearly 5 seasons of evidence of that and Pegulas should've done their research on Rex Ryan before they hired him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiostyle Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Oh great, another 3 year plan. Can't wait. Will any of this include employment at Hooters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsel Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Rome was not built in one day or one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I said in my post that I'm glad the Pegulas are keeping the Bills in Buffalo. In fact, what is happening right now is what I'm expecting because I was against the Ryan hire from the start. Jets fans criticized him for not utilizing his challenges and terrible in-game adjustments and situation awareness and he has not improved on either aspect. He also took a good defense last year and made in worse particularly not using the D-Line when they were healthy to this potential. Rex is a not a good coach, let's not pretending at this point, we have nearly 5 seasons of evidence of that and Pegulas should've done their research on Rex Ryan before they hired him. Good Reply. Valid points. I just differ on the time-frame.. I suggest hiring or firing a HC or GM, needs to be done on more than one season of results. ...and I say that even though my A-- H--- hurts from today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 A long time ago, i said i was sick of Rex's mouth running and no results. I got flamed by Rex supporters. After today, if you still think Rex is the answer you need mental help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 A long time ago, i said i was sick of Rex's mouth running and no results. I got flamed by Rex supporters. After today, if you still think Rex is the answer you need mental help. Unfortunately Im proud to say that i called Rex a blowhard loser since day 1. Just go about your phocking business Rex instead of a Bills Truck, eating dog biscuits, putting on a Clemson helmet, giving players wristbands, calling out the Pats in week 2 etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmd07 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 5 year deal. Were stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 5 year deal. Were stuck. And likely 5 more years of no post season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Unfortunately Im proud to say that i called Rex a blowhard loser since day 1. Just go about your phocking business Rex instead of a Bills Truck, eating dog biscuits, putting on a Clemson helmet, giving players wristbands, calling out the Pats in week 2 etc.... I'll say it again.. for context.. Belichek went 5-11 his first season with the Pats, deposing RR at this point, would be stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 And likely 5 more years of no post season! Keep the sharp objects away from this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Congrats. This is the most uninformed statement I'll read today. Well done...again. Really? You don't think they are in it for the money? Seriously? Have you seen where Sabre ticket prices have gone while the on ice product is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Really? You don't think they are in it for the money? Seriously? Have you seen where Sabre ticket prices have gone while the on ice product is not good. Yes really. Terry could make another $1B with a wave of his hand, as could most of the NFL owners. These teams are his play toys. Owning natural gas rich lands is his money-maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'll say it again.. for context.. Belichek went 5-11 his first season with the Pats, deposing RR at this point, would be stupidity. Haha! Whatever man. You comparing Rex to Belicheat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 I'll say it again.. for context.. Belichek went 5-11 his first season with the Pats, deposing RR at this point, would be stupidity. Boater....but his D....that is what I am looking at WTF DID HE DO TO OUR DEFENSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 5 year deal. Were stuck. no such thing with coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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